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| Just a miserable pile of secrets. Full Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Kinsey 4 Bisexual. Out Status: Not out at all Location: England, UK Age: 17 Posts: 1,025 Join Date: May 2011 | Since I'm not transgendered I'll never really know what it's like but I want to get an idea of what it's like. How does it feel? How does it affect you mentally? How did others react when you told them? How does it differ from coming out? I've only really heard things like you feel disconnected from your body; I've also heard it feels like a dream. I don't know much about transgendered people but hopefully I'll learn more.
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| Princess of darkness Full Member ![]() Gender: Female (MtF) Orientation: ❤ women Out Status: A few friends Location: Europe Age: 35 Posts: 704 Join Date: Aug 2011 | Quote:
![]() It is frustrating most of all. Feels like being screwed over by nature. Which I suppose goes for a lot of other people too, not just TGs. Mostly the frustration comes from conforming to a gender-role every damn day. After a while the rest of you just screams to get out. Quote:
Ok, I identify as bigendered, or somewhere between that an MtF. I honestly don't know. Hopefully talking to a professional will help me figure it out. Feeling disconnected from your body, hmm, yeah a bit. It is more like the body is incomplete somehow. The big question for me is: Would I also feel incomplete if I was born with a female body? I don't know. I think I would be better of, but honestly I don't know the answer to that either. But hell, a lot of people are unhappy with their body, and can't do anything about it. Doing something about it surgically is a very drastic step and not to be taken lightly. By biggest issue I think is how to manage having relationships. I just met a great girl, and I am not sure how to approach the issue—if at all.
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| i carry your heart Full Member ![]() Gender: trans/FtM/genderqueer Orientation: pansexual Out Status: A few people Location: Middle of nowhere Australia Age: 22 Posts: 242 Join Date: Jul 2011 | I'm still figuring this all out for myself but I'll answer your questions to the best of my ability. Quote:
Mentally, of course, it is also very conflicting. I was raised as a female. Everything I've been taught from my parents has been what it means to be a woman. My mom forced me to be more feminine while I lived at home and has really ingrained some things in my mind. When I was in my early teen years she started making me wear make up because if I didn't "no one would love me because I looked ugly with out my face done up." To this day it's almost impossible for me to go out without doing my make up. But I feel dumb putting it on and it doesn't feel right. It's a daily battle with myself. After years of forcing myself to be someone different it's hard to finally just be me. Quote:
The second person is my friend from work and it didn't phase him at all. He just kinda looked at me and said "you know my brother I'm always talking about? He used to be my sister." So me coming out to him really didn't phase him. The third person is one of my online friends. He was telling me he's into cross dressing and has been seriously thought that he may be trans MtF and I was like, "well I feel the need to tell you something now, I'm trans... So wee!". So that went pretty well too. I'm working on telling a fourth person and I'm utterly horrified of it turning out badly. He and I dated for a while and I know he still has a thing for me. I really don't want to hurt his feelings. It's odd for me, this whole coming out thing is new to me. I never really had to come out to anyone being bi because everyone pretty much knew already. So it's an adventure in the least. Stressful. With this fourth person it's going to be a little bit more complicated because he's a bit naive when it comes to sexuality. So I've just been explaining things little by little so it's not a huge shock when I tell him. "Hey, guess what Puppy? I'm a dude!" (my nickname for him is puppy Because he's so dang innocent at times) Quote:
I've always felt like a male. I didn't consider myself a tomboy. I considered myself a boy. I was introduced to sex at a very young age and from that age on I never felt right with my girl bits. I would be like, No, this isn't right... there should definitely be a penis down there. I wrapped my chest for years until I just gave up. Other females tell me I'm "lucky". I feel lost in my own body. I Live for the day that I'll be able to take my shirt off and just hang out. I don't feel like a woman. I feel like a man missing his guy bits. For years I've dealt with depression and self mutilation because I just didn't feel right. I'm workin on it though. I keep a journal and keep track of all the things I like about myself so that when I'm down I don't get lost in the thoughts of not knowing who I am. I've started working out. I do this thing, that makes me feel Very silly, where I talk to myself while looking at the mirror. My old therapist had me do it. I'll say something like "Hi Leif, today is going to be another tough day. I'm feelin kinda depressed so I need to keep busy. People are still going to call you Lizzette and stare at your chest. It's okay. It took me 21 years to get to this point and it might take another 21 plus to get to where I want to but it'll be worth it." It feels silly but it feels nice to give myself a little pep talk. So yeah, that's a bit how it is for me. Thanks for asking questions. It makes me question myself and move forward with my life
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| Princess of darkness Full Member ![]() Gender: Female (MtF) Orientation: ❤ women Out Status: A few friends Location: Europe Age: 35 Posts: 704 Join Date: Aug 2011 | Quote:
![]() Made me wish the world really was an illusion like that, and the reason I was the way I am was because my physical body actually was female, and by a programming glitch, I was projected as a male avatar in the system. So all I need is to wake up. Neo ... or Trinity rather ... come save me! I know, it's dumb, but it kinda describes a bit how it feels .,, ... did that make sense to anyone?
