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Old 9th Oct 2009, 02:29 AM   #1
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Default Obama wins Nobel Peace Prize!!

I just can't believe it! Just saw it on the news.. I'm also thinking that he doesn't deserve it. The man has been in office for what, nine months? What has he done?? So many people in this world who are actually doing something (some at the risk of their own lives!) to free people, are they just got laughed at, in my opinion. People that would need the attention to their projects or cause, not to mention the money that comes with the prize.

The Nobel Prize Committee has been grilled by the journalists in Oslo (Norway) for their reasons to give Obama the prize. The man was drowning on live tv, struggling to say something that made sense. He defended the choice by saying that people like Gorbachev or Willy Brandt (Chanceler of Germany back in the 1970's) also got the prize. Ok, BUT both did something to get/earn the prize! Gorbachev helped the Iron Curtain to come down, and Brandt made efforts to connect with DDR (German Democratic Republic).

I like Obama, but i don't think he deserves this.
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yeah i could not believe it, what the hell as he done? i mean there are people like morgan tvsangari in zambawai that face death to bring peace and he is forgotten and people in iraq and iran to bring demoractic life and they are recognised and this guy who hasnt done anything gets the biggest award for peace, its a joke
It doesnt matter what peoples politics are or if people are black or white they should see that this has been an award that has been so wrongly placed
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i also think he has done nothing worthy of receiving it
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Default Re: Obama wins Nobel Peace Prize!!

Me too.
But he's not the first controversial Nobel Peace Prize recipient by any means...
I mean compared to people like Yasser Arafat and Menachem Begin, Obama is a very worthy recipient of the prize.
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so far all Obama has done is become president of the USA, and not yet gone to war.
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he spends to much time buidling his legacy as teh president who rid the world of nuclear weapons... spreading his moral superiority across teh world...when he doesent protect his peoplesw human rights and libertys... he kept a fraction of his promises... all teh crap he said about doma and dadt resulted in nothing...

he is give teh nobel peace prize for diplomatic work but he hasent done any he trys with north korea and iran and tehy ignore him he doesent have teh skill to coonect like bill clinton had despite his other faults... obama doesent do diplomatic work he hasent needed to all the other un friendly antion leaders throw themselves at him like whores on puppet strings...

ive lost faith in him i was counting on him to so what he promised and pioneer lgbt rights in teh hope that the uk would take notice and follow suit...but he has failed as far as im concerned.
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The man has been in office for what, nine months?
It gets even weirder if you consider that the submissions are entered at 1st of februari. So Obama was in office a full 11 days before he got nominated

I can see how striving for diplomatic solutions and de-escalation in international tensions is a good thing, but really, if they are dead-set on giving it to Obama while he's still in office, they had a few years to do it!

Well, at least they gave it to a guy that has the right intentions. The nobel comittee has made far stranger choices in the past... And perhaps they felt the prize needed some spotlight now, which it wouldn't have gotten if they had awarded some obcure third-world activist.
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he spends to much time buidling his legacy as teh president who rid the world of nuclear weapons... spreading his moral superiority across teh world...when he doesent protect his peoplesw human rights and libertys... he kept a fraction of his promises... all teh crap he said about doma and dadt resulted in nothing...

he is give teh nobel peace prize for diplomatic work but he hasent done any he trys with north korea and iran and tehy ignore him he doesent have teh skill to coonect like bill clinton had despite his other faults... obama doesent do diplomatic work he hasent needed to all the other un friendly antion leaders throw themselves at him like whores on puppet strings...

ive lost faith in him i was counting on him to so what he promised and pioneer lgbt rights in teh hope that the uk would take notice and follow suit...but he has failed as far as im concerned.
Well, it's already been said...he's been president for about nine months.

As for keeping a fraction of his promises, I think you'll find that out of all the promises he's actually managed to act on yet, he was able to keep considerably more of them than the ones he couldn't keep. I think what you meant to say was, he's only ACTED ON a fraction of his promises....because he's only been president for about nine months. <_<

I honestly think people are being a bit harsh, in my opinion he was left with THE world's biggest mess to clear up, and so far he really isn't doing badly. Sure, he's made a few bad decisions, but funnily enough, running a country isn't the easiest job in the world...

