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mj89 · 17th Apr 2010, 10:01 PM

So I was watching watching The Departed on FX earlier, and I needed to vent.

Everything is "FCC friendly." Fucking is replaced with freaking, dipshit was replaced with dipstick, etc. etc. But they just had a scene where faggot was ok. Would they had played n*gger on air? No. Would they say or show tits? No. But somehow saying faggot wasn't offensive?

Ugh. And right now I'm watching 8 Mile on TNT (clearly I have no life except watching movies right now) and they clipped out faggot and cut the ex scene. So what makes saying aggot on FX ok, but TNT knows better?

starfish · 17th Apr 2010, 10:10 PM

To sum it up. FX is more willing to push the boundaries than TNT, but not as much as say HBO or Showtime.

Shevanel · 17th Apr 2010, 10:16 PM

They probably would've played the N word on FX actually. I've definitely heard it on Network Television before. Bottom line is this:

Never watch movies on channels that have commercials.

Why? Not ONLY will they edit out anything in an R rated film that makes the film R rated to begin with, but they will also edit out "Unnecessary scenes" to fit into time slots with the commercials. A lot of the time these unnecessary scenes are actually really important, or have a lot of hilarity in them. I've seen it happen too many times and its like film murder. It's horrible. SOME channels aren't too bad to watch films they may be playing on them, like the SciFi channel ( I refuse to type out its new name >_>) and even Comedy Central after a certain time at night.

FX is interesting though. They allow "Shit" on the air sometimes. Sometimes not. Even "fuck" I've heard too, but that was probably after dark. It's all very complicated, the FCC and MPAA. Bullshit? Yes. But so is life

Nitro · 17th Apr 2010, 11:04 PM

And here I thought someone was going to complain about the most important thing the US Federal Communications Commission deals with - spectrum management. With the decline of shortwave radio in North America due to the internet and interference from other devices, maybe it would be nice to allow enthusiasts to broadcast on more favourable frequencies.

On to your topic …

Maybe if people wrote in every time a word was censored to complain instead of the other way around broadcasters and regulators would have more sensible policies. A lobby group wouldn't hurt either. If you are interested in double standards you may enjoy Kirby Dick's documentary on the MPAA.

"Horrific deplorable violence is okay, as long as they don't use any dirty words " - Sheila Broflovski

JB1986 · 17th Apr 2010, 11:10 PM

Yeah, I can't stand to watch movies on channels with commercials. A few weeks ago they had "Grease" on TV Land or something,and they cut out anything remotely "racy" (and this was around 1:00am too.) I can understand cutting out the lyric "you know it ain't no shit, we'll be getting lots of tit" from the song "Greased Lightning," but some of the other stuff they cut like when they talk about "putting out" and whatnot was completely ridiculous. Ugh, I couldn't finish watching it, the cuts were horrendous. And the cutting for commercials just irritates the hell out me. I'll just stick to Blu-Rays, DVDs, and HBO for my movie needs.

I think it depends on the channel in regards to the word f-ggot. I hate that that slur is still allowed. That word just burns me up. Alot of channels will bleep it out, but I guess FX allows it. I don't really get it either.

Darkwing65 · 18th Apr 2010, 08:30 AM

"So the FCC won't let me be
or let me be me, so let me see
They try to shut me down on MTV
But it feels so empty, without me "

I couldn't help it. lol

starfish · 18th Apr 2010, 08:35 AM

Time for this classic.

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Connor22 · 18th Apr 2010, 08:37 AM

^ you know I was going to post that

excuseyou77 · 18th Apr 2010, 08:47 AM

Ha! That song instantly comes to my head every time the FCC is ever brought up.

SlickyPants · 18th Apr 2010, 09:33 AM

You see what happens Larry? You see what happens when you find a stranger in the alps!

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Shevanel · 18th Apr 2010, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SlickyPants

You see what happens Larry? You see what happens when you find a stranger in the alps!

Omfg I love the fucking Big Lebowski <3 And yes, Censoring CAN have some novelty treasures, such as that. And I think in Die Hard with a Vengeance they change one of Samuel L Jackson's lines from Motherfucker to Melon Farmer, which led the phrase Melon Farmers to be used by Red in Pineapple Express xD

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They just used that one purposely though xD

**Owen** · 18th Apr 2010, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Shevanel

FX is interesting though. They allow "Shit" on the air sometimes. Sometimes not. Even "fuck" I've heard too, but that was probably after dark. It's all very complicated, the FCC and MPAA. Bullshit? Yes. But so is life

Even some regular channels allow "shit" in the right circumstances (I think it's after 10:00 PM). The recent Comedy Central Roasts allowed "shit" as long as it is used as an interjection and not to refer to excrement; that may be the differentiating factor for FX as well (that's pure conjecture, though). I even remember seeing it uncensored on Tenacious D's tv show once (the context was, "Onstage, we're the shit."), as well as on some real-life forensic TV show (context: "He was calling her, and basically threatening to beat the shit out of her.") I think the Tenacious D example happened during the day, surprisingly enough. In both cases, it was kind of surreal to hear it on television; I almost didn't believe that I had just heard it.

