The perfect way to stick it to homophobes

[British Lad]

What is the perfect song to stick it to the homophobes and in what context would you used it.
Me If a homophobic christion sayed your going to hell for being gay, i would say "I am on the highway to hell, And I'm going down, all the way down" Quoting from high way to hell by AC/DC That will put them in there place

[Lexington]

Actually, it wouldn't put them in their place at all. They'd either not recognize the song, and thus not get it...or they'd think you're listening to devil music, which would just confirm their suspicions.

The best revenge is a life well-lived. The more kick-ass my life gets, and the nicer I am, the worse they look.

Lex

[Flare]

Lily Allen - F**k You

[Grottodude]

Originally Posted by Lexington

The best revenge is a life well-lived. The more kick-ass my life gets, and the nicer I am, the worse they look.

This. Won't it make them angry when they find out I'm more educated than them, have a loving family and I'm happier than them? Haha! Excellent!

[malachite]

I don't really have any songs to "stick it to them" I usually just use logic to make them look dumb.

Like when they throw the Bible at me, which I love by the way its so much fun, I remind them that Bible says slavery is ok, and that eatting shell fish is a sin, along with red meat, and wearing polyester.

So, prehaps using the word of God to condem people who they love isn't the smartest way to try and take on the gays since God is all about the love and what not.....just saying.

[Connor22]

here's one in rise againsts' black masks and gasoline there's a line

"I have an American dream, but it involves black masks and gasoline"

[D_Alejandro]

Originally Posted by Flare

Lily Allen - F**k You

My thoughts exactly!

[Emberstone]

Originally Posted by Grottodude

This. Won't it make them angry when they find out I'm more educated than them, have a loving family and I'm happier than them? Haha! Excellent!

you just reminded me of a fraiser quote...

they were talking about a opera, and it was like "Yes, Fredrick had his family murdered, and so he took revenge by living better than the king!"

[Beachboi92]

when people are homophobes i act super nice, I will still argue my point without pulling in religion as best i can but always be polite, nice, and generally a good person. Nothing makes them more pissed of than to see what they say has no effect on you. Also for guys who would be assholes i would do subtle hints of flirting at them and they would usually run away haha

[Emberstone]

apperently they did a study recently, and homophobic people tend to be more stimulated arousal wise by gay porn than even gay people...

I think I heard it on a new story about rekers.

[Beachboi92]

^well imo i feel like most homophobes are actually just people who are gay/bi/curious/questioning but don't want to admit it because of fear. They don't want to be stigmatized and they don't want to be the way they are and so they do everything to push away from that including going about things in a way that says gayness is a choice etc etc. we do find so many people who act homophobic that are actually just on the down low and such. I really just feel bad for homophobic people most of the time.

[4 seat]

Originally Posted by Beachboi92

^well imo i feel like most homophobes are actually just people who are gay/bi/curious/questioning but don't want to admit it because of fear. They don't want to be stigmatized and they don't want to be the way they are and so they do everything to push away from that including going about things in a way that says gayness is a choice etc etc. we do find so many people who act homophobic that are actually just on the down low and such. I really just feel bad for homophobic people most of the time.

This is usually true. Think about your own fears. If you're scared of spiders, you hate them, you don't wanna get near them, and if someone says "it's just a little spider, there's nothing to be afraid of", you still say "eff that, it's scary, I'm not getting near it and if it comes near me, I'll kill it". And think how hard it would be, after years of saying you're scared of spiders, you finally get over your fear and say "yeah, spiders actually aren't scary and prob won't kill me, I was wrong". They'll still prob hold onto some facade of hating spiders, just cuz that's what they've been doing for so long. Who wants to admit they're wrong?

[Revan]

I just start using statistics. Some guy was talking about how we're all perverts using bathhouses, and I'm like "only this many gay men actually use bathhouses"

[Lexington]

>>>Like when they throw the Bible at me, which I love by the way its so much fun, I remind them that Bible says slavery is ok, and that eatting shell fish is a sin, along with red meat, and wearing polyester.

This brings up a common trap. Using logic to fight a Christian argument. Because Christianity isn't built on logic - it's built on faith. The fundamental tenet of Christianity is that Jesus is the Messiah prophesied in the Old Testament - that Jesus died for humanity's sins, and was raised from the dead three days later. Even those that believe this with all their heart will admit - this isn't logical. It's the antithesis of logic. But that's what a miracle IS - something utterly illogical happening. And that's why Christians are said to be of the Christian FAITH. It's not something they've logically deduced - it's something they BELIEVE, without having direct emperical evidence. So attacking it with logic is usually doomed to fail. Any steadfast Christian will probably look on arguments like that as similar to Satan tempting Jesus in the desert (Luke 4:1-13, if you like reading up on this sort of thing). By not bending to your argument, they're strengthening their faith.

