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**Chip** · 20th Nov 2010, 01:29 AM

I've been reading about this scandal for a week or two now, but just came across this video .

For those who are unaware, 200+ students in a class of 500 (a capstone business class) were found to have cheated on a midterm exam. The professor knows his stats and analysis and was able to identify the students who cheated based on their test scores and other factors.

He offered them the option of turning themselves in, taking an ethics course, and retaking the test... or not turning themselves in and being identified by the school and likely kicked out entirely. Over 200 students turned themselves in.

It's sad but not the least bit surprising in business schools. The cheating problem is simply out of control and it seems that a lot of students seem to think there's nothing wrong with cheating on exams.

fragomatrick · 20th Nov 2010, 05:13 AM

In my college, you can pay the invigilator to let you cheat in the exams.
Nobody does anything about it.
In fact, chances are that if you take the matter to the principal, you will be kicked out of the college!
So yeah, you have to cheat in the examinations.

20th Nov 2010, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by fragomatrick

So yeah, you have to cheat in the examinations.

Um, no you don't. Nothing makes you cheat. No one is holding a gun up to your head saying "CHEAT!"

Cheating is only for lazy people. Or for people who just plain forgot about the assignment.

I don't see anything wrong with cheating on homework, as long as you make an effort to go back and try to understand what someone else did. But if you just take it and do nothing then that's not okay.

And I don't think you should ever cheat on a test. The point of a test is to test you. If you cheat, that because pointless.

**Chip** · 20th Nov 2010, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fragomatrick

In my college, you can pay the invigilator to let you cheat in the exams.
Nobody does anything about it.
In fact, chances are that if you take the matter to the principal, you will be kicked out of the college!
So yeah, you have to cheat in the examinations.

If this were in the US, and really is as you said, I'd report the school to the accrediting authority, because the invigilator AND the principal should be fired. If it's in another country where everything is corrupt well... I guess there isn't much you can do about it.

But I agree with Steven. There's *never* a justification to cheat, if you give a shit about your own integrity.

Revan · 21st Nov 2010, 12:44 PM

Umm did anyone else see the fact fragmatrick was being sarcastic? Or am I the only one who took it as sarcastic?

**Chip** · 21st Nov 2010, 04:00 PM

I didn't take it that way, and having just read a book on the epidemic of cheating and lack of integrity in US society (not just in schools but almost everywhere), I took what he said at face value because apparently stuff like that happens as a matter of routine in a lot of places, though usually not quite that blatantly.

21st Nov 2010, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Revan

Umm did anyone else see the fact fragmatrick was being sarcastic? Or am I the only one who took it as sarcastic?

Seeing how it's not far fetched at all, I don't see why anyone would without any reasons.

Shevanel · 21st Nov 2010, 06:25 PM

If I'm not mistaken, Fragomatic is not from America?

I could also be horribly wrong, but that was the impression I had attained before.

21st Nov 2010, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shevanel

If I'm not mistaken, Fragomatic is not from America?

I could also be horribly wrong, but that was the impression I had attained before.

Without a listed location no one can know that unless they were told before/they had it before.

Shevanel · 21st Nov 2010, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Steven

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shevanel

If I'm not mistaken, Fragomatic is not from America?

I could also be horribly wrong, but that was the impression I had attained before.

Without a listed location no one can know that unless they were told before/they had it before.

Kudos you! You pointed out the obvious

I was obviously inferring that he had mentioned it before.

21st Nov 2010, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Shevanel

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shevanel

If I'm not mistaken, Fragomatic is not from America?

I could also be horribly wrong, but that was the impression I had attained before.

Without a listed location no one can know that unless they were told before/they had it before.

Kudos you! You pointed out the obvious

I was obviously inferring that he had mentioned it before.

And kudos to you too on doing the same. ^_^

**Chip** · 21st Nov 2010, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shevanel

If I'm not mistaken, Fragomatic is not from America?

I could also be horribly wrong, but that was the impression I had attained before.

I inferred the same thing, given that "invigilator" is not a commonly used word in the US.

fragomatrick · 22nd Nov 2010, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revan

Umm did anyone else see the fact fragmatrick was being sarcastic? Or am I the only one who took it as sarcastic?

THANK YOU!
I WAS BEING SARCASTIC!

I have exams approaching and my friends are busy, micro printing the entire fucking syllabus ...micro printing-reducing the size of a page to one tenths of the original so they become easy to carry in the examination hall !
So, when I read this article here, I thought I would let out my feelings!

But, I don' get into serious discussions.
I have enough seriousness around me as it is...!
I don't look forward to debating here..
Simply because I CAN KICK ANYBODY'S ASS!

(I was being sarcastic, thank you..REVAN for noticing it again!)

**Lexington** · 22nd Nov 2010, 01:48 PM

And the other 300 didn't get caught.

Lex

**Chip** · 22nd Nov 2010, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Lexington

And the other 300 didn't get caught.

Lex

If you read the article, the professor did some very sophisticated statistical analysis looking at answer patterns and such and was able to determine exactly who cheated based on how the questions were answered, overall scores, etc. So no, I don't think everyone cheated. At least, one can hope.