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Originally Posted by Darkwing65

"So the FCC won't let me be
or let me be me, so let me see
They try to shut me down on MTV
But it feels so empty, without me "

I couldn't help it. lol

I'd continue from here, but I think it may be too vulgar for this tender audience, so instead, I give you the clean version, which is pretty silly compared to the explicit version:
"Come on, get bum on you lips
Jump back, jiggle your hips,
and wiggle a bit and get ready
'Cause this is about to get heavy
I just settled all my lawsuits
**** YOU DEBBIE!""

kettleoffish · 18th Apr 2010, 02:28 PM

F*ck censorship!

Austin · 18th Apr 2010, 03:27 PM

I don't understand how they have any basis to remove words like "fuckin'" over "freakin'"... who says one is worse than the other?

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Anyways, I would rather them not censor out another word (faggot) and just allow whatever the original movie says to be said. Parental block imo.

SlickyPants · 18th Apr 2010, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Shevanel

Omfg I love the fucking Big Lebowski <3 And yes, Censoring CAN have some novelty treasures, such as that. And I think in Die Hard with a Vengeance they change one of Samuel L Jackson's lines from Motherfucker to Melon Farmer, which led the phrase Melon Farmers to be used by Red in Pineapple Express xD

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They just used that one purposely though xD

Melon Farmers, haha.

I'll confess that I've never seen The Big Lewbowski on TV but I bet the censors really had to earn their paycheck for that one. I'm sure it would have been more economical to replace the entire soundtrack with mariachi music.

Shevanel · 18th Apr 2010, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SlickyPants

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Originally Posted by Shevanel

Omfg I love the fucking Big Lebowski <3 And yes, Censoring CAN have some novelty treasures, such as that. And I think in Die Hard with a Vengeance they change one of Samuel L Jackson's lines from Motherfucker to Melon Farmer, which led the phrase Melon Farmers to be used by Red in Pineapple Express xD

They just used that one purposely though xD

Melon Farmers, haha.

I'll confess that I've never seen The Big Lewbowski on TV but I bet the censors really had to earn their paycheck for that one. I'm sure it would have been more economical to replace the entire soundtrack with mariachi music.

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Oh yes.. xD

xequar · 19th Apr 2010, 06:50 AM

For the record, the FCC has ZERO jurisdiction over cable, as that is privately-owned space not broadcast over the air. The FCC has jurisdiction over things broadcast over air, hence broadcast television (which is a very very small portion of television these days), radio, et cetera.

The cable channels that bleep and edit do so according to their own internal policies, which are based on their assessment of who comprises their audiences, whether sponsors and advertisers will want their brand images associated with that particular channel's content, and frankly, whether they think they need to censor stuff to make more money.

17th Apr 2010, 10:01 PM	#1
mj89 Member Regular Member Gender: Female Orientation: Bisexual Out Status: Friends and some family, but not parents Location: Massachusetts Age: 23 Posts: 51 Join Date: Jan 2008	Fcc So I was watching watching The Departed on FX earlier, and I needed to vent. Everything is "FCC friendly." Fucking is replaced with freaking, dipshit was replaced with dipstick, etc. etc. But they just had a scene where faggot was ok. Would they had played n*gger on air? No. Would they say or show tits? No. But somehow saying faggot wasn't offensive? Ugh. And right now I'm watching 8 Mile on TNT (clearly I have no life except watching movies right now) and they clipped out faggot and cut the ex scene. So what makes saying aggot on FX ok, but TNT knows better?

