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| EC's Resident Parawhore Full Member ![]() Gender: I have an outie not an innie Orientation: Gay Out Status: I have a walk in closet that I walked out of Location: Red Deer, Alberta Age: 19 Posts: 890 Join Date: May 2010 | Today I met this guy who before even saying hi stared pointing out how ugly I am. I never really cared about it but when someone just immiediatly reacts like that it hurts. I know to some people looks mean alot. To me personally they dont although a certain level of physical attraction is needed for a relationship. What are your opinions?
__________________ There's a Vulture on my shoulder and he's tellin me to give in Always hissin right in my ear like its comin from my own head ![]() Its got me mixed up tryin not to give up tell me there's a way to get out of here |
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| One Is Light. One Is Dark. Full Member ![]() Gender: The Dude Orientation: Bi-Winning Out Status: Everybody and Your Mom. Location: Bolivar, Ohio (From NY though) Age: 21 Posts: 7,672 Join Date: Dec 2008 | That's just fucked up, some sort of inner fight he probably has with his own self image that he probably tries to fix by putting others down so he feels better about himself? Who knows. But I think looks matter to a point. They are most definitely not everything and can be worked around if both parties are willing. But for me, looks are primarily what gets me interested in the person to begin with, mostly however, these looks are things that a person can change, as in it tells me about their personality in a sense? Like their hair. It only makes sense in my mind, however, so don't ask me to explain it xD
__________________ ![]() If there were no rewards to reap, No loving embrace to see me through this tedious path I've chosen here, I certainly would've walked away by now. Gonna wait it out... Be patient. |
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| EC's Resident Parawhore Full Member ![]() Gender: I have an outie not an innie Orientation: Gay Out Status: I have a walk in closet that I walked out of Location: Red Deer, Alberta Age: 19 Posts: 890 Join Date: May 2010 | It honestly hurt alot I neer really cared but this made me cry. for me looks arent important sometimes they are what gets my attention but personality is what keeps me around.
__________________ There's a Vulture on my shoulder and he's tellin me to give in Always hissin right in my ear like its comin from my own head ![]() Its got me mixed up tryin not to give up tell me there's a way to get out of here |
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| One Is Light. One Is Dark. Full Member ![]() Gender: The Dude Orientation: Bi-Winning Out Status: Everybody and Your Mom. Location: Bolivar, Ohio (From NY though) Age: 21 Posts: 7,672 Join Date: Dec 2008 | Well, like I said, the dude must certainly have his own internal struggles if he's easily publicly humiliating someone. Honestly, I kinda feel bad for him, that he's so readily making himself available to be labeled as a total asshole. People just don't understand what they're doing anymore these days... Oh well, for you. Most people go through what you went through though, so try not to feel alone on this, because you're not. It happened to me too.
__________________ ![]() If there were no rewards to reap, No loving embrace to see me through this tedious path I've chosen here, I certainly would've walked away by now. Gonna wait it out... Be patient. |
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| EC's Resident Parawhore Full Member ![]() Gender: I have an outie not an innie Orientation: Gay Out Status: I have a walk in closet that I walked out of Location: Red Deer, Alberta Age: 19 Posts: 890 Join Date: May 2010 | thanks for the hug. I know it happens to other people. I didnt mean to sound like I am the only one tis has happened to and I knew it hurt I just never knew how much.
__________________ There's a Vulture on my shoulder and he's tellin me to give in Always hissin right in my ear like its comin from my own head ![]() Its got me mixed up tryin not to give up tell me there's a way to get out of here |
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| PARAWHORE!!!!!! Full Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: ~I like guys~ Out Status: Everyone, pretty much. Location: Wonderland (and California, USA) Age: 18 Posts: 3,971 Join Date: Oct 2009 | Don't let that jerk get to you!! You're above him!! Looks matter somewhat. I used to be a bit superficial and I only liked super hot guys. But I realized that I have a better chance of lightning striking me then dating a super hot guy. Lol After realizing that, I started paying more attention to guys personalities, rather then looks.
