Before you give to the Salvation Army

Oh dear

 

Want to sell your daughter as a slave? God gives to you go-ahead:
Exodus 21:7 “When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she shall not go out as the male slaves do. If she does not please her master, who designated her for himself, then he shall let her be redeemed; he shall have no right to sell her to a foreign people, since he has dealt unfairly with her. If he designates her for his son, he shall deal with her as with a daughter.”

Know someone who practices wicca? As long as they're male, its fine. Femal? Kill them:
Exodus 22:18 “You shall not permit a female sorcerer to live.”

In the lower class and need to work constantly to provide for your family? Better let them go hungry once a week or you'll face the wrath of God:
Exodus 31:15 “Six days shall work be done, but the seventh day is a sabbath of solemn rest, holy to the Lord; whoever does any work on the sabbath day shall be put to death.”


I could go on and on. I'm sick of the conservative right wing taking the Bible literally when they want to apply it to things such as homosexuality but other matters are simply not to be taken in that way.

Faith and politics should be mutually exclusive and you shouldn't interpret your religious text on varying levels of literality.

 

You know what though? Just because a not for profit organization is built around strong christian beliefs doesn't mean they aren't doing something great. I really couldn't care less if the salvation army "opposes" homsexuality....they are still helping those who need help. And in the end is that not more important?

If we keep pushing ourselves onto people likes this, in the end are we not doing what the christians did 100's of years ago.

And besides, would you expect a church based program to say otherwise?

I don't know, if a major million dollar corporation was after gay/lesbian peoples then I would be mad...but I just can't see myself to throw fake dollers into the salvation army bucket....it just isn't right.

 

i am still gonna give to the salvation army, because they are doing something good and i could honestly care less what their beliefs are. i'm not gonna be the one to change it; i could help in the matter but who knows what they honestly think. we won't be the final decision on what people think of us; they'll choose to think whatever they wish. a good cause is a good cause, now if they were to discriminate against giving to those of 'different' sexuality that's wrong.

 

I tottaly agree with you Steven

 

well said both of you.

 

i agree - they will provide services to all regardless of orientation. i mean, it would be better if they supprted lgbts, but they are still pretty good, imho. they do loads of good work in the uk for the homeless, alcoholics, drug addicts, depressed, old people, you name it. and at least they're not hateful "god hates fags" types. they're tolerant even if they disapprove. so.. i would still donate to them...

 

When they are providing food and shelter to the homeless at Christmas or other times, do they question the person's sexuality before offering support or do they withdraw support if they find out that the person is gay? If not then I have no problems supporting that aspect of their work.

The piece that Becky posted suggests to me that they are trying to satisfy the Church while being as vague and non-committal as possible.

 

That makes sense.
Lol I think the EC community is the nicest gay community ever lol

We should be out there rioting >_<
Not really...just joking

 

They may not hire LGBTs but as long as they are willing to help LGBTs that are in need then I am not against them. Of course it would be a hell of a lot better if they would hire gays and lesbians but that's life unfortunately. I can see why people would be mad, it is discrimination, but it's only the hiring part, it won't stop me donating to them.

 

I agree

 

As I read the original posting, I thought the same as many here... it was pretty tame for something from a religious organization. I don't agree with discriminating based on orientation when hiring - but I wouldn't want to work there anyway. But they do some very worthwhile and selfless work in the community - which I think is great.

Thanks for raising this though Becky. These large organizations, regardless of what they do, need to be held accountable.

 

If the Salvation Army is taking money from the federal/state governments, they need to be hiring GLBT people. We all pay into the tax system, and that means if you take government money you should not discriminate. As for donating to them though, as long as they'll still give to GLBT people I'll continue to donate to them.

 

@beckyg
is there link on their website for that?

 

Yeah I have collected for them before and I believe the work they do is good. I think as long as they don't discriminate on who they help then it should be fine. I know what becky is trying to say. It should be more accepting on the GLBT community but I think it has to at least try a bit to also appeal to the Christian community or so called church.

 

http://www.salvationarmyusa.org/usn...85256DDC007274DF80256B7D0054B5BA?openDocument