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| EC Addict Full Member ![]() Gender: Female Location: Europe Age: 26 Posts: 1,658 Join Date: Jul 2009 | I just can't believe it! Just saw it on the news.. I'm also thinking that he doesn't deserve it. The man has been in office for what, nine months? What has he done?? So many people in this world who are actually doing something (some at the risk of their own lives!) to free people, are they just got laughed at, in my opinion. People that would need the attention to their projects or cause, not to mention the money that comes with the prize. The Nobel Prize Committee has been grilled by the journalists in Oslo (Norway) for their reasons to give Obama the prize. The man was drowning on live tv, struggling to say something that made sense. He defended the choice by saying that people like Gorbachev or Willy Brandt (Chanceler of Germany back in the 1970's) also got the prize. Ok, BUT both did something to get/earn the prize! Gorbachev helped the Iron Curtain to come down, and Brandt made efforts to connect with DDR (German Democratic Republic). I like Obama, but i don't think he deserves this.
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| EC Addict Full Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: A few people Location: australia Age: 23 Posts: 527 Join Date: May 2007 | yeah i could not believe it, what the hell as he done? i mean there are people like morgan tvsangari in zambawai that face death to bring peace and he is forgotten and people in iraq and iran to bring demoractic life and they are recognised and this guy who hasnt done anything gets the biggest award for peace, its a joke It doesnt matter what peoples politics are or if people are black or white they should see that this has been an award that has been so wrongly placed
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| A** Backwards Full Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: omaha, ne Age: 27 Posts: 409 Join Date: May 2007 | i also think he has done nothing worthy of receiving it
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| EC Addict Full Member ![]() Gender: Spazmatazz Orientation: Friendspage Location: Contrabassoon Posts: 1,739 Join Date: Aug 2008 | Me too. But he's not the first controversial Nobel Peace Prize recipient by any means... I mean compared to people like Yasser Arafat and Menachem Begin, Obama is a very worthy recipient of the prize.
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| professional lurker Full Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: bisexual prefering males Out Status: don't ask don't tell (ask and I'll tell) Location: oakville(college) and oshawa(hometown) ont, Canada Age: 22 Posts: 1,101 Join Date: Apr 2009 | so far all Obama has done is become president of the USA, and not yet gone to war.
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| Just passing through Full Member Gender: Something Orientation: Dunno Out Status: If they ask i will tell them Location: Wherever Age: 23 Posts: 6,002 Join Date: Mar 2009 | he spends to much time buidling his legacy as teh president who rid the world of nuclear weapons... spreading his moral superiority across teh world...when he doesent protect his peoplesw human rights and libertys... he kept a fraction of his promises... all teh crap he said about doma and dadt resulted in nothing... he is give teh nobel peace prize for diplomatic work but he hasent done any he trys with north korea and iran and tehy ignore him he doesent have teh skill to coonect like bill clinton had despite his other faults... obama doesent do diplomatic work he hasent needed to all the other un friendly antion leaders throw themselves at him like whores on puppet strings... ive lost faith in him i was counting on him to so what he promised and pioneer lgbt rights in teh hope that the uk would take notice and follow suit...but he has failed as far as im concerned.
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| Cecile's sidekick EC Advisor ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: All but extended family Location: Belgium, EU Age: 28 Posts: 3,366 Join Date: Feb 2009 | It gets even weirder if you consider that the submissions are entered at 1st of februari. So Obama was in office a full 11 days before he got nominated I can see how striving for diplomatic solutions and de-escalation in international tensions is a good thing, but really, if they are dead-set on giving it to Obama while he's still in office, they had a few years to do it! Well, at least they gave it to a guy that has the right intentions. The nobel comittee has made far stranger choices in the past... And perhaps they felt the prize needed some spotlight now, which it wouldn't have gotten if they had awarded some obcure third-world activist.
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| Empty Closets Mod EC Moderator ![]() Gender: Female Orientation: Bisexual Out Status: Inconsequential if people know. Location: York, United Kingdom Age: 19 Posts: 2,102 Join Date: Mar 2008 | Quote:
As for keeping a fraction of his promises, I think you'll find that out of all the promises he's actually managed to act on yet, he was able to keep considerably more of them than the ones he couldn't keep. I think what you meant to say was, he's only ACTED ON a fraction of his promises....because he's only been president for about nine months. <_< I honestly think people are being a bit harsh, in my opinion he was left with THE world's biggest mess to clear up, and so far he really isn't doing badly. Sure, he's made a few bad decisions, but funnily enough, running a country isn't the easiest job in the world... On the other hand, I don't think peace prizes should be given to world leaders simply for being a world leader, unless there's a very significant reason. And there doesn't really seem to be just yet, I think they're just hopeful that he WILL do something extraordinary. Again, you can pick me to pieces all you like, but that's just my viewpoint. I imagine a lot of you will think that I can't possibly REALLY know, because I'm not American. ![]()
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| As Seen On Hoarders... Full Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: This cat is out of the bag - I mean closet Location: Pennsylvania, with the cows Age: 21 Posts: 2,391 Join Date: Jun 2009 | Political reasoning aside; it is true he hasn't done much yet, but he's got a long way to go and nothing he's promised can be accomplished in a day's time. I think it shows that people around the world have hope in him, and that's comforting to know for me as an American citizen. He might not deserve it yet, but I'm sure he'll earn it in the future and try to live up to it now that he’s received it.
