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RaeofLite · 19th Jan 2010, 06:37 PM

I wish there was more honesty and morals in the world... I just had to vent because I had my phone stolen today in class. I wonder if they just felt like stealing a phone or because I'm "out" and they don't like it...

*sigh*

What do you think? Would you like the world to be more or less honest overally?

GoBabyGoGo · 19th Jan 2010, 07:00 PM

hell yes!! dont know how people can do things like that! if i did, id just feel so bad and my conscience would kill me! and how about a sense of morality towards what humans are doing to the environment!?

olides84 · 19th Jan 2010, 07:06 PM

Sorry about your phone

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Originally Posted by RaeofLite

What do you think? Would you like the world to be more or less honest overally?

Sorry though but I had to laugh. Who would want less honesty in the world? Even people who are dishonest want more honesty for everyone else so that the public is more gullible.

Phoenix · 19th Jan 2010, 07:15 PM

Be careful what you wish for, because if I was as honest as I'd like to be many people would end up running away in tears. I'm sure a lot of people prefer tactful honesty (that is to say, telling the truth in a manner where people's feelings are taken into consideration). I know I would prefer that a lot of the time, which is why I'm not brutally honest most of the time.

But for your situation, I do wish people had a better sense of what's right and wrong. But the problem is right and wrong is so subjective. I mean yes there are universal wrongs such as you shouldn't kill, you shouldn't steal (which is like your case, in which I agree that there should definitely be less of that). But beyond that what's right for me might not necessarily be right for you. A lot of the time "morals" are subjective which is why we're left with the imperfect system we have where people cheat, lie, steal, kill etc. I do wish that people had a better sense of right and wrong that is derived from thinking about others but alas that's thinking of a world of ideals which we don't have.

Oh and by the way I'm sorry your phone got stolen, that's just petty of the thief.

stratavos · 19th Jan 2010, 07:18 PM

you can always aim to lead by example

19th Jan 2010, 07:54 PM

I think the world should be less honest. I mean, a really good lie forces you to use your imagination, which is something we all need more of. Without imagination and creativity, the world would be dull and boring. ^_^

bailey · 19th Jan 2010, 07:57 PM

i think there are plenty of honest people in the world, but then there are people who steal things, lie, etc, and that's why people always use "ugh people are so untrustworthy" and what not, i just think that some people need something like stealing in their life to feel better about themselves. honest and nonhonest people balance out lol

**lostinthought9** · 19th Jan 2010, 08:14 PM

Sorry to hear about your phone. The worst part about that is you can't get even with the damn thief! I'm angry for you! I hate thieves..

And yes, I value honesty. (Scorpio quality)

RaeofLite · 19th Jan 2010, 11:14 PM

Argh. I know. I have such a conscience. I could never take someone's phone without asking. And in that case it wouldn't be stealing... I can't even take a loonie (dollar) out of the pop machine if it dispenses extra change. I end up turning it into the office of the building it's in or whatever.

malachite · 21st Jan 2010, 02:02 PM

people do tend to have a: See, Want, Have attitude toward life. They get it in their head that only do they want something, but that they deserve to have it.

19th Jan 2010, 06:37 PM	#1
RaeofLite I've got the moves like Jagger Full Member Gender: ♀ Orientation: Sapphicly inclined Out Status: My closet is for clothes! Location: BC, Canada Age: 23 Posts: 3,111 Join Date: Apr 2009	Honesty in the world I wish there was more honesty and morals in the world... I just had to vent because I had my phone stolen today in class. I wonder if they just felt like stealing a phone or because I'm "out" and they don't like it... sigh What do you think? Would you like the world to be more or less honest overally? __________________ People will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel." -Bonnie Jean Wasmund (and the lesbians) Last edited by RaeofLite; 19th Jan 2010 at 06:42 PM..

