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roborama · 28th Mar 2011, 03:16 PM

so this still new to me but i just found out that this is how one of my best friends identifies. one day shes in pink and short shorts with jewlery and everything and the next shes (well i guess he really) in a mans striped polo, baggy pants , no makeup ect. at the conference i was just at we watched a video on it and it was fasinating and at goodwill today she was in both sections. its not that she is just butch or something or just creative with clothes. she is a girl one day and hes a boy the next. it seems so difficult to deal with

anybody know anything more about this? im going to try to find that video

Zontar · 28th Mar 2011, 04:41 PM

I'd say it's just a form of gender-atyical expression. Some people just like to play games with gender expression, myself included. I wouldn't call it "bi-gender" in the sense of having two gender identities though...more like a mode of self-expression.

Kanen · 28th Mar 2011, 05:30 PM

Or, possibly it's Multiple Personality Disorder? It might not be just changing genders, but changing people? I don't know, that was only a thought.

Zontar · 28th Mar 2011, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Kanen

Or, possibly it's Multiple Personality Disorder? It might not be just changing genders, but changing people? I don't know, that was only a thought.

I highly doubt that it is dissociative identity disorder.

roborama · 28th Mar 2011, 06:13 PM

theres not much on it, god i wish i could find that video. but it really isnt playing games, thats really what its called. it confuses me too though

Darkwing65 · 28th Mar 2011, 07:34 PM

I think the word you're looking for is not bi but maybe genderqueer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genderqueer

roborama · 28th Mar 2011, 07:50 PM

nope bigendered, you can look that one up on wiki too (not like its very accurate just an fyi)

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+ YouTube Video

not the one im looking for but still

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its not the same as androgony, its two seprerate gender identities with one personality (usually) they identify as a male and then they identify as a female. not at the same time

starfish · 28th Mar 2011, 08:50 PM

Holy crap. That's me, that's who I am. I have been looking for the words to describe myself and I never could find them.

I always viewed gender identity as binary and it was so freaking confusing. Some days I feel man and other days I feel like a woman. Some days those feelings are really strong and some days I'm indifferent to it. Being transgendered did not make since because I don't feel like a girl full time, being a cross dresser did not make much since either.

Wow, I never even considered this possibility. This explains so much all those feelings I could not reconcile. Wow this is just great.

**Meropspusillus** · 28th Mar 2011, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Zontar

I'd say it's just a form of gender-atyical expression. Some people just like to play games with gender expression, myself included. I wouldn't call it "bi-gender" in the sense of having two gender identities though...more like a mode of self-expression.

Hardly, someone can dress as female without identifying as female, and someone can dress in jeans and a t-shirt every day and still identify with a different gender each day.

This does just make me think of how labels are dumb though. Bi-gender just feels like bad nomenclature: bi means both, not either/or. Bisexuals aren't attracted to men one day and women the next...Whatever, what do words really mean anyways?

It makes me happy when people are comfortable in their gender and sexual identities =D.

roborama · 29th Mar 2011, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by starfish

Holy crap. That's me, that's who I am. I have been looking for the words to describe myself and I never could find them.

I always viewed gender identity as binary and it was so freaking confusing. Some days I feel man and other days I feel like a woman. Some days those feelings are really strong and some days I'm indifferent to it. Being transgendered did not make since because I don't feel like a girl full time, being a cross dresser did not make much since either.

Wow, I never even considered this possibility. This explains so much all those feelings I could not reconcile. Wow this is just great.

im really actually excited that this couldve helped someone

i know theres not a lot of resources on it but the person in the video and my friend are so i guess its not that massively rare. good luck with everything!

---------- Post added 29th Mar 2011 at 05:14 PM ----------

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Originally Posted by Baeolophusbicolor

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Originally Posted by Zontar

I'd say it's just a form of gender-atyical expression. Some people just like to play games with gender expression, myself included. I wouldn't call it "bi-gender" in the sense of having two gender identities though...more like a mode of self-expression.

