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article on female sexuality

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  1. dreamcatcher

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    Why Are So Many Girls Lesbian or Bisexual? | Psychology Today

    Hey, so this article is a bit old so I apologize if it's been discussed before. But I really wanna know what everyone thinks about it, especially from the ladies, since it's a discussion about female sexuality after all :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes: Does anything said here ring true? I found parts of it kinda disturbing but I'd rather wait to see what everyone else thinks.
     
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    I dont have much experience with the acceptance of girls, but from what I can tell, they're a bit more accepting
     
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    I really don't understand where he's getting the connection between boys looking at porn and girls dating girls. Yes, porn is more readily available, but I know a lot of girls who look at porn too. And how does looking at porn automatically make someone a "loser"? I understand that it can give people unrealistic expectations of what sex is like, but enough to make guys big enough jerks that their girlfriends decide to switch teams?

    I don't know. The whole thing sounded very unscientific to me.
     
  4. Tetraquark

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    I agree with Pinstripe that it doesn't sound very scientific. The numbers that seemed to spark the writing of the article -- 5% of men identify as gay or bi vs. 15% of women -- may or may not be solid, but the explanations presented for them are not supported at all, at least by anything in the article.

    Assuming the numbers are good (and this is somewhat reasonable), I think the most likely explanation has to do with the fact that our society polices the boundaries of masculinity a lot more tightly than those of femininity. If this were true, then the author's suggestion that the increase in prevalence of porn is tied to the issue could be correct, just not for the reasons he stated. Speaking as a woman who has a lot of exposure to geek culture, it appears that wanting to sleep with as many women as possible is a defining characteristic of being a man among significant portions of the male population.

    What society permits women to be is much broader in comparison. There are still a lot of options that are deemed unacceptable or un-womanly, but a butch woman will not face the same amount of harassment as a feminine man. Being attracted to men is perceived by the straight population to be a feminine trait. If you posses feminine traits, so the thinking goes, you are also less of a "real" man.

    In other words, the question isn't "why are there so many queer-identified women?" but rather "why are there so few queer-identified men?". Of course, none of my analysis is particularly scientific either, so consider it a hypothesis rather than a scientific theory.
     
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    You know, thinking about this article more makes me realize there's more about it that bothers me. :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

    I think the main reason I can't take this seriously is that if you accept his hypothesis (porn-obsessed young men are driving girls to date girls), then it also works in reverse: if these boys were gentlemen, they could convince these girls to be straight again. And isn't that just a version of the "You just haven't met the right guy" line we've all heard before? It doesn't help that certain straight men already have a sense of entitlement about women- the idea that if you treat her nicely enough, she's obligated to sleep with you. I understand he's not talking about all bi or lesbian girls, but I don't thinks he makes that clear enough.

    If he really is some sort of expert, he should know that correlation does not imply causality. -_-
     
  6. JillandJill

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    I know at the beginning, I did NOT want to be gay. But just because you kiss girls at a party doesn't mean you self-identify as lesbian or bisexual either. I kissed plenty of girls before I knew I was gay, and at that point I didn't want to accept it.

    But mostly I agree with Pinstripe.... :slight_smile: