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girlxmenkz · 12th Oct 2010, 08:06 AM

this is my last year in school so I'm trying to get everything I need in so far I have been doing really well but some people are trying to get me kick out none of them like me but i don't care about that it's when they bring up me being Bi, Wiccan, and a Juggalette they make fun of me and try to fight me but what really got me mad was when they brunt a cross in my yard put the word FAG on my locker and messed with my books for class putting things like YOU WILL BRUN IN HELL and WE HOPE YOU DIE Im trying my best to keep my cool but One day i will snap and go off I just don't know what to do

**Lexington** · 12th Oct 2010, 08:19 AM

Have you brought any of this up to the school? Because they're not supposed to sit idly by while this stuff takes place...

Lex

malachite · 12th Oct 2010, 08:29 AM

those are hate crimes, and THEY will being kicked out of school for them, not you.

12th Oct 2010, 10:34 AM

Is being a fan of ICP really not worth the teasing though? I mean, you heard they were actually evangelical Christians, right? I'll chalk it up to an angsty teen phase.

As for your other problems (aside from poor musical taste), I echo what others have said. Alert teachers/parents/other authority type figures. They should be able to protect you and reduce the bullying you are experiencing. And when you are faced with with the nasty messages and hateful talk, perhaps if no one listens and nothing is done about it, go to the press. Do an interview with a newspaper and don't be afraid to name names. Journalists eat conflict like this for breakfast and they would be more than happy to expose the school for ignoring the issue.

girlxmenkz · 12th Oct 2010, 03:45 PM

i have told a teacher and they talk to them and my mom too but i don't understan why cant they just be happy with who i am

**Lexington** · 12th Oct 2010, 04:19 PM

>>>i have told a teacher and they talk to them and my mom too but i don't understan why cant they just be happy with who i am

Because they're teenagers. And as such, they're insecure. About who they are and what they are. All teens are, to some degree. And there's obviously nothing wrong with that. However, rather than simply accept that condition, and work on finding who they are...they find it easier to overpower their insecurities by harassing other students. In that "well, at least I'm not a freak like HER" sort of way. Because most people don't care if you're bi or Wiccan or anything else. It's the people who feel threatened by what you are and what you do who feel the need to lash out. Rather than work on feeling more comfortable with themselves, they try to push away the thing that makes them uncomfortable. And in this case, that's you.

How you react to their moves will help determine how they react in the future. If you stand your ground, if you keep your emotions in check, if you simply report what they did but don't back down from who and what you are...this highlights what's going on. THEY're the ones acting in an immature way. If you get overly emotional and try lashing back at them, it suggests that you're as insecure in your persona as they are in theirs. And that's not the message you want to send, because it'll encourage them to continue. By remaining as stoic as possible, you're sending a huge metaphorical "fuck you" to them.

Lex

Emberstone · 12th Oct 2010, 04:51 PM

thats why we have the ACLU. document it, contact your local office, and set a lawyer on them.

djt820 · 12th Oct 2010, 06:00 PM

Picking on people. Fucking miracles.

Geoffboyardee · 12th Oct 2010, 08:30 PM

Oh god, I'm really sorry. I don't mean to be giving pity but this is something that I'm afraid of happening to me. I would also like advice on how to deal with this.

12th Oct 2010, 08:06 AM	#1
girlxmenkz <3 KAIT <3 Regular Member Gender: Female Orientation: Bisexual Out Status: Out to everyone Location: goshen Age: 19 Posts: 16 Join Date: Sep 2010	can this really be happing? this is my last year in school so I'm trying to get everything I need in so far I have been doing really well but some people are trying to get me kick out none of them like me but i don't care about that it's when they bring up me being Bi, Wiccan, and a Juggalette they make fun of me and try to fight me but what really got me mad was when they brunt a cross in my yard put the word FAG on my locker and messed with my books for class putting things like YOU WILL BRUN IN HELL and WE HOPE YOU DIE Im trying my best to keep my cool but One day i will snap and go off I just don't know what to do