19th Jan 2010, 07:00 PM	#2
GoBabyGoGo Music Nerd. Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: 99% Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 20 Posts: 433 Join Date: May 2007	Re: Honesty in the world hell yes!! dont know how people can do things like that! if i did, id just feel so bad and my conscience would kill me! and how about a sense of morality towards what humans are doing to the environment!? __________________ "If I were you, I'd have sex with me!"

19th Jan 2010, 07:15 PM	#4
Phoenix EC Addict Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Somewhere between gay and bisexual Out Status: Very Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 755 Join Date: Sep 2009	Re: Honesty in the world Be careful what you wish for, because if I was as honest as I'd like to be many people would end up running away in tears. I'm sure a lot of people prefer tactful honesty (that is to say, telling the truth in a manner where people's feelings are taken into consideration). I know I would prefer that a lot of the time, which is why I'm not brutally honest most of the time. But for your situation, I do wish people had a better sense of what's right and wrong. But the problem is right and wrong is so subjective. I mean yes there are universal wrongs such as you shouldn't kill, you shouldn't steal (which is like your case, in which I agree that there should definitely be less of that). But beyond that what's right for me might not necessarily be right for you. A lot of the time "morals" are subjective which is why we're left with the imperfect system we have where people cheat, lie, steal, kill etc. I do wish that people had a better sense of right and wrong that is derived from thinking about others but alas that's thinking of a world of ideals which we don't have. Oh and by the way I'm sorry your phone got stolen, that's just petty of the thief.

19th Jan 2010, 07:18 PM	#5
stratavos professional lurker Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: bisexual prefering males Out Status: don't ask don't tell (ask and I'll tell) Location: oakville(college) and oshawa(hometown) ont, Canada Age: 22 Posts: 1,101 Join Date: Apr 2009	Re: Honesty in the world you can always aim to lead by example __________________ <-is a very bad influence... and definately enjoys it hail lord ilpallazzo!

19th Jan 2010, 07:54 PM	#6
Drizzt DoUrden Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Honesty in the world I think the world should be less honest. I mean, a really good lie forces you to use your imagination, which is something we all need more of. Without imagination and creativity, the world would be dull and boring. ^_^

19th Jan 2010, 07:57 PM	#7
bailey Well Known Regular Member Gender: Female Orientation: Bisexual Out Status: 3 close friends Location: Chicago Age: 20 Posts: 206 Join Date: Jan 2010	Re: Honesty in the world i think there are plenty of honest people in the world, but then there are people who steal things, lie, etc, and that's why people always use "ugh people are so untrustworthy" and what not, i just think that some people need something like stealing in their life to feel better about themselves. honest and nonhonest people balance out lol

19th Jan 2010, 08:14 PM	#8
lostinthought9 EC's Biggest Xena Fan EC Moderator Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: A few people Location: Louisiana Age: 21 Posts: 2,059 Join Date: Jan 2008	Re: Honesty in the world Sorry to hear about your phone. The worst part about that is you can't get even with the damn thief! I'm angry for you! I hate thieves.. And yes, I value honesty. (Scorpio quality) __________________

19th Jan 2010, 11:14 PM	#9
RaeofLite I've got the moves like Jagger Full Member Gender: ♀ Orientation: Sapphicly inclined Out Status: My closet is for clothes! Location: BC, Canada Age: 23 Posts: 3,111 Join Date: Apr 2009	Re: Honesty in the world Argh. I know. I have such a conscience. I could never take someone's phone without asking. And in that case it wouldn't be stealing... I can't even take a loonie (dollar) out of the pop machine if it dispenses extra change. I end up turning it into the office of the building it's in or whatever. __________________ People will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel." -Bonnie Jean Wasmund (and the lesbians)

21st Jan 2010, 02:02 PM	#10
malachite EC's realist Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Orlando Posts: 6,480 Join Date: Apr 2009	Re: Honesty in the world people do tend to have a: See, Want, Have attitude toward life. They get it in their head that only do they want something, but that they deserve to have it. __________________ It's the 21st century, your bigotry is outdated. Either upgrade or go away.

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