Z3ni · 22nd Nov 2010, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fragomatrick

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revan

Umm did anyone else see the fact fragmatrick was being sarcastic? Or am I the only one who took it as sarcastic?

THANK YOU!
I WAS BEING SARCASTIC!

I have exams approaching and my friends are busy, micro printing the entire fucking syllabus ...micro printing-reducing the size of a page to one tenths of the original so they become easy to carry in the examination hall !
So, when I read this article here, I thought I would let out my feelings!

But, I don' get into serious discussions.
I have enough seriousness around me as it is...!
I don't look forward to debating here..
Simply because I CAN KICK ANYBODY'S ASS!

(I was being sarcastic, thank you..REVAN for noticing it again!)

Yeah its hard to see sarcasm through typing lol, unless you type with expression like THISSS!

fragomatrick · 22nd Nov 2010, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z3ni

Quote:

Originally Posted by fragomatrick

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revan

Umm did anyone else see the fact fragmatrick was being sarcastic? Or am I the only one who took it as sarcastic?

THANK YOU!
I WAS BEING SARCASTIC!

I have exams approaching and my friends are busy, micro printing the entire fucking syllabus ...micro printing-reducing the size of a page to one tenths of the original so they become easy to carry in the examination hall !
So, when I read this article here, I thought I would let out my feelings!

But, I don' get into serious discussions.
I have enough seriousness around me as it is...!
I don't look forward to debating here..
Simply because I CAN KICK ANYBODY'S ASS!

(I was again, being sarcastic, thank you..REVAN for noticing it again!)

Yeah its hard to see sarcasm through typing lol, unless you type with expression like THISSS!

OOOooooooookkkkkkkkkkaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!

20th Nov 2010, 01:29 AM	#1
Chip EC Advisor EC Admin Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: northern CA Posts: 5,579 Join Date: May 2008	200 students at U of Central Florida caught cheating I've been reading about this scandal for a week or two now, but just came across this video . For those who are unaware, 200+ students in a class of 500 (a capstone business class) were found to have cheated on a midterm exam. The professor knows his stats and analysis and was able to identify the students who cheated based on their test scores and other factors. He offered them the option of turning themselves in, taking an ethics course, and retaking the test... or not turning themselves in and being identified by the school and likely kicked out entirely. Over 200 students turned themselves in. It's sad but not the least bit surprising in business schools. The cheating problem is simply out of control and it seems that a lot of students seem to think there's nothing wrong with cheating on exams.

20th Nov 2010, 05:13 AM	#2
fragomatrick Perpetually Bored! Regular Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Some people Age: 21 Posts: 732 Join Date: Jan 2010	Re: 200 students at U of Central Florida caught cheating In my college, you can pay the invigilator to let you cheat in the exams. Nobody does anything about it. In fact, chances are that if you take the matter to the principal, you will be kicked out of the college! So yeah, you have to cheat in the examinations. __________________ The man who smiles when things go wrong has thought of someone to blame it on. - Robert Bloch

21st Nov 2010, 12:44 PM	#5
Revan EC Addict Full Member Gender: M for MEEP! Orientation: Mutant and Proud Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Windsor, Ontario Age: 24 Posts: 6,564 Join Date: Jun 2005	Re: 200 students at U of Central Florida caught cheating Umm did anyone else see the fact fragmatrick was being sarcastic? Or am I the only one who took it as sarcastic? __________________ "Is there some reason my coffee isn't here? Has she died or something?" - Miranda Priestly. Strength is not defined by physical capacity, but by indomitable will. ~ Mahatma Gandhi Procrastination is like masturbation, in the end you just wind up screwing yourself.

21st Nov 2010, 04:00 PM	#6
Chip EC Advisor EC Admin Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: northern CA Posts: 5,579 Join Date: May 2008	Re: 200 students at U of Central Florida caught cheating I didn't take it that way, and having just read a book on the epidemic of cheating and lack of integrity in US society (not just in schools but almost everywhere), I took what he said at face value because apparently stuff like that happens as a matter of routine in a lot of places, though usually not quite that blatantly.

21st Nov 2010, 06:25 PM	#8
Shevanel One Is Light. One Is Dark. Full Member Gender: The Dude Orientation: Bi-Winning Out Status: Everybody and Your Mom. Location: Bolivar, Ohio (From NY though) Age: 21 Posts: 7,672 Join Date: Dec 2008	Re: 200 students at U of Central Florida caught cheating If I'm not mistaken, Fragomatic is not from America? I could also be horribly wrong, but that was the impression I had attained before. __________________ If there were no rewards to reap, No loving embrace to see me through this tedious path I've chosen here, I certainly would've walked away by now. Gonna wait it out... Be patient. Last edited by Shevanel; 21st Nov 2010 at 06:32 PM..

22nd Nov 2010, 01:48 PM	#14
Lexington The gay gargoyle EC Advisor Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Colorado Age: 42 Posts: 12,371 Join Date: Dec 2007	Re: 200 students at U of Central Florida caught cheating And the other 300 didn't get caught. Lex

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