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HazMattic_Force · 28th Oct 2009, 05:58 PM

So last year i got written up for PDA at school the principal made it abundantly clear i was gay to my mom , today my friend got wrote up for pda and the same principal made it a fact that he is gay to his HOMOPHOBIC dad who he is closeted to because he doesn't know what will happen to him ...... this principal has removed GSA posters [ btw this is a assistant principal] is he allowed to do this i have a closet gay friend who heard him say and i qoute "with that on you look like some stupid fa***t he also he follows the open gay students to try to write them up for anything he can , should i go to the head principal about this WHO allowed us to start a GSA and is open minded and btw he doesn't "see" the straight couples kissing or hugging or etcetera and they do it nearly constantly and if he isn't actually seeing it it is because he is watching the gay kids to try to write us up for something

PDA= public display of affection
GSA = gay striaght alliance
write up= referral

endless poetry · 28th Oct 2009, 06:10 PM

do talk to your real principal about this,

mind you,

there`s only one thing principals are afraid of: their superintendents.

there`s only one thing the superintendants are afraid of: the school board

there`s only one thing in turn the school board is afraid of: public opinion.

If even the superintendents and the school board will not listen to your case, make such a huge deal out of this that they have to step back from their imposing actions. Have a holy war against prejudice against the sexual minorities. If we had a principal like that, I`d want to punch something real hard.

HazMattic_Force · 28th Oct 2009, 06:11 PM

ill just do that ..

fallendream · 28th Oct 2009, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by endless poetry

do talk to your real principal about this,

mind you,

there`s only one thing principals are afraid of: their superintendents.

there`s only one thing the superintendants are afraid of: the school board

there`s only one thing in turn the school board is afraid of: public opinion.

If even the superintendents and the school board will not listen to your case, make such a huge deal out of this that they have to step back from their imposing actions. Have a holy war against prejudice against the sexual minorities. If we had a principal like that, I`d want to punch something real hard.

QFT.

but yeah, he sounds pretty bad-ass. i suggest writing to the head of education (for england its ed balls)

ethelred · 28th Oct 2009, 07:21 PM

HUGE PUBLIC STINK, endless poetry is totally right.

This guy is an a**hole.

Darkwing65 · 28th Oct 2009, 08:22 PM

Totally not cool. You definitely should go see the principal. Get this homophobe straightened out (lol no pun intended) or fired. Witch ever he prefers.

Bigotry cannot be tolerated. If it is not corrected, its accepted. Simply being apathetic towards social injustice will only fuel the problem further.

This was another PSR (Public Service Rant) brought to you by Darin. lol

starfish · 28th Oct 2009, 08:44 PM

Something is rotten in the state of Denmark.

MusicIsLife · 28th Oct 2009, 09:46 PM

Totally go to your principal, the school board, whatever. He has no right to do that whatsoever.

**Chip** · 29th Oct 2009, 01:12 AM

The first thing I would do is contact PFLAG Little Rock. Here's their contact info

PFLAG Little Rock
PO Box 2300
North Little Rock, AR 72114
pflaglr@gmail.com
Phone: (501) 244-9690

It's highly likely that there are parents in that chapter that have children in your school, or at the very least, in your school system. If you can enlist the help of a couple of people from PFLAG to help bring the situation up, it will register a lot more strongly on the principal or superintendent.

You may also want to do some legwork (PFLAG may be able to help you with this) to determine if there are any non-discrimination policies already in place in the Little Rock school system that apply to sexual orientation.

Whether there are written policies or not, it sounds like you already have some support from your principal, and I would basically collect the information, ask for some extra help, and then go meet with him. It's not easy going against someone who is considered an authority figure, and the more well prepared you are, the more the principal, or at least the superintendent, will be likely to help you.

Please keep us informed of the progress.

Katherine · 29th Oct 2009, 06:42 PM

Ugh, that sucks, and I can relate. My school principal is a total homophobe who has frequently shot down the idea of starting a GSA and even tried to make it impossible for the school to do the Day of Silence.

Unfortunately, the rest of the school system isn't much better. Where we live there's no special PFLAG system or majorly gay-rights public opinion. Just a bunch of southern baptist rednecks who believe that "goin' to God's house every Sunday mornin' and goin' out ridin' four-wheelers and shootin' up some bucks" is the way people should live, and that "bein' a f**kin' f**got isn't what our lord Jesus wanted and He's gon' send y'all to burn in Hell for y'all's disgustin' sins." (Believe it or not, I'm not exaggerating. You don't want to know how many people I've met who ACTUALLY talk like that.)

