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the use of the word sodomy to describe homosexual sexual activity is offensive

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by needshelp, Dec 29, 2011.

  1. needshelp

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    there was an incident that happened yesterday or on tuesday in brooklyn where a man impersonating a police officer raped a 15 year old boy on the subway. i just happened to see the news report on it and it showed a flyer of the suspect with the words right above the sketch of him "wanted for sodomy". then i thought to myself and realized that sodomy is mainly used to describe homosexual sexual activity even though sodomy is any sexual activity that isn't vaginal intercourse. i also thought about how sodomy as in homosexual sexual activity is actually against the law in many states whether it's consensual or not. hell, even the word sodomy and the word that it was derived from has a negative meaning and history towards it. to use that word pretty much insults the gay community and it shows the ignorance of the government. last time i remember, any form of sexual activity in where there's a nonconsensual party involved was rape. nevermind the gender involved. the nypd couldn't even see this?
     
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    the word has many meanings. the biblical meaning is "one who turns away from God", which accurately applies to the kind of people who say the word means "homosexual sex".
     
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    well, most people use it in one of those two senses. this is why i can't get down with religion for that matter.
     
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    Where was this? I thought "sodomy" was out as a legal term when "sodomy laws" against gay sex were dropped. I suppose the media doesnt have to use legal terms if they don't want to. But I agree, putting consensual homosexual sex in a category with rape, bestiality, etc is pretty clearly a cheap shot on gay people, in my opinion.
     
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    'Sodomy' legally refers to anal sex between any two person(s) (whether it be M->F or M->M). Well, at least it does here, because anal sex under 18 (regardless of the role) in my state is illegal. Woo, backwards government ftw. Biblical meanings mean shit all, if you ask Average Joe what sodomy meant, they'd say anal sex.

    I'd say you're looking into it too much. It could be implied that it was rape.
     
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    Legally, sodomy in the US has been used to refer to both anal and oral sex. It's definitely an offensive term to use, but I wouldn't be surprised to learn that it's still the legally correct term for certain acts.

    As Ember says, biblically it refers to turning away from God's laws. If Ezekiel 16:49 is to be trusted, the sin of Sodom was pride and failure to care for the poor.
     
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    and if pat robertson is to be trusted (HA!), then sodamey means 'doing it up the duffer.'
     
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    "i also thought about how sodomy as in homosexual sexual activity is actually against the law in many states whether it's consensual or not."

    Since when is homosexual activity against the law in the US?
     
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    The modern legal context of sodomy post-Lawrence is usually forcible.

    Forcible sodomy, involuntary deviant sexual intercourse, whatever your district calls it, is distinct from standard rape in some jurisdictions. The poster you saw is almost certainly an APB notifying the public that this man is wanted for forcible sodomy, not consensual sodomy (which is not constitutional in the US).
     
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    I've always heard "sodomy" used for anything that wasn't M/F dick/vag sex.

    Any more most of the laws are repealed and people with sodomy records for otherwise consentual sex records expunged(right word?)

    Honestly it's kind of stupid, because... It's all sex. there's nothing less natural about oral or fingering(/handjobs) or anal, than vaginal sex.
     
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    I think, as people have been saying already, that here it's being used in a more legal context, usually regarding non-consensual anal sex. Men generally have a very hard time reporting that they've been raped or identifying as survivors of rape, and so "sodomy" somehow becomes more acceptable because it doesn't identify them as survivors of an experience that's thought to happen to women. Truly messed up, but I suspect that's part of why the word is used in such a case.

    I agree, though, that identifying "sodomy" as a crime is rather insulting to gay people. :dry:

    Or, for that matter, to anyone who likes something other than hetero missionary sex. Not that many of them realize it. :rolle: