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starfish · 28th Oct 2011, 08:54 PM

So Herman Cain ran this ad.

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I just don't get why they had the guy smoking at the end. What value did that add. That is and Herman Cain's creepy smile at the end.

I just don't get it. Then again I'm talking about it, maybe that was the point.

Kidd · 28th Oct 2011, 09:04 PM

I think that it's just totally ridiculous. I like to imagine it's the sort of thing a film student would make as part of a school project during their first semester. It feels very hokey and cliched to me. The guy smoking at the end is just beyond cheesy too in my opinion, but anti-smoking is the popular position to take so this definitely sets Cain apart from the others. I read somewhere that Cain used to be a tobacco lobbyist but I don't know if that's actually true or not.

thecat06 · 28th Oct 2011, 09:08 PM

I don't think that anybody does...

**Eric** · 28th Oct 2011, 09:22 PM

I didn't think you could show people smoking in national ads.

starfish · 28th Oct 2011, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by starfish

That is and Herman Cain's creepy smile at the end.

The other thing I don't understand. Why I put an "is" in that sentence.

thecat06 · 28th Oct 2011, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by starfish

Quote:

Originally Posted by starfish

That is and Herman Cain's creepy smile at the end.

The other thing I don't understand. Why I put an "is" in that sentence.

That is a very creepy smile in the end..

Ridiculous · 28th Oct 2011, 09:51 PM

Whoa really, was that actually his ad?

I'm in New Zealand so obviously I haven't seen it, but I did watch the Late Show and David Letterman has been parodying it... I just assumed it was one of his typical parodies where it's mostly fictional.

Kidd · 30th Oct 2011, 12:51 PM

Jon Huntsman's daughters are my new favorites. They did a spoof of the ad. I would actually consider voting for him too. It's sad that he isn't getting any support from the GoP...

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RedState · 30th Oct 2011, 01:26 PM

I like Herman Cain...I think he's genuine and I think he has a remarkable personal story of overcoming the challenges of the segregated south and becoming a business success.

I'm not supporting him, but how I have been tempted to put a "Honkies for Herman" bumper sticker on my SUV

No one in the political world really understands it...I think it is one of the more bizarre ads I have seen. This is why all major campaigns have media consultants and advisors...its obvious that Herman Cain has neither...as a matter of fact he has very little state by state organization at all.

But, I can understand somewhat why they did it. Think about this: one is the main purpose of an ad? It is to get people talking about a certain product. From that standpoint, this has succeeded beautifully because it has been all over the place..people have been discussing this non-stop. We can argue if it is a positive or negative impact all day long (I personally think it's strange).

For campaigns like Cain's, that do not have the multi-million campaign accounts that a Mitt Romney or Rick Perry have, they have to revert to this gorilla type you tube ad war to compete. Cain has gotten more name ID with this one clip (that probably cost only a few thousand to produce) than he would have gotten with a $10 million multi-state ad buy. Once again, weather that is positive or negative is up for discussion.

But, I think it shows the amateurish nature of the entire Cain campaign up to this point. He needs to get serious from an organizational standpoint and start to seriously study domestic/foreign policy issues if he hopes to be anything other than a one hit wonder flash in the pan.

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Kidd You'll love me! Full Member Gender: ♂ Orientation: ♂ ♥ ♂ Out Status: Out Location: N.W. Ohio Age: 21 Posts: 1,430 Join Date: Mar 2010	Re: I just don't get it. I think that it's just totally ridiculous. I like to imagine it's the sort of thing a film student would make as part of a school project during their first semester. It feels very hokey and cliched to me. The guy smoking at the end is just beyond cheesy too in my opinion, but anti-smoking is the popular position to take so this definitely sets Cain apart from the others. I read somewhere that Cain used to be a tobacco lobbyist but I don't know if that's actually true or not. __________________ I feel a hunger. Take my picture by the pool, because I'm the next big thing. Fingers crossed, my time is coming now...

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Eric EC Chat Room Mod EC Chat Mod Gender: Male Orientation: Gayyy Out Status: Open about it. Location: Ontario Age: 18 Posts: 1,374 Join Date: Jun 2010	Re: I just don't get it. I didn't think you could show people smoking in national ads.

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Ridiculous EC Addict Regular Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Friends Location: New Zealand Age: 20 Posts: 934 Join Date: Dec 2010	Re: I just don't get it. Whoa really, was that actually his ad? I'm in New Zealand so obviously I haven't seen it, but I did watch the Late Show and David Letterman has been parodying it... I just assumed it was one of his typical parodies where it's mostly fictional.

30th Oct 2011, 01:26 PM	#9
RedState The Grendel to Everyone's Beowulf Full Member Gender: Male Out Status: 2 Location: The Southeastern Conference Age: 30 Posts: 1,448 Join Date: Aug 2008	Re: I just don't get it. I like Herman Cain...I think he's genuine and I think he has a remarkable personal story of overcoming the challenges of the segregated south and becoming a business success. I'm not supporting him, but how I have been tempted to put a "Honkies for Herman" bumper sticker on my SUV No one in the political world really understands it...I think it is one of the more bizarre ads I have seen. This is why all major campaigns have media consultants and advisors...its obvious that Herman Cain has neither...as a matter of fact he has very little state by state organization at all. But, I can understand somewhat why they did it. Think about this: one is the main purpose of an ad? It is to get people talking about a certain product. From that standpoint, this has succeeded beautifully because it has been all over the place..people have been discussing this non-stop. We can argue if it is a positive or negative impact all day long (I personally think it's strange). For campaigns like Cain's, that do not have the multi-million campaign accounts that a Mitt Romney or Rick Perry have, they have to revert to this gorilla type you tube ad war to compete. Cain has gotten more name ID with this one clip (that probably cost only a few thousand to produce) than he would have gotten with a $10 million multi-state ad buy. Once again, weather that is positive or negative is up for discussion. But, I think it shows the amateurish nature of the entire Cain campaign up to this point. He needs to get serious from an organizational standpoint and start to seriously study domestic/foreign policy issues if he hopes to be anything other than a one hit wonder flash in the pan. __________________ Last edited by RedState; 30th Oct 2011 at 01:36 PM..