But yeah. You get my point.

seanr · 29th Oct 2009, 07:18 PM

headmasters are THE WORST when it comes to this.
mine found out, and decided all the "high ranking" people should know (headmaster, technition, deputy, KS4 advisor etc.)

luckily I was able to talk to a very close friend, who was in charge of KS4. she then told them not to say anything towards my parents. I told my family shortly after.

tbh, if they know, they shouldn't rub it in your face like you don't have a right to that information >.>

though granted, your school is worse, it seems nearly every gay person I talked to have had or known the headmaster getting personal with this information.

I suggest you do go ask him. and tell him exactly what you've heard, and what's happened.

**Chip** · 29th Oct 2009, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katherine

Where we live there's no special PFLAG system or majorly gay-rights public opinion.

I would be very surprised if there isn't a PFLAG somewhere near you. Check out the main pflag.org site and search for a local chapter. If there isn't one, think about starting one! I guarantee there are people in your area that are LGBT that need help and support if it isn't already there

Emberstone · 29th Oct 2009, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by starfish

Something is rotten in the state of Denmark.

Nah... Amy Winehouse was only visiting for a little while... Denmark will recover.

George · 30th Oct 2009, 04:32 AM

Damn. That sounds really crappy. Go talk to the head principle about it, because what they're doing definitely is wrong.
Keep in mind though, being written up for PDA is obviously in the school regulations, but not caring about outing students and the stalking part is plain wrong.

kramer362 · 30th Oct 2009, 08:57 AM

Yeah definitely go talk to your principal, or contact the ACLU, lol ... anything, this guy sounds like a prick abusing his power.

28th Oct 2009, 05:58 PM	#1
HazMattic_Force EC's Residential Raver Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Little Rock, Arkansas Age: 19 Posts: 696 Join Date: Apr 2009	are they allowed to do this ? So last year i got written up for PDA at school the principal made it abundantly clear i was gay to my mom , today my friend got wrote up for pda and the same principal made it a fact that he is gay to his HOMOPHOBIC dad who he is closeted to because he doesn't know what will happen to him ...... this principal has removed GSA posters [ btw this is a assistant principal] is he allowed to do this i have a closet gay friend who heard him say and i qoute "with that on you look like some stupid fa***t he also he follows the open gay students to try to write them up for anything he can , should i go to the head principal about this WHO allowed us to start a GSA and is open minded and btw he doesn't "see" the straight couples kissing or hugging or etcetera and they do it nearly constantly and if he isn't actually seeing it it is because he is watching the gay kids to try to write us up for something PDA= public display of affection GSA = gay striaght alliance write up= referral __________________ Humanity is Sadism at its Finest .

28th Oct 2009, 06:10 PM	#2
endless poetry We're off to see the wizard Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: A few friends know Location: Ottawa Age: 18 Posts: 547 Join Date: Aug 2009	Re: are they allowed to do this ? do talk to your real principal about this, mind you, there`s only one thing principals are afraid of: their superintendents. there`s only one thing the superintendants are afraid of: the school board there`s only one thing in turn the school board is afraid of: public opinion. If even the superintendents and the school board will not listen to your case, make such a huge deal out of this that they have to step back from their imposing actions. Have a holy war against prejudice against the sexual minorities. If we had a principal like that, I`d want to punch something real hard. __________________ Se eu te pudesse abraçar. Written no book of this life, I am a mere pamphlet who thinks that I am a best selling novel.

28th Oct 2009, 06:11 PM	#3
HazMattic_Force EC's Residential Raver Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Little Rock, Arkansas Age: 19 Posts: 696 Join Date: Apr 2009	Re: are they allowed to do this ? ill just do that .. __________________ Humanity is Sadism at its Finest .

28th Oct 2009, 07:21 PM	#5
ethelred Well Known Regular Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Age: 23 Posts: 217 Join Date: Oct 2009	Re: are they allowed to do this ? HUGE PUBLIC STINK, endless poetry is totally right. This guy is an a**hole.

