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Why are lesbians given a better outlook than gay men?

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by Ty, Nov 27, 2007.

  1. Ty

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    Curious! (Im just posting random questions that come to my head:stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:)
     
  2. Zec24

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    Hmmm, better outlook how? Do you mean in terms of being accepted by society? I think in that case it very much depends on the society. I know my parents/family seem to have a better time accepting gay men than lesbians.

    Maybe that's not what you were asking though??
     
  3. Ty

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    I mean like.... maybe this is just my outlook but from the way i see it, if two women were holding hands walking down the road, people wouldn't think as much unlike two men....if you sort of see what im saying...bad example?
     
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    No, I get it. I agree with that. Most people don't think twice about two girls holding hands in public, especially if they aren't manly looking. I think its because women have been doing it for a long time, it just become socially acceptable. Its kinda like in other countries there are other customs we in the US or the UK wouldn't find acceptable.
     
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    i think the idea is that two women holding hands aren't necessarily lesbians. there has long been a social attitude that women can be physically close and affectionate asexually, whereas with men this is frowned on, and people assume they must be gay. which sucks. but i agree with zec24 that for more overt displays of homosexuality, some people find lesbianism the same or worse than gay men....
     
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    That's easy. Most of the world is controlled by straight men. Straight men like lesbians because they like watching girls make out. If two guys make out, they're uncomfortable.

    Therefore, lesbians are more accepted because straight guys don't see them as a threat to their own masculinity.

    My roommate and suitemates think lesbians are awesome but they're uncomfortable around gay people. Just a real world example.
     
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    I've held hands with one of my straight friends in McDonalds once. ^^;
     
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    Mhm.
    Lesbians are really sexualized in society, because a lot of straight guys think girl on girl is really hot.

    For example, if you search "lesbian" in pictures on photobucket, you get this:
    "Your search term probably relates to adult content. Photobucket "DOES NOT" host sexually explicit content.

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    or...

    Continue your Photobucket search here"
     
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    So, basically, in a nutshell..

    Because women making out with eachother is hawt. But two men holding hands is lol sissy fest.

    hmm..
     
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    most of the lesbian porn etc is just for men, and the actors aren't even lesbian. they're not fans of real lesbian relationships, just their idea of what lesbians should be like to ensure maximum titillation. most of the "hot lesbian" situations contrived for men's benefit are so corny and awful, you can tell there is no chemistry and it is really just about the men jerking off to it. :frowning2: it's my belief that men can find lesbians hot, in a superficial way, but feel threatened by real lesbians, rather than card-board cut-outs just doing it for their gratification. they can feel affronted that a woman would find other women more attractive than them. also, i believe there's still a societal downer on women expressing their sexuality for themselves, gay or straight. so some people find that intrinsically threatening.

    then again, they also find gay men's acceptance of feminine traits in themselves extremely threatening, because it challenges the concept that masculinity is the be-all-and-end-all (ironically lesbians also challenge this), which i think is a large cause of their homophobia against them. i think in the end the overall discrimination is probably equal, it varies from person to person.
     
  11. Ty

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    One of the ways i discovered i was gay was when i went round to a straight friends house and he put on lesbian porn....he seemed really interested in it but i found it quite....dull =/ I really don't see the appeal atall ^_^
     
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    I second that!
     
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    I admit my girlfriend Yasmine and I do hold hands in public.My girlfriend and I do have lesbian porn and do watch it together.My girlfriend and I get this,lots of attention from guys when we do kiss at night clubs.Some pay us up to $20.00 each to see us kiss.
     
  14. Perrygay

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    Preach it! I agree with every word of what you said.
     
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    To quote my brother,
    "It's cute when two girls have sex. But anal penetration, that's just gross."

    Not an exact quote...
     
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    He is right, if a guy saw 2 lebians making out or walking down the street holding hands, hed be like "cool!", but if he saw 2 gay guys holding hnds while walking or kissing he would be grossed out. Girs are more accepted in coming out than guys.
     
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    i think that all lgbt people suffer discrimination. just because guys find lesbians arousing doesn't mean they truly accept them. but yes, they have a particular problem with guys because they threaten what it means to be a "man", i guess. sigh. quelle sad world.
     
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    Alot of my friends pull out the "Gays are wierd card" but when we talk of lesbians they say, "It's their choice. They can do what they want."

    Wierd..
     
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    bizarre. well, tbh, you have wierd friends. :wink: most of the homophobes i know have just as much of a downer on lesbians. but, commiserations about those stupid b:***: .
     
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    That is possibly the most amazingly insightful and true thing I have every heard. u.u
    Our society needs a bit of a kick in the rear in regards to a few of those particular beliefs.
    My friend Frankie is as feminine as they come, but he's 100% heterosexual. He doesn't watch porn, he doesn't even say "chicks" or "bitch" or anything. >.< He calls girls "ladies" which I think is awesome. Not that I haven't heard him call people he doesn't like whores, but I don't think I've ever heard him use that word for someone who's not a game character. >.< And he's super pro-gay. ^_^

    But yes. o.o I think that the sexualization of lesbians and straight mens' standards of them (in general) just makes it harder for them. They don't just hear "Hey, you're a *$^)%$" they hear "Hey, will you have a threesome with me and another girl?"

    It's amazing how some men figure girls just say they're lesbians to turn them on.