Hardly, someone can dress as female without identifying as female, and someone can dress in jeans and a t-shirt every day and still identify with a different gender each day.

This does just make me think of how labels are dumb though. Bi-gender just feels like bad nomenclature: bi means both, not either/or. Bisexuals aren't attracted to men one day and women the next...Whatever, what do words really mean anyways?

It makes me happy when people are comfortable in their gender and sexual identities =D.

yes the name does kind of suck but what word really would explain that? labels are yucky!! (ie i agree with you)

28th Mar 2011, 03:16 PM	#1
roborama EC's Teenage Grandma Full Member Gender: Female Orientation: Fluid Out Status: Out to everyone Location: MA Age: 17 Posts: 397 Join Date: Jan 2011	Bi-gender so this still new to me but i just found out that this is how one of my best friends identifies. one day shes in pink and short shorts with jewlery and everything and the next shes (well i guess he really) in a mans striped polo, baggy pants , no makeup ect. at the conference i was just at we watched a video on it and it was fasinating and at goodwill today she was in both sections. its not that she is just butch or something or just creative with clothes. she is a girl one day and hes a boy the next. it seems so difficult to deal with anybody know anything more about this? im going to try to find that video __________________ Never be bullied into silence. Never allow yourself to be made a victim. Accept no one's definition of your life; define yourself. Harvey Fierstein

28th Mar 2011, 04:41 PM	#2
Zontar Mister Funny Man Full Member Gender: Male Location: Binghampton, NY Posts: 1,535 Join Date: Oct 2010	Re: Bi-gender I'd say it's just a form of gender-atyical expression. Some people just like to play games with gender expression, myself included. I wouldn't call it "bi-gender" in the sense of having two gender identities though...more like a mode of self-expression. __________________ Get up and open your eyes...Don't ever let yourself ever fall down... Get through it and learn how to fly...I know you'll find a way...today. -Days of the New, "Dirty Road"

28th Mar 2011, 05:30 PM	#3
Kanen Fkin' Perfect Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Texas Age: 16 Posts: 189 Join Date:** Mar 2011	Re: Bi-gender Or, possibly it's Multiple Personality Disorder? It might not be just changing genders, but changing people? I don't know, that was only a thought. __________________ "The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, but in ourselves, that we are underlings." Julius Caesar -William Shakespeare

28th Mar 2011, 06:13 PM	#5
roborama EC's Teenage Grandma Full Member Gender: Female Orientation: Fluid Out Status: Out to everyone Location: MA Age: 17 Posts: 397 Join Date: Jan 2011	Re: Bi-gender theres not much on it, god i wish i could find that video. but it really isnt playing games, thats really what its called. it confuses me too though __________________ Never be bullied into silence. Never allow yourself to be made a victim. Accept no one's definition of your life; define yourself. Harvey Fierstein

28th Mar 2011, 07:34 PM	#6
Darkwing65 El Comandante Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Bisexualish. Out Status: A few people Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico Age: 24 Posts: 470 Join Date: Oct 2009	Re: Bi-gender I think the word you're looking for is not bi but maybe genderqueer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genderqueer __________________ CHALLENGE THE STATUS QUO! ‎"Puede salir cuando quiere, Pero nunca yo partir"

28th Mar 2011, 08:50 PM	#8
starfish This space for lease. Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: I like guys Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Hippie Town, Alberta of the US Age: 31 Posts: 2,108 Join Date: Nov 2008	Re: Bi-gender Holy crap. That's me, that's who I am. I have been looking for the words to describe myself and I never could find them. I always viewed gender identity as binary and it was so freaking confusing. Some days I feel man and other days I feel like a woman. Some days those feelings are really strong and some days I'm indifferent to it. Being transgendered did not make since because I don't feel like a girl full time, being a cross dresser did not make much since either. Wow, I never even considered this possibility. This explains so much all those feelings I could not reconcile. Wow this is just great. __________________ All the problems of the world could be settled easily if men were only willing to think. The trouble is that men very often resort to all sorts of devices in order not to think, because thinking is such hard work. --Thomas J. Watson

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