__________________ "THINGS ARE LOOKING UP, OH FINALLY!!" "I believe that there's hope buried beneath it all and...Hiding beneath it all and... GROWING beneath it all!!" -Paramore ...and the lesbians ![]() |
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| EC's Resident Parawhore Full Member ![]() Gender: I have an outie not an innie Orientation: Gay Out Status: I have a walk in closet that I walked out of Location: Red Deer, Alberta Age: 19 Posts: 890 Join Date: May 2010 | I try not to think of myself better then anyone. but thanks.
__________________ There's a Vulture on my shoulder and he's tellin me to give in Always hissin right in my ear like its comin from my own head ![]() Its got me mixed up tryin not to give up tell me there's a way to get out of here |
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| Guest Posts: n/a | It's because you live in Red Deer lol jk jk Yeah, that guy was an asshole, don't mind him. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder... Or however that saying goes. Looks does matter to a certain point but personality matters too. I can think someone is gorgeous and be totally turned off by their personality or vise versa. |
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| EC's Resident Parawhore Full Member ![]() Gender: I have an outie not an innie Orientation: Gay Out Status: I have a walk in closet that I walked out of Location: Red Deer, Alberta Age: 19 Posts: 890 Join Date: May 2010 | wanna fight Mr. Calgary? lol I agree with you
__________________ There's a Vulture on my shoulder and he's tellin me to give in Always hissin right in my ear like its comin from my own head ![]() Its got me mixed up tryin not to give up tell me there's a way to get out of here |
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| EC Addict Full Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Location: Toronto, Canada Age: 22 Posts: 668 Join Date: Nov 2006 | Well, the world is diverse right? Different people tend to look for different things. Some has "physical attractiveness" on their list than the others. I guess we'd just have to try our best to look for people who look for the same things as we do. And in the mean time I guess try our best not to feel hurt when we bump into some others who tend think lesser of us? And Toronto wins btw...
__________________ ![]() "But only in their dreams can man be truly free. 'Twas always thus, and always thus will be." - John Keating, Dead Poets Society |
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| Mad and dead as nails EC Advisor ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Kinsey 5 or 6. It varies Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Alaska Age: 22 Posts: 2,019 Join Date: Mar 2010 | That sort of random comment is among the most crushing out there. I remember feeling similarly when a guy randomly stopped me on a run to berate my clothing. Someone just saying, "Even though I don't know you, I feel qualified both to judge you and to tell you my judgment" is just so beyond acceptable standards that we naturally feel like we must be completely horrible-looking (or dressed in my case). But really, they're just being assholes. I think looks do matter in our choice of partners (I have a friend who believes it affects our choice of friends and, sadly, she's probably right), and moreso than we like to admit. But they're certainly not the only factor. |
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| PARAWHORE!!!!!! Full Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: ~I like guys~ Out Status: Everyone, pretty much. Location: Wonderland (and California, USA) Age: 18 Posts: 3,971 Join Date: Oct 2009 | Yeah, I probably shouldn't have said that. lol But you get my point. Don't let him get to you!! ![]()
__________________ "THINGS ARE LOOKING UP, OH FINALLY!!" "I believe that there's hope buried beneath it all and...Hiding beneath it all and... GROWING beneath it all!!" -Paramore ...and the lesbians ![]() |
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| EC's Resident Parawhore Full Member ![]() Gender: I have an outie not an innie Orientation: Gay Out Status: I have a walk in closet that I walked out of Location: Red Deer, Alberta Age: 19 Posts: 890 Join Date: May 2010 | I got what you were trying to say and it was sweet and I appreciate it
__________________ There's a Vulture on my shoulder and he's tellin me to give in Always hissin right in my ear like its comin from my own head ![]() Its got me mixed up tryin not to give up tell me there's a way to get out of here |
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| EC Addict Full Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Family, friends, and staff! Location: California Age: 21 Posts: 1,139 Join Date: Oct 2008 | I'm pretty sure that we do indeed live in a society that values a certain image of what "beautiful" and "acceptable" are. These idealized images hardly resemble the majority of people. I think it's healthiest to recognize that who we are is much more than our outward appearance. For me, I think that I have a decent physique, but bad complexion. Or at least my complexion was really bad in high school, and I have the scars to prove it. How much does that say