On the other hand, I don't think peace prizes should be given to world leaders simply for being a world leader, unless there's a very significant reason. And there doesn't really seem to be just yet, I think they're just hopeful that he WILL do something extraordinary.

Again, you can pick me to pieces all you like, but that's just my viewpoint. I imagine a lot of you will think that I can't possibly REALLY know, because I'm not American.
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Political reasoning aside; it is true he hasn't done much yet, but he's got a long way to go and nothing he's promised can be accomplished in a day's time. I think it shows that people around the world have hope in him, and that's comforting to know for me as an American citizen. He might not deserve it yet, but I'm sure he'll earn it in the future and try to live up to it now that he’s received it.
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I think it's great; but seriously, a Nobel Prize already? Yeah, I have to agree that he doesn't deserve it yet.
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Too early. Maybe he'll have earned it by the end of his term, but after 9 months he hasn't been able to do much more than deal with GWB's mess.
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Too early. Maybe he'll have earned it by the end of his term, but after 9 months he hasn't been able to do much more than deal with GWB's mess.
Healthcare, LGBT Issues, and Still plundgering economy are not George Bush' fault. But nither is this nobel peace prize. I dont understand why people are mad at Obama. He didnt choose to be nominiated let alone awarded. He knows he doesn't deserve it. But hopfully he lives up to the award by the end of his term. If the pressure wasen't on before, its on now.
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he spends to much time buidling his legacy as teh president who rid the world of nuclear weapons... spreading his moral superiority across teh world...when he doesent protect his peoplesw human rights and libertys... he kept a fraction of his promises... all teh crap he said about doma and dadt resulted in nothing...

he is give teh nobel peace prize for diplomatic work but he hasent done any he trys with north korea and iran and tehy ignore him he doesent have teh skill to coonect like bill clinton had despite his other faults... obama doesent do diplomatic work he hasent needed to all the other un friendly antion leaders throw themselves at him like whores on puppet strings...

ive lost faith in him i was counting on him to so what he promised and pioneer lgbt rights in teh hope that the uk would take notice and follow suit...but he has failed as far as im concerned.
Well, it's already been said...he's been president for about nine months.

As for keeping a fraction of his promises, I think you'll find that out of all the promises he's actually managed to act on yet, he was able to keep considerably more of them than the ones he couldn't keep. I think what you meant to say was, he's only ACTED ON a fraction of his promises....because he's only been president for about nine months. <_<

I honestly think people are being a bit harsh, in my opinion he was left with THE world's biggest mess to clear up, and so far he really isn't doing badly. Sure, he's made a few bad decisions, but funnily enough, running a country isn't the easiest job in the world...

On the other hand, I don't think peace prizes should be given to world leaders simply for being a world leader, unless there's a very significant reason. And there doesn't really seem to be just yet, I think they're just hopeful that he WILL do something extraordinary.

Again, you can pick me to pieces all you like, but that's just my viewpoint. I imagine a lot of you will think that I can't possibly REALLY know, because I'm not American.
no i meant what i said and how i said it.... or i wouldent of said it the way it was said, he mad4e promises and big speeches on things that have to be changed asap ...then ignore them and moved on to somthign that wasent his concern....this nuclear weapon lot is the sort of thign you do in your second term when youve pretty much got all your other promises kept and everything you set out to do is well on its way...then you make your legacy ... but hes doign things backwards all his time is goign to be taken up focusing on saving the world and international diplomacy...and i dont believe its to repair americas image abroad... he will focus on these for the most part then witha bit of time left turn to his own people to do a bit on the things he said he would do...

after all lets look at qhat he said...started off energy...said it had to change nothign moved on dadt and doma...then nothing.... then health care reform a MASSIVE thing that got him shot at on all sides..nothign move on...now its nuclear dissarmement..whats next?...

i know people wont agree with my pov on this but hey we are all allowed our oppinions.
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I basically laughed when I heard about this.
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Old 9th Oct 2009, 01:56 PM   #15
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I should get a Nobel Peace Prize methinks, they must be giving them out free now =O Socialism =O xD

Seriously though, for "Creating Hope"?

