Religion and rationality

I'm a Catholic. My religion doesn't hate the LGBT.

Lemme find some threads for you in which we already went over this.

 

It's too bad your friend was there then. I also went to a prominent Catholic High School on Long Island, and went to Church before that many times. I believe what I believe. Just because that church, or that priest doesn't know what he's talking about, doesn't mean the whole religion feels the same. My school most definitely didn't teach that. They were quite accepting.

 

Ok, here comes Atheist Dylan to the rescue!:
Religion is moral blinding. It induces people to follow morals that are 100s, if not 1000s years old. The concept of God and believing in God is nothing more than comfort and to believe humans have a reason of living. Religion is one of the most corrupt, idiotic, and unquestioned institutions that the world has ever seen and I believe it is destroying the human race.
Btw, Im not really atheist XD
Great thread by the way! Your original post is so much better written than anything I would of came up for this subject.

 

And you are correct. Everyone is going to Hell :roflmao:

 

You are very lucky to have been taught by a very liberal Catholic high school then. I went to a Catholic school too (all girls convent school run by the Sisters of Mercy), left in 2002, and attitudes were very different.

 

Eh. When I believed in all that mumbo-jumbo, I was quite able to separate my rational thoughts from my religious morals. I simply convinced myself that some parts of the bible were 'all right in a certain time and place' or that they were allegorical in nature. Of course, that didn't help explain why I should believe the rest of it if some of it was wrong...

But it's not that crazy to see how people can believe two conflicting things. Even when the evidence for one of them is next to non-existent.

 

Lol, my high school was not Very LIberal or Liberal at all xD trust me xD Neither am I for that matter But that's on my own accords

A few threads to look at:
What Religion Are you?
Religion

 

I'm Catholic, and aside from the argument I take offence to the way certain values have been attacked. Whilst I respect the right to voice your opinion, I think it would be great to do it in a way that didn't put down what other people believe.

 

From the dearly beloved former leader of the Catholic church, Pope John Paul II. I, for one, do not miss him at all.

The thing that turned me away from religion was the fact that no one can make up their freaking mind on who's right. (OK, in reality it was The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins, but how cliche is that?) In real, empirical studies, we can pretty much say who's out of their mind or way off of the base. But in religion, we can't do that. The sixteen headed Hindu god is no less possible than Jesus Christ or the Flying Spaghetti Monster. How on earth can you defend something like that? What I'm trying to say is: what makes you believe in Jesus Christ over Mohammed or Buddha? The simple answer is usually how you were brought up. It's that simple. And so I thought if there was any empirical evidence for Jesus Christ being the messiah. Giving the crazy nature of the Bible, I would think not.

Which brings me to a similar point. Many Christians will look at ancient Mesopotamian mythology or the Greek pantheon and say that those are myths, yet ignore the own mythological nature of their own religion. Thanks to the work of anthropologists, we can trace the origins of Judaism to back to similar roots as ancient "mythological" Middle Eastern religions, yet somehow those are myths while Christianity is the truth. I do not claim to understand this.

As for my views: I do not care much about religion. I see it more as a symptom of a problem rather than the problem itself. People do not care to educate themselves or challenge the previous generations on matters of tradition, so they remain religious. The promises of a loving parental figure and eternal justice may be comforting for some. But the thing is, if everyone in their current state were to lose religion, it would be anarchy. If you want to get rid of religion, you would have to attack ignorance and our social structure first.

This is bound to come off as condescending, so let me end with this: I think there are multiple ways of realizing truths. If your way is through religion, I can respect that. I do not claim to understand it, but I can respect the symbolic meaning of your truths, if that makes any sense at all.

 

I was being sarcastic in case you couldn't tell

Also Read THIS POST from an old thread. It's brilliantly written by Holly.

 

I absolutely agree with this. I identify as atheist, I have many friends who are of a more religious standing, but we are able to respect each other and it doesn't cause conflict. It's really pretty great.

I really don't think it's possible to be gay and identify with any large, established religion, but to those who do it, more power to you.

 

Liar.

Some members of the RCC laity are ok with gays, but the church and many of its members certainly are anything BUT ok with gays. Reference their efforts in California (along with the Mormons) and in Maine (biggest player in the Yes on 1 question to stop marriage from being enacted there) if you're confused on this. Oh, and of course, statements from Pope John Paul 2 and Pope Naziguy the Eleventeenth should help clear up any confusion.

 

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