28th Oct 2009, 08:22 PM	#6
Darkwing65 El Comandante Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Bisexualish. Out Status: A few people Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico Age: 24 Posts: 470 Join Date: Oct 2009	Re: are they allowed to do this ? Totally not cool. You definitely should go see the principal. Get this homophobe straightened out (lol no pun intended) or fired. Witch ever he prefers. Bigotry cannot be tolerated. If it is not corrected, its accepted. Simply being apathetic towards social injustice will only fuel the problem further. This was another PSR (Public Service Rant) brought to you by Darin. lol __________________ CHALLENGE THE STATUS QUO! ‎"Puede salir cuando quiere, Pero nunca yo partir"

28th Oct 2009, 08:44 PM	#7
starfish This space for lease. Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: I like guys Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Hippie Town, Alberta of the US Age: 31 Posts: 2,108 Join Date: Nov 2008	Re: are they allowed to do this ? Something is rotten in the state of Denmark. __________________ All the problems of the world could be settled easily if men were only willing to think. The trouble is that men very often resort to all sorts of devices in order not to think, because thinking is such hard work. --Thomas J. Watson

28th Oct 2009, 09:46 PM	#8
MusicIsLife EC Addict Full Member Gender: Not even sure anymore. Something in between. Orientation: I like girls :) Out Status: Everyone on orientation 7 people on trans issue. Location: Montréal, QC Age: 23 Posts: 1,595 Join Date: Dec 2007	Re: are they allowed to do this ? Totally go to your principal, the school board, whatever. He has no right to do that whatsoever.

29th Oct 2009, 01:12 AM	#9
Chip EC Advisor EC Admin Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: northern CA Posts: 5,576 Join Date: May 2008	Re: are they allowed to do this ? The first thing I would do is contact PFLAG Little Rock. Here's their contact info PFLAG Little Rock PO Box 2300 North Little Rock, AR 72114 pflaglr@gmail.com Phone: (501) 244-9690 It's highly likely that there are parents in that chapter that have children in your school, or at the very least, in your school system. If you can enlist the help of a couple of people from PFLAG to help bring the situation up, it will register a lot more strongly on the principal or superintendent. You may also want to do some legwork (PFLAG may be able to help you with this) to determine if there are any non-discrimination policies already in place in the Little Rock school system that apply to sexual orientation. Whether there are written policies or not, it sounds like you already have some support from your principal, and I would basically collect the information, ask for some extra help, and then go meet with him. It's not easy going against someone who is considered an authority figure, and the more well prepared you are, the more the principal, or at least the superintendent, will be likely to help you. Please keep us informed of the progress.

29th Oct 2009, 06:42 PM	#10
Katherine Professional Cuddler Full Member Gender: 75% female Orientation: 110% gay Out Status: 98% out Location: The land of rednecks and pine trees (Georgia) Age: 19 Posts: 1,745 Join Date: Mar 2009	Re: are they allowed to do this ? Ugh, that sucks, and I can relate. My school principal is a total homophobe who has frequently shot down the idea of starting a GSA and even tried to make it impossible for the school to do the Day of Silence. Unfortunately, the rest of the school system isn't much better. Where we live there's no special PFLAG system or majorly gay-rights public opinion. Just a bunch of southern baptist rednecks who believe that "goin' to God's house every Sunday mornin' and goin' out ridin' four-wheelers and shootin' up some bucks" is the way people should live, and that "bein' a fkin' fgot isn't what our lord Jesus wanted and He's gon' send y'all to burn in Hell for y'all's disgustin' sins." (Believe it or not, I'm not exaggerating. You don't want to know how many people I've met who ACTUALLY talk like that.) But yeah. You get my point. __________________ Overly emotional five-foot-tall vegetarian gamer girl who procrastinates way too much. Loves food, art, cats, and making people smile.

29th Oct 2009, 07:18 PM	#11
seanr massive portal fan :D Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: family IRL, EVERYONE on the internet :D Location: swindon, UK Age: 19 Posts: 478 Join Date: Dec 2008	Re: are they allowed to do this ? headmasters are THE WORST when it comes to this. mine found out, and decided all the "high ranking" people should know (headmaster, technition, deputy, KS4 advisor etc.) luckily I was able to talk to a very close friend, who was in charge of KS4. she then told them not to say anything towards my parents. I told my family shortly after. tbh, if they know, they shouldn't rub it in your face like you don't have a right to that information >.> though granted, your school is worse, it seems nearly every gay person I talked to have had or known the headmaster getting personal with this information. I suggest you do go ask him. and tell him exactly what you've heard, and what's happened.

30th Oct 2009, 04:32 AM	#14
George Banned Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 19 Posts: 2,387 Join Date: Jul 2007	Re: are they allowed to do this ? Damn. That sounds really crappy. Go talk to the head principle about it, because what they're doing definitely is wrong. Keep in mind though, being written up for PDA is obviously in the school regulations, but not caring about outing students and the stalking part is plain wrong.

30th Oct 2009, 08:57 AM	#15
kramer362 EC Addict Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: A few people Location: western new york Age: 26 Posts: 400 Join Date: Nov 2007	Re: are they allowed to do this ? Yeah definitely go talk to your principal, or contact the ACLU, lol ... anything, this guy sounds like a prick abusing his power.

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