If I end up arguing with Christians, I usually do so outside the confines of their religion. Basically, I tell them I have no boggle at all with Christianity, and I hope they can live their lives as Jesus tells them to. But all non-Christians shouldn't be made to conform to the Christian way. Even the earliest Christians lived like this - Christianity was for THEM, and they simply wanted the ability to practice their faith, and spread the word. They didn't attempt to force non-Christians to join at the point of the sword. (That came soon afterward.)

Lex

[wherewulfe]

my favorite is "see you on the 5th circle then"

if you dont know the 5th circle is the circle of anger, were those with burning hatreds of others were cast in hell.

[Austin]

Originally Posted by wherewulfe

my favorite is "see you on the 5th circle then"

if you dont know the 5th circle is the circle of anger, were those with burning hatreds of others were cast in hell.

im going to use that now.

i'd go somewhere along the lines of; you could be right, but i think i'll leave the final decision up to God when the time comes...unless of course you think you have better judgment than Him.

[paul 123]

Originally Posted by D_Alejandro

My thoughts exactly!

ahh yer thats perfect

[Owen]

Originally Posted by wherewulfe

my favorite is "see you on the 5th circle then"

if you dont know the 5th circle is the circle of anger, were those with burning hatreds of others were cast in hell.

Actually, the idea of the circles of hell is 100% the creation of the writer Dante Alighieri, who wrote the Divine Comedy, a three-part work in which he detailed his vision of hell, purgatory, and heaven. Inferno (the one about hell) is the most famous part of the trilogy, and it's where most people get their ideas about what hell is like. Thing is, the idea of circles (and most of the ideas in the Inferno, actually) is a creation of Dante's mind; it has no basis in Christian mythology. Thus, I'd imagine a "true" Christian wouldn't believe in Dante's vision of Hell. But hey, maybe I'm wrong.

Originally Posted by paco

i'd go somewhere along the lines of; you could be right, but i think i'll leave the final decision up to God when the time comes...unless of course you think you have better judgment than Him.

That is absolutely fantastic. I'll have to remember that one.

[Davy]

Originally Posted by Lexington

>>>Like when they throw the Bible at me, which I love by the way its so much fun, I remind them that Bible says slavery is ok, and that eatting shell fish is a sin, along with red meat, and wearing polyester.

This brings up a common trap. Using logic to fight a Christian argument. Because Christianity isn't built on logic - it's built on faith. The fundamental tenet of Christianity is that Jesus is the Messiah prophesied in the Old Testament - that Jesus died for humanity's sins, and was raised from the dead three days later. Even those that believe this with all their heart will admit - this isn't logical. It's the antithesis of logic. But that's what a miracle IS - something utterly illogical happening. And that's why Christians are said to be of the Christian FAITH. It's not something they've logically deduced - it's something they BELIEVE, without having direct emperical evidence. So attacking it with logic is usually doomed to fail. Any steadfast Christian will probably look on arguments like that as similar to Satan tempting Jesus in the desert (Luke 4:1-13, if you like reading up on this sort of thing). By not bending to your argument, they're strengthening their faith.

If I end up arguing with Christians, I usually do so outside the confines of their religion. Basically, I tell them I have no boggle at all with Christianity, and I hope they can live their lives as Jesus tells them to. But all non-Christians shouldn't be made to conform to the Christian way. Even the earliest Christians lived like this - Christianity was for THEM, and they simply wanted the ability to practice their faith, and spread the word. They didn't attempt to force non-Christians to join at the point of the sword. (That came soon afterward.)

Lex

Exactly its very hard to argue against faith, after all how can i disprove something that they can't prove. Reminds me of the Bertrand Russell's teapot analogy:

If I were to suggest that between the Earth and Mars there is a china teapot revolving about the sun in an elliptical orbit, nobody would be able to disprove my assertion provided I were careful to add that the teapot is too small to be revealed even by our most powerful telescopes. But if I were to go on to say that, since my assertion cannot be disproved, it is an intolerable presumption on the part of human reason to doubt it, I should rightly be thought to be talking nonsense. If, however, the existence of such a teapot were affirmed in ancient books, taught as the sacred truth every Sunday, and instilled into the minds of children at school, hesitation to believe in its existence would become a mark of eccentricity and entitle the doubter to the attentions of the psychiatrist in an enlightened age or of the Inquisitor in an earlier time. ”


That's an obscure example of faith, but never or less if you believe in the teapot, you believe in it. The same as Jesus or any other religious figure.

i'd go somewhere along the lines of; you could be right, but i think i'll leave the final decision up to God when the time comes...unless of course you think you have better judgment than Him.

That's about the right response, there's no reason to get into an argument and defend yourself when there's no need.