Brainwahsing in the middleeast

[Steve]

the countires of eygpt syria and lebanon are briainwashed.

i remeber last year in history when an eygption kid said that they had won a war vrs isreal. and that thats what the eygption government is saying. but the hisotry teacher told him its not true .

the syrians think they also won the last war vrs isreal .. i wonder why isreal holds the golan hieghts then?

dont you think its sad that the governments are brainwahsing the people?

[kramer362]

I even see this in America. I love America but I grew up hearing we're the freest and best country in the world, but I'm aware not that isn't true. America's great but I wouldn't say our personal freedoms are the best in the world...

[Steve]

Originally Posted by kramer362

I even see this in America. I love America but I grew up hearing we're the freest and best country in the world, but I'm aware not that isn't true. America's great but I wouldn't say our personal freedoms are the best in the world...

im againts calling the united states america is funny and sad how you guys think you own the continent because i doubt if the other people there attacked you guys you could fend all .

and canada imo is more freer (is that a word) .

[Pseudojim]

The Vietnam war wasn't lost... it was a draw, remember? no? Well... it WAS... so THERE!

Oh, and universal health care is socialism, obama is a pinko commie who kills babies and wants to form death panels to gas your grandmas and grandpas.

At least that's what the fucking morons would have you believe. You people should have let the south secede.

Well Obama is a muslim an an marxist.
we all have a right to bear arms and there should not be gun control.
The war in Iraq has nothing to do with oil.
Saddam Hussain was secretly developing weapons of mass destruction.
Gays destroy the family and and gays brainwash children to become gay.
marriage should only be with a woman and man.
Thats what many foolish Americans believe and they get it from groups such as Focus on the Family and right wing neo con politicians.

[Steve]

Originally Posted by Pseudojim

The Vietnam war wasn't lost... it was a draw, remember? no? Well... it WAS... so THERE!

Oh, and universal health care is socialism, obama is a pinko commie who kills babies and wants to form death panels to gas your grandmas and grandpas.

At least that's what the fucking morons would have you believe. You people should have let the south secede.

the vietnam war was a loss the president (was it nixon i dont remember) made the treaty after sauffering countless losses in human life and after the americnas left the viet cong took over vietnam. it was a loss in all aspects such aswell as the feared domino effect came into effect afterwards

[Pseudojim]

Originally Posted by Steve

the vietnam war was a loss the president (was it nixon i dont remember) made the treaty after sauffering countless losses in human life and after the americnas left the viet cong took over vietnam. it was a loss in all aspects such aswell as the feared domino effect came into effect afterwards

yes, that's my point.

Uhm... Can I have a link to an article?
One person's opinion of a war doesn't represent a whole nation. While I will vehemently protest abusing the education system to teach children 'your values', I need some sort of objective evidence that they are actually being brainwashed. I know enough about the United States to say that their education system is absolute shit because of the whole 'anyone can be on the local school council and issues never rise above that local level allowing for indoctrination'.

So someone help me out, how does the education system work in Egypt? How does it work in Syria? In Lebanon?

And for goodness sake, try typing properly. Half of what was said in this thread made absolutely no sense. What does 'im againts calling the united states america is funny and sad how you guys think you own the continent because i doubt if the other people there attacked you guys you could fend all.' even mean? The lack of punctuation is disturbing.

[Just Adam]

come on really? its actually news to peopel that governments lie and indoctrinate people?

government will tell what it wantts to make it look good! its not gonna say we lost we suck at this... no! it will say we are teh best... usa is allways caught up on saying how great it is..no offence but whenever i see a US politicain on teh tv i keep hearing how great everything is all smiles and im just like ...no...just no. and i do love how tehy say vietnam wasent lost WE DIDNT RUN AWAY ! ...it was a tactical retreat were still thinking up a new strategy >.> i also love how there are still those that even though theyre healthcare is shot and peopel cant afford health care insurance they slag off other countrys namelly our nhs ... but hey i dont hold it against politicians..i just dont trust any of them.

but really people dont be naive here, it is wrong but since man could speak its manipulated and lied, its just part of our nature we need to succeed and thrive at any cost like a plauge stepping over anyone we have too ...or maybe that just me i dunno anywya this aint news ignorance and human nature is jsut breeding the next generation of mindless naive morons who are tomorrows workforce...back down the mines or getting iradiated in nuclear plants...its all good.

besides if they werent wrong we couldent be correct, if they were correct it would just be fact. so meh whatever

[olides84]

Question to most of the previous posters in this 'bash America' thread. Why do Aussies hate the US so much?

[ultrabluecheese]

I find it funny that the America-bashing comes from those who do not live in the United States.

[Pseudojim]

Originally Posted by olides84

Question to most of the previous posters in this 'bash America' thread. Why do Aussies hate the US so much?

I don't feel any hatred at all, don't mistake the target of my derision. I have a great amount of sympathy for the plight of the modern freethinking american. I never bashed america, i bashed the stupidity of the ignoramuses who tout such propaganda and don't understand what they're talking about. And let's not forget those that do things like turn up to town hall meetings with automatic rifles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUPMjC9mq5Y

those types.

[edit] oh, i suppose i did make a fairly insensitive generalisation about the south. That wasn't really called for, i know a lot of lovely southerners.

[Just Adam]

i did bash a bit but only as an example of goverments talking shite to the people... and frankly yhe ES government is jsut really good at talking crap :S infact i would say they are as good as teh labour party here saying things are ok when the ship has sunk..


see ill bitch about my people as easilly as anyones..actually ill bitch about our useless exscuse for a goverment much more easilly as i expect alot more of them..

[Shevanel]

Originally Posted by Numfarh

Uhm... Can I have a link to an article?
One person's opinion of a war doesn't represent a whole nation. While I will vehemently protest abusing the education system to teach children 'your values', I need some sort of objective evidence that they are actually being brainwashed. I know enough about the United States to say that their education system is absolute shit because of the whole 'anyone can be on the local school council and issues never rise above that local level allowing for indoctrination'.

So someone help me out, how does the education system work in Egypt? How does it work in Syria? In Lebanon?

And for goodness sake, try typing properly. Half of what was said in this thread made absolutely no sense. What does 'im againts calling the united states america is funny and sad how you guys think you own the continent because i doubt if the other people there attacked you guys you could fend all.' even mean? The lack of punctuation is disturbing.

Corina just owned everyone. I think if you don't know what you're talking about, you really shouldn't talk at all. But hey, that's just my opinion (not to Corina, of course, just in general )

[Just Adam]

Originally Posted by SurferDude420

Corina just owned everyone. I think if you don't know what you're talking about, you really shouldn't talk at all. But hey, that's just my opinion (not to Corina, of course, just in general )

it aint hard to know what your talking about in these sorts of threads... unless what you type just make no sense, i agree that last quoted line above did have me confused.. :S but oh well.

i think anyone can say they know of this sort of activity when the govt says thigns are fine when tehy arent thats this when tehy say somthign happened in such a way but you know it didnt by what ever means etc etc..

mind you if i want to see the political lies shot down i just watch andrew neil and david dimbleby lay into them...great fun.

[ultrabluecheese]

I never bashed america, i bashed the stupidity of the ignoramuses who tout such propaganda and don't understand what they're talking about.

You say you didn't bash the United States, but what you posted says differently.

Case in point:

The Vietnam war wasn't lost... it was a draw, remember? no? Well... it WAS... so THERE!

Oh, and universal health care is socialism, obama is a pinko commie who kills babies and wants to form death panels to gas your grandmas and grandpas.

At least that's what the fucking morons would have you believe. You people should have let the south secede.

Looks like America-bashing to me. You could have easily stayed on-topic with the Middle East "brainwashing" their students. Instead, you chose to continue with the subject of the US.

[Just Adam]

Originally Posted by ultrabluecheese

You say you didn't bash the United States, but what you posted says differently.

Case in point:

Looks like America-bashing to me. You could have easily stayed on-topic with the Middle East "brainwashing" their students. Instead, you chose to continue with the subject of the US.

the problem is some places in teh east not mentioning names.. they dont just lie ans misslead the people that would still encourage freewill...so to mention them is off topic but seeing as its heading tehre why not...alot of places are very un-democratic and more or less dictatorships where you have to as your told, told what is fact, told what is truth and what is lie, and told everything about your life...

i use the western example as it is democratic with free will but its easier to distinguish when the govts usa nad uk try to manipulate the public...

im jsut explainging this so i dont get shot at by anyone here... verbally of course physically i would hope not.

No. Seriously.
What the frick is this thread about? I do not understand. No one seems to be talking about the same thing. Are we debating over whether or not indoctrination happens? Are we bashing the U.S.A? Are we neglecting to take a minute to reread what we typed and correct any mistakes that we may have made so as to make it legible?

I'm so beyond confused right now.

[Pseudojim]

Originally Posted by ultrabluecheese

You say you didn't bash the United States, but what you posted says differently.

Case in point:

Looks like America-bashing to me. You could have easily stayed on-topic with the Middle East "brainwashing" their students. Instead, you chose to continue with the subject of the US.

Firstly, i've already addressed this accusation, and i thought i made my position quite clear. A few posts up. "I never bashed america, i bashed the stupidity of the ignoramuses who tout such propaganda and don't understand what they're talking about." For example, people who go on and on about how the US won the vietnam war, about how obama is this, that or the other ridiculous slander. The south secession afterthought was a tongue-in-cheek stab at the stereotypical southern redneck hillbilly idiot, and the only part of that post i would remove to make it more on the whole representative of the point i was making.

Secondly, i was saying this in agreeing reply with the poster who said "I even see this in America. I love America but I grew up hearing we're the freest and best country in the world", and expanded on his point that if you're going to look outward at this issue, you may as well look everywhere. It's global, and FAR from contained within the middle east. I could use north korea as another poignant example if that would make you feel more comfortable. Or australia for that matter, you don't have to look too far back to see horrendous government lies attempting to portray potential illegal immigrants as baby-killing demons (the children overboard scandal). There is no need to ruffle your feathers just because i chose the country of your origin as my first target. I'm an equal-opportunity realist.

Originally Posted by Numfarh

No. Seriously.
What the frick is this thread about? I do not understand. No one seems to be talking about the same thing. Are we debating over whether or not indoctrination happens? Are we bashing the U.S.A? Are we neglecting to take a minute to reread what we typed and correct any mistakes that we may have made so as to make it legible?

I'm so beyond confused right now.

Yeah it's been a bit convoluted hasn't it?

[Steve]

the reason what people bask the unites states (im not saying america you guy are not america) is because the us likes to butt in to every situation there is. all i need the usa to do is help fund equipment to isreal so they can destroy the stupid terroists.

my cousin surivved 2 times when his tank got bombed , but his crew dided

the thing is numfrah ill try to find you some articles about the brainwahsing.
but i can tell you one thing all i here in school is the arabs complaining how isreal invaded at 1948 and took over palestinian terroitory..

but it was the opposite in 1948 15 of may the british left and on the same days FIVE not 1 FIVE arabs countirs launched war on isreal .. just to get humilaited

http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk...e_1948_war.htm
i can find more if thats not enought.

um im to lazy to find the info on the brainwashing was in my study book said the eypgts radio was telling the community it was winning the war while eygpt were actully being pulled back