__________________ "When you find peace within yourself, you become the kind of person who can live at peace with others." | |
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| Just a miserable pile of secrets. Full Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Kinsey 4 Bisexual. Out Status: Not out at all Location: England, UK Age: 17 Posts: 1,025 Join Date: May 2011 | Thanks Leif and Veronica for answering. ![]()
__________________ I'm not a human being. I am merely a product of capital. I solely exist to carry out the will of capital. I will work, comsume and die all in order to preserve the status quo, to preserve inequality, famine, poverty and injustice, to preserve individualism and materialism, to preserve Capitalism. |
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| Princess of darkness Full Member ![]() Gender: Female (MtF) Orientation: ❤ women Out Status: A few friends Location: Europe Age: 35 Posts: 704 Join Date: Aug 2011 | Wrote a blogpost about the Matrix bit by the way ... ---------- Post added 4th Sep 2011 at 04:45 PM ---------- ... and thanks a lot for asking ![]()
__________________ "When you find peace within yourself, you become the kind of person who can live at peace with others." |
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| ... Full Member ![]() Gender: I have a girl's mind Orientation: --- Out Status: Not out at all Location: Pittsburg, PA Age: 14 Posts: 354 Join Date: May 2011 | For me, It just kinda stinks. I haven't come out yet but I hate that feeling of being so trapped, like a never ending maze, of pretending you like things about that gender (for boys, swimming with my shirt of, etc) and then having to do those things. I know this is an old thread, but I wanted to comment.
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| ... Full Member ![]() Gender: I have a girl's mind Orientation: --- Out Status: Not out at all Location: Pittsburg, PA Age: 14 Posts: 354 Join Date: May 2011 | mentally: IT stinks, makes you feel like you'll burst at any time from the discomfort of your body, and just keeps destroying you again and again It doesn't feel like a dream so much as it does just feeling disconnected
__________________ "Your sexuality is only a small part of who you are... Don't let it own you." ~Ukeye |
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| EC's Biggest LNJF and SNL fan!! Full Member ![]() Gender: Let's say Pangender! Orientation: Let's say gay!! Out Status: Out to parents, campus, and 75 friends on facebook Location: Central and Northern Ohio Age: 19 Posts: 2,504 Join Date: Jun 2011 | i identify as bigendered, so really only on the days where I feel more like a man do I have that disconnect. The Matrix analogy is really good though...
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| Well Known Regular Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay, probably Posts: 109 Join Date: Jan 2011 | Never not plug this site. I really think it is brilliant for learning about trans issues though it does have a strong binary focus and also a strong transwoman focus (although most issues translate more or less).
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| let watchers become warriors Full Member Gender: You tell me. Orientation: Hey good lookin'. *wink* Out Status: It's pretty obvious. Location: Alabama *cue banjos* Age: 26 Posts: 2,118 Join Date: Nov 2010 | Quote:
__________________ Shelter me oh genius words, just give me strength / to pen these things, and give me peace to well her wings / and oh, oh carry on, all you minstrels of the world, we will catch our lady's ear, we will win for us the girl. Last edited by maverick; 13th Sep 2011 at 05:26 AM.. | |
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| ♡(*´∀`*)人(*´∀`*)♡ Regular Member ![]() Gender: Genderqueer Orientation: 両性愛 ♪ Out Status: A few people Age: 22 Posts: 13 Join Date: May 2011 | It honestly just feels to me that there's two people living in one skin. |
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| Member Regular Member ![]() Gender: Transgender - FtM Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Portland, OR Age: 24 Posts: 47 Join Date: Sep 2011 | I've never not been transgender, so it's hard to say. What does it feel like to be cisgender? The hardest thing for me, now that I am well into transition and able to live life in my true gender, is getting past the feeling that I've missed out on my rightful childhood. Obviously, as a transgender adult, I was once a transgender child. And although I had fairly open-minded parents who allowed me to wear what I wanted and called my by the name I chose, they weren't educated enough on gender identity to actually have helped me transition and grow up as a boy. There's a lot of residual anger and anxiety around feeling like I wasn't listened to or taken seriously when I talked about my own identity until I was well into my college years. I still have difficulty bonding with other guys (well, with straight guys anyway) because I missed out on so many years of practice of just casually being boys together. There's also the body issue which, for some, can never fully be cured. Have you heard of phantom limbs? Often when people have body parts amputated, they continue to feel as if they are still there. It's caused by the map of your body that your brain has. Your brain essentially expects your body to be configured in a certain way and it can be quite disorienting when you feel a part of your body, but it isn't actually there anymore. Studies have shown that cisgender men who lose their penises often experience phantom penis, whereas transgender women who have lower surgery don't. The theory is that their brains, being female, have not mapped for a penis. Conversely, the male brain of a transgender male has mapped for the external genitalia that he was born without. Not all trans people experience this, but a good number do and it's something we often just have to live with. |
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| Weary Traveller Full Member ![]() Gender: Transgender - FtM Orientation: Gay Out Status: Pretty much everyone that matters. Location: USA Age: 24 Posts: 402 Join Date: Sep 2011 | Quote:
Along with what everyone else said above, I have a lot of anger and grief that I'm working through still in relation to my childhood. Being 23 and not having come out until I was about 19, I feel like I was robbed of my childhood. It angers me that I wasn't able to grow up as the boy I knew I was, and it also makes me intensely sad that I missed out on so much because I was so miserable and uncomfortable in my own skin. I never had many friends, never really enjoyed life... Had I been born cisgender, things would have been different, I'm sure. Luckily, I have the rest of my life to make up for it. | |
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| XxjustbeurselfXx Full Member ![]() Gender: Questioning my gender Orientation: pansexual Out Status: only one friend knows Location: Oklahoma Age: 17 Posts: 190 Join Date: Sep 2011 | its all difficult.im questioning if im transgender(ftm)im not sure but i do feel pretty weird.i can relate to alot of what u guys have said.i feel alot better also when someone calls me a guy or treats me liek one..or i look liek one..idk its all confusing..
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