SEX TALK:Bug Chasers/Gift givers (please read)!!!!!!!!!

.... Thats why theres so many BB videos.. I bet its all the horny guys!! *Raises Pitch fork*

 

That is horrible! Uhh now I have to think about this for the rest of the night! Who in the hell would do that? Man if I found out I was lied to like that, man would I be pissed. Trust me, you do not what to see me pissed. God, how could people do that?!?!

How big was this community you found btw? Was it a very big community or small? Damn that creepy, you gotta feel bad for that kid too. Very informing post, i would have to agree with you. This is the kind of crap they need to teach in the sex ed class. But hey I received my sexual education from a private school :dry: (I won't even start my rant on that one lol) Anyhow that is one messed up fetish...

 

I thought knowingly giving HIV was a crime. . . Maybe I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure I heard that somewhere, but I'm not entirely sure.

Even if it's not, that's pretty messed up. The people that do that are evil and despicable. If there isn't anything legally that can be done about these people there should be.

I guess that's why you have to be careful about who you meet up with. You never know how crazy someone's going to be. Oh and always bring condoms.

Jesus. I still can't get over how effed up that is.

 

Mmhm, it's illegal.

I went to a gay club last year and the bug chasing symbol was being flashed onto the wall, which was kind of creepy. But yeah, be careful of who you knock around with.

 

Fuck! I ain't losing my shit to no one! No one can be trusted!!!!:tantrum:

Ok a bit of exaggeration

 

Its a pretty interesting documentary. Not the best, but still worth the watch.

Its ridiculous to think how people can think like this, but its the reason why you should ALWAYS be careful. There are crazy people out there. NEVER go bareback. You just can't know 100% if the person you are with is HIV-

 

Intentionally giving someone HIV without letting them know is indeed a crime in Canada.

However, I have nothing against the bug chasers who want to get HIV. It's their life.

 

Well at least it is not that big, still though pretty effed up. Would make an interesting paper I would think. Thanks for posting the info up!

 

I have to respectfully disagree. This is one of those things that, just by consenting to it, proves that people are not mentally fit to make such a decision, even if by the legal definition those people are still considered sane.

 

That phrasing reminded me of Catch-22.

This whole thing is highly disturbing and is yet another reason to only have safe sex.

 

I like that you respectually disagree

Perhaps your judgement comes from the assumption that life should be EVERYBODY'S ultimate priority, and that anybody who is willing to jeapordise his or her life should be considered unfit.

But why should that assumption hold? Why must everybody regard life with the highest reverence? Is there no room for deviation? Is there no room for daredevils? No room for hedonists? or no room for people who just don't value life?

Just like how you want certain things in life, say love or friends or social acceptance, or something else, I want death. Sure it might be unconceivable to you why I want the things I want, but should I be outlawed? Sure, discourage me if you want, but if I disagree, should I be forced?

And with that logic, two psychologist let me walk out of the hospital undiagnosed with being mentally unfit.

They [bug chasers] do what they think is best for them. How far are we going to go in imposing our self-righteous views on them?

 

Yeah this isn't that extreme considering some of the fetishes that are out there..... I could see it being accepted by fetish groups if it was consensual.
And it's not always a crime to infect someone...... I'm pretty sure there have been test cases here where they failed to prosecute. It's messed up but this could actually be legal in some places.

 

It's illegal to knowing give somebody Aids/Hiv here in the States.

I didn't know about this until I had seen it on another forum. It's unbelievable that people would willingly do this.

 

I know about it. It makes me sick. We're trying our hardest to quell the notion that all gays have AIDS, and that it's a "gay disease," and here they are purposefully infecting/purposefully being infected. It's just...ugh.

 

I have no intention to hijack this thread, so I will make this post as brief as possible and hide the text under spoiler tags so that only people that really want to read my response will see it.

Spoiler

I am always up (or down) for a spirited, though respectful, philosophical discussion.

You raise some very valid points, although I will not make any definitive statements, one way or the other, about whether people have an inherent right to end their own lives and other issues related to euthanasia; that is a discussion best left for another day and, of course, another thread.

I should clarify my statement since I was unclear, and I do apologize for that. What I object to in the scenario of someone actively seeking to become infected with HIV is not the dying, since I recognize that death is an inevitable part of life. What I object to is, rather, the (as of now) irreparable self-harm that is caused by such an act.

Let me further clarify my objection by providing another example. Let us say that a woman goes to her doctor's office and inquires about having her right leg surgically removed. There is no medically-sound reason to have this surgery done, and she would derive no health benefit from the procedure apart from, perhaps, some short-lived psychological satisfaction. Would you say that the woman is of sound mind to make such a decision about her health? With the facts as presented, can we reasonably assume that she has her own best interests in mind?

 

I posted about this about a year ago after reading a book called Chasing Jamie. Not well written and full of spelling mistakes but still very good novel about this "phenomenon" >_> It's unbelievable. There was a character in Queer as Folk, a former student of Ben Bruckner, who tried to get Ben to have sex with him to get it. When Ben refused not just because of Michael but also of course the morals aspect, the boy wound up going to a conversion party where he had many positive guys have sex with him bareback. Guys just make sure to protect yourself.