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Questioning who I am now

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  1. dolphinsneu

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    Hi all,

    I am always been a straight man, but now I am not so sure. I have had two relationships in the the last six months. The first one gave no indication that I could be anything other than straight. She would turn me on, arose me, and I'd get hard. The second one appeared to give the same indication. We would have dry sex and I would get hard and get good orgasms.

    When we decided to try regular sex, however, I could not get hard. I also could not get hard when she tried to go down on me. Also, one time, I made myself hard with my hands and then penetrated her with a condom on, but I could not maintain the erection, nor did I feel anything like I was reaching a climax. I understand that this could be because I was nervous (and I was VERY nervous), but I am also wondering if that could be because I am not really attracted to women. My inability to perform has now extended to where I cannot even get hard enough to have dry sex with her.

    I have always considered myself straight and never had any indication to believe otherwise. I have always had crushes on girls, masturbated to girls, and gotten aroused by girls. However, my first girlfriend, back in 2005, came out to me as a lesbian one month after we broke up. She had had several boyfriends before. I have always wondered if she had been straight and now had become gay. This is making me wonder if this is what is happening to me.

    I am not afraid of realizing that I am gay. I would embrace it if I was. I just am not sure how I will know for sure. I have tried to see if I can cum by masturbating to guys. This has failed, but I am wondering how much of that is due to the uncertaintly that I could be leaving something I have known all my life.

    Can any of you help me here? Do you guys know anybody whose orientation has changed over time? That could be what is happening to me. If it is, so be it, but I'd like to find out if this is the case.

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    The main question I have is, is it possible to go from one orientation to another naturally. I don't believe it can be changed voluntarily, but I wonder if naturally it could be.
     
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    Well, one way of knowing for sure is to look at gay porn, and see if that does anything to you. Also have you noticed some guys that you think, wow he's kinda sexy?

    usually there is some indication.

    But I don't know. i think you were too nervous and might not even be gay or even bi
     
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    sounds like you just have performance anxiety and that the girl you was with just wasn't straight to begin with so no she did not "turn gay". she's either bi or just gay. i think this site would be better for her more so than for you.

    as far as being gay, you're not that. your attraction is mainly towards girls. you pretty much answered all your questions regarding yourself. i don't know about the whole sexual orientation changing through time thing but i have heard that for guys, your sexuality really is set for the most part unless you're bisexual.

    you should talk look into info about how to relax yourself in the bedroom though.
     
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    Some times it does how ever. That depends on circumstances, like family, church or even the society where you live. Some people are married have kids, but later on find out that they are gay. So it usually depends from person to person!
     
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    The generally accepted idea (here at least) is that you don't "become gay", you simply realize it. Something (whatever it may be) triggers in your life to make these thoughts surface.

    Honestly, I'd blame your past experience on nerves, especially if you're as nervous as you think you are. But what I want to suggest is that I doubt you'd go through the mental anguish of debating whether or not you're straight if there wasn't a good reason to do so. Now, what is that reason?

    You said you've tried to "get off" to guys but it isn't working. Again, that could easily be due to nerves. So think of things from a broader scope:

    - Have you watched gay porn? Did you enjoy it?
    - Even in straight porn, are you watching the guy as well as the girl?
    - Walking down the street, do you ever catch yourself looking at guys you see?

    Keep in mind that sexuality isn't binary, trinary, or restricted at all to a number of "categories"; it's very fluid. You can have days where you look only at girls (being completely "straight") and other days where you might look at mostly guys (more "gay"). Most people just pick a label because they've decided their preferences don't change that much and it makes things easier for them. But it is very much a spectrum of preferences... you could be any range of bisexual as well.

    Otherwise, I'd say just think about who you're really looking at the next little while. There's no rush to have this all figured out, or to start telling people... you said you'd embrace it if you were gay, so just let it sort itself out. No worries, right?

    And welcome to EC! :slight_smile:
     
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    well, he didn't mention anything about having any attraction to guys so that in itself answers his question. i think he was worried that he might be gay because of his problems in the bedroom when sexual orientation goes beyond having sex. i think he needs to deal with that issue first because that has nothing to do with who he's attracted to really. that's just a different problem altogether.
     
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    First off, welcome to EC! Hope you find it helpful here. :slight_smile:

    As for your situation. It sounds to me more like there was some problem with your second relationship you described. Maybe not with her, or with you, but some kind of issue that wasn't really dealt with? Being nervous - or even just having emotional or relationship baggage that you're not dealing with - can absolutely affect your sex life all on its/their own.

    That said, if you're finding yourself questioning your orientation, there may be something to look at here. Don't worry too much about porn - I know lots of gay people that like to watch hetero porn, and even some hetero people that like to watch gay porn. It can affect you in all kinds of different ways, and it's not a substitute for a sex life (well, not an equivalent one anyway :lol:slight_smile:.

    To answer your original question, then, I don't personally believe that orientations "change," but rather that we learn more about them as time goes on. It could be the case that you're interested in men and women. It could be that you've been pretending - even to yourself - to be interested in women all along because you thought you were supposed to be (very common, as in your first girlfriend's case). It could be that you just don't have as big of a sex drive as your last girlfriend.

    Aside from porn, then, do you have any other indications that you might be gay or otherwise interested in men?

    Good luck - come back to post as often as you like!
     
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    I'm not worried that I might be gay. If I am, I am.

    I still look at girls and get attracted to them, but it doesn't seem to make me aroused "down there", so I am wondering if that is a true attraction.

