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| Mad and dead as nails EC Advisor ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Kinsey 5 or 6. It varies Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Alaska Age: 22 Posts: 2,026 Join Date: Mar 2010 | I'm trying to eliminate, as much as possible, my consumption of dairy products and eggs. However, I'm having a problem with finding bread not made with whey or milk. Even the bread recipes I have almost all involve dried milk. Does anyone know of relatively affordable bread brands that don't use any dairy products?
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| Weary Traveller Full Member ![]() Gender: Transgender - FtM Orientation: Gay Out Status: Pretty much everyone that matters. Location: USA Age: 24 Posts: 402 Join Date: Sep 2011 | You might have to just buy a bread maker and find some recipes. It'll probably be the cheaper, more reliable option.
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| EC Advisor EC Admin Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: northern CA Posts: 5,581 Join Date: May 2008 | THe key is "affordable." There are some excellent dairy-free (and gluten-free as well) breads you can find in almost any health food store that has a frozen section, but they aren't cheap. In the lower 48, $3-4 a loaf. I'm guessing probably higher in Alaska. So it will definitely be cheaper to make your own. Flour, yeast, little sugar or honey, little salt, and you're done You can make 5 or 10 loaves at a time and freeze the ones you don't use, and it really doesn't take much more time to make 10 loaves than it does to make two. |
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| Mad and dead as nails EC Advisor ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Kinsey 5 or 6. It varies Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Alaska Age: 22 Posts: 2,026 Join Date: Mar 2010 | $3-4 is the standard price of non-white bread here already, and I can't eat non-white bread because it just leaves me desperately hungry. Making my own does seem to be the way to go, and it's not as if I don't enjoy bread baking. I'm not much of an inventor when it comes to baking, though. Can I just use the ratio of flour to water in a regular recipe and just not use any milk or butter, maybe some extra honey or molasses instead? Or do I have to adjust for the absence of the fat and flavor that the milk and butter create?
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| This space for lease. Full Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: I like guys Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Hippie Town, Alberta of the US Age: 31 Posts: 2,109 Join Date: Nov 2008 | I am curious why one would want to eliminate dairy and eggs from their diet.
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| Mad and dead as nails EC Advisor ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Kinsey 5 or 6. It varies Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Alaska Age: 22 Posts: 2,026 Join Date: Mar 2010 | Essentially it's because it's not currently possible for me to buy products made from humanely raised cows (I have access to properly free-range eggs through one of my professors). Because I think it's immoral to sponsor what amounts to wanton animal torture, I'm choosing to try to avoid purchasing food made with the products of animal torture. Which, since I'm already a vegetarian, means eliminating dairy and only eating eggs that are free-range ("cage-free" chickens (which are the only commercially available eggs that made any nod towards preventing animal cruelty in my area) are still in unspeakably horrid conditions; the cage-free label is mostly unregulated and only requires that the chickens have theoretical access to an uncaged area).
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| EC Advisor EC Admin Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: northern CA Posts: 5,581 Join Date: May 2008 | Liam, I've seen a number of bread recipes with little or no fat/oil in them. You need some sugar or honey or molasses so there's something to react with the yeast, but as far as I know, the oil or butter is mostly for flavor and moisture. Bread without it will be a little bit dry, but can be really good. Or you can experiment with using part oat flour, which has a bit of fat in it. (I'd say soy, but it tends to make the bread bitter.) If you can find a copy of the Deaf Smith Cookbook, I believe they have some very healthy (i.e., low or no fat) bread recipes in there. Otherwise, there are probably a ton of other healthy bread cookbooks by now. I think you'll be surprised how easy it is, with a bit of experimentation, to come up with a really tasty bread recipe that's fat free and inexpensive to make. Just don't make my mistake and experiment, but not document what you did, so when you hit on the perfect recipe, you don't remember what you modified to get it perfect ![]() |
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| Weary Traveller Full Member ![]() Gender: Transgender - FtM Orientation: Gay Out Status: Pretty much everyone that matters. Location: USA Age: 24 Posts: 402 Join Date: Sep 2011 | Quote:
Anyhow, I've heard of people using pureed zucchini instead of butter. I don't know the conversion ration, though; one would have to google it.
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| Filip's sidekick EC Advisor Gender: Female Orientation: Straight Out Status: Out as straight ally Location: France Age: 32 Posts: 5,401 Join Date: Feb 2009 | Wait... you put some milk in the bread ? What kind of country do you live in ???? If you can't find way without milk, the easiest way would be to make it yourself. It's quite easy. I can give you recipes if you want to.
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| Mad and dead as nails EC Advisor ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Kinsey 5 or 6. It varies Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Alaska Age: 22 Posts: 2,026 Join Date: Mar 2010 | Would you please? I'd really appreciate it.
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