God can cure you...

[RaeofLite]

Wait, before you hit something to write an angry post... remember that I'm gay too.

I just put that as the catch phrase because it's what I was told today. Or rather my parents' old family friends told them that. And that... They will "pray for me".

Thanks? *nervous laughter on my part to my parents*

If only they knew how angst-ridden-depressed I was before I accepted myself and came out... It's funny, their son (one of them) said, "Yea that's not news. I knew she was like that."


Has anyone else encountered similar things? And how did you or your friends respond?

[Shevanel]

When they say that, they're just reiterating the words spoken to them from God, because He really wants to cure them from their insanity.

[Pseudojim]

Originally Posted by RaeofLite

Wait, before you hit something to write an angry post... remember that I'm gay too.

I just put that as the catch phrase because it's what I was told today. Or rather my parents' old family friends told them that. And that... They will "pray for me".

Thanks? *nervous laughter on my part to my parents*

If only they knew how angst-ridden-depressed I was before I accepted myself and came out... It's funny, their son (one of them) said, "Yea that's not news. I knew she was like that."


Has anyone else encountered similar things? And how did you or your friends respond?

I was mildly offended by a friend who said "we all knew that already" when i came out as bi. She's a very nice girl too, and very open minded, she meant no offense by it of course, but it struck a funny chord...

Nothing to do with god though. I still haven't come out to my very christian mate yet... i was close, but the conversation got interrupted. We'll see what he says.

Growing up as someone who was told that and as someone who believed it I can say that most of the time people who say this sort of thing aren't doing so to be mean or anything. Usually, they want the best for you and in their understanding that means you changing. Really they just don't know any better.

Homosexuality I think is a scary thing for Christians because they believe that the Bible is very clear about it being a sin but at the same time, no amount of prayer can 'cure' people of this sin. For many it seems like the options are believing that sexuality can be changed or that God does not actually 'sanctify' those that believe in Him (which is fundamental to Christianity).

Take it as a compliment that they are praying for you. By praying for you personally homosexuality will no longer be an abstract thing that they see on the news or read about in the papers but it will be a little more real to them. This may cause them to think about it a little more and they may eventually come to see that your homosexuality is not something to be 'cured'.

[Mouse]

oh my god. i've having such hooha with god at the moment. because i just find a decent reason to believe he exists. i came up with a weird analogoy yesterday with a banana. that banana cannot believe in god, neither me or the banana choosing to believe in god or not will change the circumstance that this is a banana and will follow the pattern of a bananas life, either get eaten, or go mouldy. it's just a banana. it's still a living organism, or it was until it was picked, so to me that translates as the world will still be the same place whether god is there or not, so it's ok for me not to believe in god.

yes i know, that's really weird to think like that. but it made sense to me.
and the bible is very not clear about being gay being a sin. it never mentions homosexuality, it only talks about hetrosexuality. and because it mentions this, it is holy, and anything to the contrary is not. well, that is the veiw of christians with the wrong idea.

my best friend, or was, is christian. she got me into the whole jesus is my saviour business. now i'm so worried that she'll not accept me as not a christian. and we are just drifting apart because i'm so afraid to tell her that her god doesn't exist for me.
i go to church most sundays, just to see if i can figure things out more rather than just say nope, i don't believe in this shit. i really love finding out about it. sure, i don't believe it, but isn't it wonderful that these people can honestly believe that there is a devine being that loves them and created this world for them. they love every second of they're lives becuase they love the thing that made it for them. wouldn't it be fantastic to feel like that? i tried, but can't, so oh well.
because i'm so close to the christian community in my area, i get prayed for alot. at christmas i told my church youthworker that my faith was pants so he offered to pray for me but i declinded because that would of been really weird... but it was nice, in a way. and i know Jo, the friend i talked about, prays for me. and i know lots of people at my church pray for me, because they see me upset on occasions and offer. of course i say no thankyou, but that won't stop them praying behind my back. Jo did that alot at spring harvest....

i'd take the praying as a compliment. it means that they care about your welfare, even though to you and me it's a bit weird to talk to thin air about what their thinking about.

nice thread, it helped me get some stuff of my chest

The way it was explained to me is that homosexuality is basically Satan making us lust after the same sex and that by turning to God we can overcome it and fight the devil and our impure thoughts. If this is the case, WHY ME? WHY THE FUCK DID SATAN PICK ME? Other than that, I love being gay and I'm glad I was raised in a very christian and faithful household. It has kept me grounded and has taught me some values of morality, though the ones that are important I think I've thrown out the window!

[Holmes]

Originally Posted by Pseudojim

I was mildly offended by a friend who said "we all knew that already" when i came out as bi. She's a very nice girl too, and very open minded, she meant no offense by it of course, but it struck a funny chord...

Slightly a tangent from the main topic hear, but why be offended if people already assumed that? If it's true, it mean you were just being yourself, and they're good at picking things up. One friend of mine wasn't really surprised, she'd actually asked me years ago. Most people didn't pick it up, but I wouldn't have minded if they had.

I really think gay activists should focus on the innateness. I heard someone saying after Prop 8 passed, "It's not like skin colour, you don't choose to be black". Seriously, why would any boy choose to go out with another boy and make love with him if them really didn't like boys?

[malachite]

Oh, yeah. I usually answer with:
"How can God cure me when there is nothing wrong with me? Can you even name where in the Bible it says homosexuality is wrong?"

or

"God will cure me, but all those really sick people are screwed huh?"

People have always used to religion to cloak themselves in a false sense righteousness.
Why can't they just twirl their mustaches like other villains?

[Connor22]

maybe when they said "pray for you" they didn't mean to try and cure you, because most Christian's aren't that closed minded (except for the ones who make headlines of course) perhaps they are going to pray to keep you safe and that you will find your way down the path god has set, did they actually use the word cure?

[Sicsemper79]

Disagree with several people above. The term "I'll pray for you" is a passive aggressive statement of judgment. It is what Christians tell gays when they don't have the balls to say what they mean... "You are a disgusting little sodomite and a plague on decent society. If you had any love for this world or those in it then you would immediately stop your devil lifestyle and be good people like us Christian Soldiers!".

The idea of "fixing" someones sexual orientation is dangerous and offensive. It is exactly what leads to cruising bathrooms looking for stranger sex and meth. My question to them is "Exactly how many kids have to KILL themselves before you will just follow Jesus' advice and love them for who they are?"

[s5m1]

Originally Posted by Sicsemper79

Disagree with several people above. The term "I'll pray for you" is a passive aggressive statement of judgment. It is what Christians tell gays when they don't have the balls to say what they mean... "You are a disgusting little sodomite and a plague on decent society. If you had any love for this world or those in it then you would immediately stop your devil lifestyle and be good people like us Christian Soldiers!".

The idea of "fixing" someones sexual orientation is dangerous and offensive. It is exactly what leads to cruising bathrooms looking for stranger sex and meth. My question to them is "Exactly how many kids have to KILL themselves before you will just follow Jesus' advice and love them for who they are?"

Well said.

[mmilam75]

Originally Posted by Sicsemper79

Disagree with several people above. The term "I'll pray for you" is a passive aggressive statement of judgment. It is what Christians tell gays when they don't have the balls to say what they mean... "You are a disgusting little sodomite and a plague on decent society. If you had any love for this world or those in it then you would immediately stop your devil lifestyle and be good people like us Christian Soldiers!".

The idea of "fixing" someones sexual orientation is dangerous and offensive. It is exactly what leads to cruising bathrooms looking for stranger sex and meth. My question to them is "Exactly how many kids have to KILL themselves before you will just follow Jesus' advice and love them for who they are?"

Couldn't have said it better

[MusicIsLife]

Ive gotten hate mail through youtube for posting a "Homophobia Is Gay" video, everything from "you're going to hell if you don't repent", to "If I ever meet you I'll cut your C**t off."

Luckily, i dont have any pics of myself on youtube, or videos for that matter. its all video montages.

At this point however insults and threats of that nature just bounce off me, I ignore them.

[starfish]

Yeah I find it incredibly passive aggressive. Here are my thoughts on it.

+ YouTube Video

Except replace whale with ignorance and dolphin with homophobe.

[Shevanel]

Originally Posted by MusicIsLife

Ive gotten hate mail through youtube for posting a "Homophobia Is Gay" video, everything from "you're going to hell if you don't repent", to "If I ever meet you I'll cut your C**t off."

Luckily, i dont have any pics of myself on youtube, or videos for that matter. its all video montages.

At this point however insults and threats of that nature just bounce off me, I ignore them.

Hehe, I should prepare for that I guess xD I'm about to make a video asking for legitimate arguments against Same Sex Marriage in America as an equal right guaranteed to all Citizens.

[RaeofLite]

Love the comments.

[haelmarie]

Originally Posted by Sicsemper79;624884"

You are a disgusting little sodomite and a plague on decent society. If you had any love for this world or those in it then you would immediately stop your devil lifestyle and be good people like us Christian Soldiers!".

HA! Can I steal this?

[Sicsemper79]

Originally Posted by haelmarie

HA! Can I steal this?

It's yours!