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Being Gay & Being Catholic

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by Tim C, Oct 25, 2007.

  1. Tim C

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    It's a matter of Roman Catholic doctrine that Jesus Christ was an acceptable sacrifice for the sins of all people who live a committed life in serving him. It is taught that Christ brought grace into the world- that grace has the redemptive power to take away our sins permanently and put us in harmony with God forever. We do not have to be perfect or sinless to be in this state of grace. There is no doubt that the Church teaches that grace is large enough to forgive even grievous sins.

    The Roman Catholic Church teaches that being actively gay is a sin. But it also teaches that masturbation is a sin. It used to teach that eating meat on Friday was a sin. So sin is definitely a forgiveable offense. According to Roman Catholic doctrine, there are two types of actual sin: mortal sin and venial sin. A mortal sin is a grievous sin that takes away saving grace. A venial sin is a lesser sin that lessens our closeness to God.

    The Roman Catholic Church further adds that our intentions play an important role in whether something is a sin and whether that sin is mortal or venial. Our laws somewhat mirror the postion of the Church on that- whether we kill somebody in 1st degree or 2nd degree makes no difference in how dead they are. But sentencing is much harsher if it's believed that a person intended from the beginning to kill another person.

    So if your attitude is, "I know being gay is wrong and that it offends God but I'm going to do it anyway" that falls into the category of sin. If your attitude is, " I know what the Church teaches and I respect that but I see it as being a reflection of who I am and see no wrong in it for me" I would seriously doubt there's any sin involved at all.

    The Church believes that it has the right to speak for God in generally condemning certain actions. It believes it can say that homosexuality as a general rule defies the will of God. But... and this is very important... if you honestly and sincerely see no wrong in something- your individual conscience- through grace- absolves you of any punishment from God.

    Why would God punish somebody for doing something they see no wrong in and-- very important-- that doesn't hurt anybody?

    Our society (mostly through the church) is wonderful at creating guilt and shame in people as it relates to their sexuality. But unless that shame is an inward feeling where one truly believes they're doing wrong- there's no guilt associated with the sin. In other words, unless you really believe your homosexuality is a terrible wrong- your continuing to be gay would be no more grievous than occasionally lying.

    For those of you who are single, safe sex homosexual acts are less likely to be sinful because they don't go against an oath that you took or cause you to be cheating on a spouse.

    The secret to being Catholic and gay is to come to terms with it yourself. Don't do things you know to be wrong. Continue your walk with Christ with the same sincerity and genuineness you've always had. Don't let the judgments of others effect your faith.

    I'm not sure I've explained this very well and I'm quite positive that not all Catholic theologians accept this particular interpretation. But...this is a postion that is held by some Catholic theologians and one that makes sense to me.

    Tim
     
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    I don't know much about the roman catholic religion but here is my opinion on religion and this is only my opinion, feel free to disagree:

    I used to be one of those people who went to church every sunday and not because I had to but because I wanted to I eventually stopped because I got tired of hearing that I was going to hell. Over time I have developed my own way of thinking when it comes to religion. The bible was written by man and has been translated over and over again over a long period of time and so I'm sure over time it has changed. I do believe that there is a God I just don't see how we could be here if there was no god all of you can throw all the science in the world at me to try to make me change my mind but it won't work

    However how could a god make something and then condemn it? He can't (unless of course you did something really bad) its as simple as that like I said the bible was written by man how are we to know if the bible really is the word of god and who's to say if christianity is the truth or not. I believe that if I'm a good person then the afterlife will be pleasant. I believe there is a higher power but as far as a book or any other thing that says god says this and that I'm not sure about that.
     
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    "Why would God punish somebody for doing something they see no wrong in and-- very important-- that doesn't hurt anybody?"
    I never thought of that...... that actualy makes me think that i could be religious cause at the moment i am undecided on god and stuff and i dont want to make a desition untill i have like done more reserch into god and stuff.....
    But that is realy your opinion not the opinion of the catholic church or the people who are in it i have a teacher that belives being gay is a choice and they dont belong...
     
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    im gay and catholic and it works out fine 4 me and the people ive come out to are all catholics and ther are fine with me being gay. the first guy i came out to hes very catholic and he tried to get me to go and make out with this guy i liked at the time.