This calls for Tommy Lee Jones to make an appearance.



I understand WHY it might make sense to give him it, but the reasons are just... so stupid. He definitely doesn't deserve it so early. and he really has no reason to deserve it either! If he does something in the next 4 years that actually merits him it, I'll be surprised. (And for those who'll tell me to try to believe in my president, I gave him many tries already =P, I personally think he should've been automatically not able to be considered for this when he totally blew off ever Armenian in the world by not recognizing the Armenian Genocide when he had the perfect chance to. Instead he avoided it, and called it a tragedy. So yeah, don't tell me to try to have "hope", because I'm going to create Hope right now and Hope I beat Condemned tonight finally. If I do, can I get the Nobel Peace Prize too ^_^ Because then at least I'll actually be delivering the Hope =P xD)

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ive lost faith in him i was counting on him to so what he promised and pioneer lgbt rights in teh hope that the uk would take notice and follow suit...but he has failed as far as im concerned.
It hasn't even been a year in office and you've "lost faith?" With a shitty economy, a war, and all the other crap going on in the U.S., you really expect LGBT equality to be his number 1 concern? I understand you want rights but let's be realistic. If he makes a move towards equality chances are it won't be until his second term. Not to mention it isn't up to him to put bills in Congress, he just gives them his John Hancock.
Obama didn't deserve a Nobel Prize. But you can't blame everything on him. Jesus.
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ive lost faith in him i was counting on him to so what he promised and pioneer lgbt rights in teh hope that the uk would take notice and follow suit...but he has failed as far as im concerned.
It hasn't even been a year in office and you've "lost faith?" With a shitty economy, a war, and all the other crap going on in the U.S., you really expect LGBT equality to be his number 1 concern? I understand you want rights but let's be realistic. If he makes a move towards equality chances are it won't be until his second term. Not to mention it isn't up to him to put bills in Congress, he just gives them his John Hancock.
Obama didn't deserve a Nobel Prize. But you can't blame everything on him. Jesus.
i dont blame everything on him...so i dont knwo where you got that.... and im sorry human rights matter to me i forgot how unimportant they are nowadays... and yes a war a shit econemy and all teh other shit in the usa...why does he go and add more work to the load when he hasent fixed them problems first... you cant get away from that logic...that starting things before you finish what you allready started jstu gets you with lots of unfinished half assed things...

and i have lost faith... as in his campaign said alot and it sounded good...got in office and said alot... and 9 months is a long time... i dont ask for everythign to be fixed tahts not gonna happen but some progress on anything and there jsut isnt ..even teh war as you bring it up he said how he was goign to get the troops out....now theres talk of increasing troop numbers...

a good way to round up how i feel about the obama administration... for the first time in nearly two decades a president is not goign to meet the dalai lama... and in teh article there was this quote " our relationsionship with china has to be based on more than human rights" or more or less that... its been a few days since i read it... but the message was clear human rights came second to better chiense relations... this is a contrast to obama asking bush to boycot the olympics over the tibet human rights.. how things change...

so this sums up my view on this hypocrits,back trackers, no conviction...so yea..moving on.
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this is the first i hear of thos award. i thought it went to people that invented something that was life changing.
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Well, having done some research on who got it in the past, I'm getting the impression it's usually not given as a reward for a job well done, but more as an encouragement to "keep up the good work". Most people who got it didn't exactly get it after they solved all the world problems.

So it would make sense to give it to Obama as an encouragement and as a reminder to stay the course. It's still a bit too soon, I think, but it does make some sense if you look at it that way. If it acts as a moral obligation to actually achieve the goals he set, it's not too bad.

And let's not make this into an argument about his glbt actions so far. It's not the Nobel glbt appreciation prize.
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As far as I can see it the only way he could have recieved this is purely and simply because of SYMPATHY because of who he is or beacuse someone wants to placate his "followers". He has talked a lot, but has not delivered a single action. He does not deserve it, because he has done NOTHING so far. If he gets it, then why shouldn't Bush, Howard and Rudd get one too? I mean they all actually did something politically and socially in their time, regardless of it being right or wrong.
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