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| DON'T TOUCH THE HAT! Full Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Immediate Family and Friends Location: Idaho, USA Age: 25 Posts: 1,098 Join Date: Sep 2009 | I think it's great; but seriously, a Nobel Prize already? Yeah, I have to agree that he doesn't deserve it yet.
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| Ytse Jamming. Full Member ![]() Gender: Female Orientation: Lesbian Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Dublin, Ireland Age: 27 Posts: 2,217 Join Date: Oct 2008 | Too early. Maybe he'll have earned it by the end of his term, but after 9 months he hasn't been able to do much more than deal with GWB's mess.
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| Guest Posts: n/a | Healthcare, LGBT Issues, and Still plundgering economy are not George Bush' fault. But nither is this nobel peace prize. I dont understand why people are mad at Obama. He didnt choose to be nominiated let alone awarded. He knows he doesn't deserve it. But hopfully he lives up to the award by the end of his term. If the pressure wasen't on before, its on now. |
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| Just passing through Full Member Gender: Something Orientation: Dunno Out Status: If they ask i will tell them Location: Wherever Age: 23 Posts: 6,002 Join Date: Mar 2009 | Quote:
after all lets look at qhat he said...started off energy...said it had to change nothign moved on dadt and doma...then nothing.... then health care reform a MASSIVE thing that got him shot at on all sides..nothign move on...now its nuclear dissarmement..whats next?... i know people wont agree with my pov on this but hey we are all allowed our oppinions.
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| EC Addict Full Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Boston, MA Age: 21 Posts: 2,166 Join Date: Aug 2008 | I basically laughed when I heard about this.
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| One Is Light. One Is Dark. Full Member ![]() Gender: The Dude Orientation: Bi-Winning Out Status: Everybody and Your Mom. Location: Bolivar, Ohio (From NY though) Age: 21 Posts: 7,672 Join Date: Dec 2008 | I should get a Nobel Peace Prize methinks, they must be giving them out free now =O Socialism =O xD Seriously though, for "Creating Hope"? This calls for Tommy Lee Jones to make an appearance. ![]() I understand WHY it might make sense to give him it, but the reasons are just... so stupid. He definitely doesn't deserve it so early. and he really has no reason to deserve it either! If he does something in the next 4 years that actually merits him it, I'll be surprised. (And for those who'll tell me to try to believe in my president, I gave him many tries already =P, I personally think he should've been automatically not able to be considered for this when he totally blew off ever Armenian in the world by not recognizing the Armenian Genocide when he had the perfect chance to. Instead he avoided it, and called it a tragedy. So yeah, don't tell me to try to have "hope", because I'm going to create Hope right now and Hope I beat Condemned tonight finally. If I do, can I get the Nobel Peace Prize too ^_^ Because then at least I'll actually be delivering the Hope =P xD) Tee hee ^_^
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| Furry Overlord Full Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Pansexual Out Status: Majority Location: Illinois Age: 20 Posts: 1,325 Join Date: Jul 2008 | Quote:
Obama didn't deserve a Nobel Prize. But you can't blame everything on him. Jesus.
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| Just passing through Full Member Gender: Something Orientation: Dunno Out Status: If they ask i will tell them Location: Wherever Age: 23 Posts: 6,002 Join Date: Mar 2009 | Quote:
and i have lost faith... as in his campaign said alot and it sounded good...got in office and said alot... and 9 months is a long time... i dont ask for everythign to be fixed tahts not gonna happen but some progress on anything and there jsut isnt ..even teh war as you bring it up he said how he was goign to get the troops out....now theres talk of increasing troop numbers... a good way to round up how i feel about the obama administration... for the first time in nearly two decades a president is not goign to meet the dalai lama... and in teh article there was this quote " our relationsionship with china has to be based on more than human rights" or more or less that... its been a few days since i read it... but the message was clear human rights came second to better chiense relations... this is a contrast to obama asking bush to boycot the olympics over the tibet human rights.. how things change... so this sums up my view on this hypocrits,back trackers, no conviction...so yea..moving on.
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| Guest Posts: n/a | this is the first i hear of thos award. i thought it went to people that invented something that was life changing. |
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| Cecile's sidekick EC Advisor ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: All but extended family Location: Belgium, EU Age: 28 Posts: 3,366 Join Date: Feb 2009 | Well, having done some research on who got it in the past, I'm getting the impression it's usually not given as a reward for a job well done, but more as an encouragement to "keep up the good work". Most people who got it didn't exactly get it after they solved all the world problems. So it would make sense to give it to Obama as an encouragement and as a reminder to stay the course. It's still a bit too soon, I think, but it does make some sense if you look at it that way. If it acts as a moral obligation to actually achieve the goals he set, it's not too bad. And let's not make this into an argument about his glbt actions so far. It's not the Nobel glbt appreciation prize.
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| Kitty! (=`ω´=) Full Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: All but family Location: Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Age: 20 Posts: 3,479 Join Date: Apr 2009 | As far as I can see it the only way he could have recieved this is purely and simply because of SYMPATHY because of who he is or beacuse someone wants to placate his "followers". He has talked a lot, but has not delivered a single action. He does not deserve it, because he has done NOTHING so far. If he gets it, then why shouldn't Bush, Howard and Rudd get one too? I mean they all actually did something politically and socially in their time, regardless of it being right or wrong.
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