17th Apr 2010, 10:10 PM	#2
starfish This space for lease. Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: I like guys Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Hippie Town, Alberta of the US Age: 31 Posts: 2,108 Join Date: Nov 2008	Re: Fcc To sum it up. FX is more willing to push the boundaries than TNT, but not as much as say HBO or Showtime. __________________ All the problems of the world could be settled easily if men were only willing to think. The trouble is that men very often resort to all sorts of devices in order not to think, because thinking is such hard work. --Thomas J. Watson

17th Apr 2010, 10:16 PM	#3
Shevanel One Is Light. One Is Dark. Full Member Gender: The Dude Orientation: Bi-Winning Out Status: Everybody and Your Mom. Location: Bolivar, Ohio (From NY though) Age: 21 Posts: 7,672 Join Date: Dec 2008	Re: Fcc They probably would've played the N word on FX actually. I've definitely heard it on Network Television before. Bottom line is this: Never watch movies on channels that have commercials. Why? Not ONLY will they edit out anything in an R rated film that makes the film R rated to begin with, but they will also edit out "Unnecessary scenes" to fit into time slots with the commercials. A lot of the time these unnecessary scenes are actually really important, or have a lot of hilarity in them. I've seen it happen too many times and its like film murder. It's horrible. SOME channels aren't too bad to watch films they may be playing on them, like the SciFi channel ( I refuse to type out its new name >_>) and even Comedy Central after a certain time at night. FX is interesting though. They allow "Shit" on the air sometimes. Sometimes not. Even "fuck" I've heard too, but that was probably after dark. It's all very complicated, the FCC and MPAA. Bullshit? Yes. But so is life __________________ If there were no rewards to reap, No loving embrace to see me through this tedious path I've chosen here, I certainly would've walked away by now. Gonna wait it out... Be patient. Last edited by Shevanel; 17th Apr 2010 at 10:20 PM..

17th Apr 2010, 11:04 PM	#4
Nitro Side effects may include AAAAAAAAA! Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay but curious Out Status: A few people Location: Canada Age: 23 Posts: 935 Join Date: Feb 2008	Re: Fcc And here I thought someone was going to complain about the most important thing the US Federal Communications Commission deals with - spectrum management. With the decline of shortwave radio in North America due to the internet and interference from other devices, maybe it would be nice to allow enthusiasts to broadcast on more favourable frequencies. On to your topic … Maybe if people wrote in every time a word was censored to complain instead of the other way around broadcasters and regulators would have more sensible policies. A lobby group wouldn't hurt either. If you are interested in double standards you may enjoy Kirby Dick's documentary on the MPAA. "Horrific deplorable violence is okay, as long as they don't use any dirty words " - Sheila Broflovski __________________ Voici mon secret. Il est très simple: on ne voit bien qu'avec le coeur. L'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux. Le renard - Le Petit Prince

18th Apr 2010, 08:30 AM	#6
Darkwing65 El Comandante Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Bisexualish. Out Status: A few people Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico Age: 24 Posts: 470 Join Date: Oct 2009	Re: Fcc "So the FCC won't let me be or let me be me, so let me see They try to shut me down on MTV But it feels so empty, without me " I couldn't help it. lol __________________ CHALLENGE THE STATUS QUO! ‎"Puede salir cuando quiere, Pero nunca yo partir"

18th Apr 2010, 08:37 AM	#8
Connor22 Stopped being (as) vague Full Member Gender: yes Orientation: up the bender Out Status: burned Narnia :D Location: Norn Iron Age: 17 Posts: 1,547 Join Date: Nov 2009	Re: Fcc ^ you know I was going to post that __________________ Kindness is a gift. Share it.

18th Apr 2010, 08:47 AM	#9
excuseyou77 EC Addict Regular Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: my mom, few friends Location: Duluth, GA Age: 26 Posts: 834 Join Date: Oct 2007	Re: Fcc Ha! That song instantly comes to my head every time the FCC is ever brought up. __________________ "I am human and I need to be loved, just like everybody else does."

18th Apr 2010, 02:28 PM	#13
kettleoffish new avatar time! Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: all but parents.. for now. Location: Scotland Age: 18 Posts: 1,045 Join Date: Feb 2009	Re: Fcc F*ck censorship! __________________ ~~There is no way to peace; peace is the way.~~ --A. J. Muste

19th Apr 2010, 06:50 AM	#17
xequar Diapered and collared! Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: I have "The Gay." :) Out Status: Loud and proud! Location: Detroit area, Michigan Age: 30 Posts: 1,746 Join Date: Mar 2007	Re: Fcc For the record, the FCC has ZERO jurisdiction over cable, as that is privately-owned space not broadcast over the air. The FCC has jurisdiction over things broadcast over air, hence broadcast television (which is a very very small portion of television these days), radio, et cetera. The cable channels that bleep and edit do so according to their own internal policies, which are based on their assessment of who comprises their audiences, whether sponsors and advertisers will want their brand images associated with that particular channel's content, and frankly, whether they think they need to censor stuff to make more money. __________________