12th Oct 2010, 08:19 AM	#2
Lexington The gay gargoyle EC Advisor Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Colorado Age: 42 Posts: 12,371 Join Date: Dec 2007	Re: can this really be happing? Have you brought any of this up to the school? Because they're not supposed to sit idly by while this stuff takes place... Lex

12th Oct 2010, 08:29 AM	#3
malachite EC's realist Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Orlando Posts: 6,480 Join Date: Apr 2009	Re: can this really be happing? those are hate crimes, and THEY will being kicked out of school for them, not you. __________________ It's the 21st century, your bigotry is outdated. Either upgrade or go away.

12th Oct 2010, 10:34 AM	#4
Numfarh Guest Posts: n/a	Re: can this really be happing? Is being a fan of ICP really not worth the teasing though? I mean, you heard they were actually evangelical Christians, right? I'll chalk it up to an angsty teen phase. As for your other problems (aside from poor musical taste), I echo what others have said. Alert teachers/parents/other authority type figures. They should be able to protect you and reduce the bullying you are experiencing. And when you are faced with with the nasty messages and hateful talk, perhaps if no one listens and nothing is done about it, go to the press. Do an interview with a newspaper and don't be afraid to name names. Journalists eat conflict like this for breakfast and they would be more than happy to expose the school for ignoring the issue.

12th Oct 2010, 03:45 PM	#5
girlxmenkz <3 KAIT <3 Regular Member Gender: Female Orientation: Bisexual Out Status: Out to everyone Location: goshen Age: 19 Posts: 16 Join Date: Sep 2010	Re: can this really be happing? i have told a teacher and they talk to them and my mom too but i don't understan why cant they just be happy with who i am

12th Oct 2010, 04:19 PM	#6
Lexington The gay gargoyle EC Advisor Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Colorado Age: 42 Posts: 12,371 Join Date: Dec 2007	Re: can this really be happing? >>>i have told a teacher and they talk to them and my mom too but i don't understan why cant they just be happy with who i am Because they're teenagers. And as such, they're insecure. About who they are and what they are. All teens are, to some degree. And there's obviously nothing wrong with that. However, rather than simply accept that condition, and work on finding who they are...they find it easier to overpower their insecurities by harassing other students. In that "well, at least I'm not a freak like HER" sort of way. Because most people don't care if you're bi or Wiccan or anything else. It's the people who feel threatened by what you are and what you do who feel the need to lash out. Rather than work on feeling more comfortable with themselves, they try to push away the thing that makes them uncomfortable. And in this case, that's you. How you react to their moves will help determine how they react in the future. If you stand your ground, if you keep your emotions in check, if you simply report what they did but don't back down from who and what you are...this highlights what's going on. THEY're the ones acting in an immature way. If you get overly emotional and try lashing back at them, it suggests that you're as insecure in your persona as they are in theirs. And that's not the message you want to send, because it'll encourage them to continue. By remaining as stoic as possible, you're sending a huge metaphorical "fuck you" to them. Lex

12th Oct 2010, 04:51 PM	#7
Emberstone Flappychap Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Oregon, USA Age: 28 Posts: 5,593 Join Date: May 2008	Re: can this really be happing? thats why we have the ACLU. document it, contact your local office, and set a lawyer on them.

12th Oct 2010, 06:00 PM	#8
djt820 Brutally Honest Regular Member Gender: Male Orientation: DICKS EVERYWHERE Out Status: Like A Cock Slapping Your Face Kind-of Out. Location: SoCal Age: 19 Posts: 1,282 Join Date: Feb 2009	Re: can this really be happing? Picking on people. Fucking miracles. __________________

12th Oct 2010, 08:30 PM	#9
Geoffboyardee Member Regular Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: A few people Location: San Diego Age: 16 Posts: 16 Join Date: Oct 2010	Re: can this really be happing? Oh god, I'm really sorry. I don't mean to be giving pity but this is something that I'm afraid of happening to me. I would also like advice on how to deal with this.