about who I am, other than what I see when I look in the mirror? For one thing, other people see totally different things when they look at me, like my chin cleft or broad shoulders or expressive eyebrows. Other people might think I have bad posture or funny ears. Some people don't even notice that I'm left-handed for months, yet I am reminded every day when I sit at those right-handed desks. No one notices the exact same things when they look at a person, and they certainly don't all feel the same way about the same features. For another thing, people who get to know me will have a lot more to say about me than someone who has only seen me. Like how I can sing really well, or how I don't like shouting, or how I'm shy, or fake, or whatever it is that people learn from interacting with me. People are not just attracted to someone's appearance. There's also having similar interests and having a sense of humor. That's why people talk during dates instead of just staring at each other. And lastly, whatever other people may think of you, it is never as important as what you see in yourself. People can call you ugly all day long, and it won't matter until you start to believe what they say. It's totally normal to feel hurt sometimes by what other people say about us, but a good form of resistance is to remind yourself that they don't know you as well as you know yourself, or that they're just projecting their insecurities on you so they don't have to deal with their own problems. If someone starts a conversation with "Wow, you're ugly," some good responses would be: "Wow, you're blind!" "Ouch." "You're welcome?" "If I'm not your taste, go lick someone else."
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| PARAWHORE!!!!!! Full Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: ~I like guys~ Out Status: Everyone, pretty much. Location: Wonderland (and California, USA) Age: 18 Posts: 3,971 Join Date: Oct 2009 | ^loved the last two.
__________________ "THINGS ARE LOOKING UP, OH FINALLY!!" "I believe that there's hope buried beneath it all and...Hiding beneath it all and... GROWING beneath it all!!" -Paramore ...and the lesbians ![]() |
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| EC's realist Full Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Orlando Posts: 6,480 Join Date: Apr 2009 | we like to think that looks aren't a big deal, but the truth is they are. That guy is a dick and has no excuse for actting that way.
__________________ It's the 21st century, your bigotry is outdated. Either upgrade or go away. |
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| eats crayons and shits rainbows. Full Member ![]() Gender: Female Orientation: Lesbian Out Status: Friends! Location: Croatia Age: 18 Posts: 490 Join Date: Dec 2009 | People like that guy have the urge to make someone feel bad in order to make themselves feel better. Looks matter just as much as the first impression, and that guy failed. |
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| Well Known Full Member ![]() Gender: Female Orientation: Lezbot! Out Status: I was never "in". I just don't like people knowing Location: Ireland Posts: 172 Join Date: Dec 2009 | That guy was either jealous or insecure, or both. One thing's for sure though.. He's a DOUCHE! XD I usually don't fall for people because of their looks, but I wouldn't be able to fall for somebody I didn't find physically attractive.
__________________ "The finest qualities of our nature, like the bloom on fruits, can be preserved only by the most delicate handling. Yet we do not treat ourselves nor one another thus tenderly." - Henry David Thoreau |
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| Guest Posts: n/a | Whoever did that to you is clearly not worthy of your time. While you said it yourself, attractiveness isn't such a big deal for you, but you also said that a certain level of attraction is needed for a relationship. You just need to find someone who likes you for who you are and that person who flat-out insulted you, is completely shallow. |
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| The gay gargoyle EC Advisor Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Colorado Age: 42 Posts: 12,371 Join Date: Dec 2007 | I met my partner online. And this was before webcams and even before "e-mail me your picture" was something available to the general public. We eventually moved from computer to phone, but again, nothing visual. And I was already pretty sure I was interested in him before I ever saw what he looked like. When I finally did see him, it did nothing more than give me a visual representation to go along with the person I had already developed an interest in. So I can very firmly state that looks don't matter much to me. My personal experience is that looks can be a boon (or a handicap). An attractive guy can get somebody interested from across the room, which is something an average guy won't be able to do. This doesn't mean they're destined to live alone, though. They just have to get people interested the slow way - they have to interact with them, form a bond, and eventually they'll notice "Hey, this guy is pretty cool". ![]() Lex |
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