    ---------- Post added 21st May 2012 at 04:11 PM ----------

    When you were talking about the reason I started to question. There are several.

    1) My current girlfriend's ass does seem to turn me on and when I move my penis toward it, it does seem to get a little hard, so I am wondering if I am really meant for anal sex. However, I have had prostate exams and not enjoyed them.

    2) Even when I look at girls in their underwear videos on youtube and feel like they are attractive, my thing doesn't "move", I have to use my hands to get hard.

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    I don't think I've been pretending. I have had crushes on girls, been aroused by girls, been turned on by girls, all my life.

    The only two real indications is my inability to perform sexually. I have hard time believing it is nerves because when I have put my penis inside my gf's vagina, I lost my erection. Also, when I have showered with my previous gf, seeing her butt did make me start to get hard
     
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    I'm just gonna redirect you a little bit on your thinking. You've mentioned quite a few examples about your girlfriends and attractive girls and how you react... which is good. But what you need to remember is that whether or not you like girls doesn't determine whether or not you like guys.

    Additionally, there is sooooo much more to sex ("straight" or "gay" sex) than just vaginal for "straight" sex, just anal for "gay" sex, etc. They aren't mutually paired up. It's quite possible you just don't like what you're trying.

    So take a step back, and take a look at the guys in your life. Do you find yourself attracted to them?
     
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    I have never had any guy friends. All of my friends are girls.

    I do not know what to think. I read some of your coming out stories, and they were nothing like mine would be. I never had any attractions to guys, nor any indication to think I was gay, but ever since I have failed to perfom sexually with my gfs, I have begun to look at guys and have begun to think maybe I am attracted to them.
     
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    Well then do as I and BudderMC suggested, get some gay porn, the web is full of it and see if it does anything to you. Look at straight porn, see if you look at the girl and it does something to you, look at the guy as well and see what happens.

    But I think this isn't your problem. I think you might have erectile dysfunction. It's common amongst men, whether you're gay, straight bi, pan what ever. The easiest way to fix this is to speak to your doctor and see what he thinks.
     
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    It is possible I have ED, but I am only 24 right now. I am wondering if it is a sensitivity issue. For example, last saturday my gf tried to give me a hand job. She got me hard, but could not make me cum.

    Looking at either type of porn doesn't make me hard. I have to use my hands to get myself hard. Right now, I can only cum to women.

    It could by my misunderstanding of sex, too. I was an incel for 5 years at college. I thought when I put my penis in her vagina, I would puff up and approach climax immediately. That didn't happen. Again, this could be due to my decreased sensitivity added to that the fact that I had a condom. But I have never heard of somebody with a desensitized penis.
     
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    A week later, for now I think I am straight.

    I have several friends who are girls. When I hang out with them, I want to hold hands, kiss them, and hug them.

    I hung out with a guy friend a couple days ago. We played chess, then went to dinner. I had no desire to want to kiss him or hold hands with him.

    But I know I might be wrong. It could turn out that I am gay after all. Only time will tell.

    The next question I have for you all is: Did any of you date the opposite sex before you realized you were gay? Did you get turned on by dating them?

    Or maybe I could be bi.
     
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    well thats shocking
     
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    I'm leaning in the direction that you're straight, based on what you've said. But sometimes what you say consciously and what is going on unconsciously don't match. We've had others here who absolutely insisted they were straight... but the fact they joined a gay site to ask questions usually indicates something is up.

    Also, it's unlikely you're only aroused by anal sex, and even if you were, if you were gay, seeing a woman's ass wouldn't arouse you.

    So gay porn doesn't do anything for you, and neither does straight porn. What happens when you masturbate? I'm assuming you're fantasizing rather than looking at porn, so what are you thinking about? Is it guys? girls? both? Are you imagining having sex, or just imagining pictures of bodies?

    That may help get a little more clarity.
     
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    I can get hard and cum masturbating to straight porn. However, I need to use my hands to get myself hard. I can't get hard just by watching a porn video, I need to rub my penis against myself while I watch it. I am always thinking about girls when I get off. Oftentimes, I am envisioning fingering them.
     
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    So if you are saying that you can get aroused and ejaculate to straight porn, and that you are always thinking about girls when you masturbate and ejaculate, I think it's pretty clear you're straight.

    If you want to test this for certain, you can try watching gay porn (make sure you do so with guys you find somewhat attractive, not obese 50 year olds, unless that's your thing) or fantasizing about guys, and see how that works for you. If you get little to no response, then you have your answer.
     
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    I still have questions because when my gf tried going down on me, I didn't get hard or cum. However, I don't think I would have gotten hard and cummed if a man had gone down on me.
     
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    One caution I have about gay porn is there is a lot of it I just don't like. There is a lot of it where it is about one guy dominating the other guy. I don't like that. When I was was coming to term with it this caused me a lot of problems.

    I found that I really liked looking at guys in their underwear. So I had downloaded a lot of pictures. That is what tipped me off.

    A couple of thought. Is there a guy that you can picture who you would describe as hot. Also ED can happen when you are young. I had a bout of ED last year. Mine was stress related. I was under a lot of stress at work and I couldn't get an erection to save my life.
     
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    Keep in mind *actual* ED is unusual. This is not what the makers of Viagra would have you believe, however.

    What you are experiencing is likely not ED, but nervousness... which is VERY normal. It goes to self-confidence, nervousness, concerns about self-assurance, and all sorts of other issues. And as you become more comfortable and secure with yourself... the nervousness goes away.