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Old 25th Jun 2012, 11:08 AM   #1
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This week I am volunteering at my church's Neighbourhood Bible Time. It's going well and the kids are having a lot of fun. Today I was reminded of how honest children are and that they will simply ask whatever is on their minds. They are inquisitive creatures. So this little 5 year old approaches me mid-game (kickball) and asks, "Are you a boy or a girl?"
I told him, "girl" and he went back to playing the game. He had a question and when he got the answer that was that. It wasn't like some adults who have it in their minds on what males and females should look/act like and will let you know if they think you're not conforming to your assigned gender-role. Made me smile
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Old 25th Jun 2012, 12:55 PM   #2
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I feel good knowing there is another here maybe from a similar background as me. Thank you for posting this.
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Old 25th Jun 2012, 02:01 PM   #3
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I feel good knowing there is another here maybe from a similar background as me. Thank you for posting this.
You are another "gender non-conformist" I take it?
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Just curious, would you be offended if an adult asked you in a similar manner, or if they actually got your gender wrong?
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Just curious, would you be offended if an adult asked you in a similar manner, or if they actually got your gender wrong?
If I understand your question properly this is my response:
I suppose neither. I would take offense only when an adult chose to cut me down for how I look or for my mannerisms. They can ask to sate their curiosity if they like, but if they choose to make fun of me or someone else then they are just being hateful and judgemental of anothers personality. If asked that question by an adult, I don't think I would take offense persay, but I have not been asked that before. I have, however, sensed that question in their eyes, you know what I'm talking about? When they kind of look at you inquisitively...

Leading to your other question - I have been mistaken for the wrong gender before (called sir or young man) and it doesn't really bother me...I just smile and carry on because it's usually an elderly person who isn't really looking directly at me or someone calling out from behind me. Because let's face it...sometimes you just can't tell if someone is male or female.

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Just curious, would you be offended if an adult asked you in a similar manner, or if they actually got your gender wrong?
If I understand your question properly this is my response:
I suppose neither. I would take offense only when an adult chose to cut me down for how I look or for my mannerisms. They can ask to sate their curiosity if they like, but if they choose to make fun of me or someone else then they are just being hateful and judgemental of anothers personality. If asked that question by an adult, I don't think I would take offense persay, but I have not been asked that before. I have, however, sensed that question in their eyes, you know what I'm talking about? When they kind of look at you inquisitively...

Leading to your other question - I have been mistaken for the wrong gender before (called sir or young man) and it doesn't really bother me...I just smile and carry on because it's usually an elderly person who isn't really looking directly at me or someone calling out from behind me. Because let's face it...sometimes you just can't tell if someone is male or female.

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That answered it perfectly. Thanks!
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Could I ask the reasoning behind your question? Just curious
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Could I ask the reasoning behind your question? Just curious
I had a recent experience with this, actually, detailed in this thread, so I figured I'd get different perspectives.Confusing a stranger's gender
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I had a recent experience with this, actually, detailed in this thread, so I figured I'd get different perspectives.
I see...I'll read that thread. tnx

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You are another "gender non-conformist" I take it?
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You are another "gender non-conformist" I take it?
Oh no, I'm a really guy, guy. I meant about the church and Bible time.
oh haha. I too have fond memories of Bible time as a kid and this is my first year helping out as the "Game Director." It's pretty fun so far...but yes, I'm in church and know that Jesus came to die for my sins to give me the victory over sin for which he was crucified. So yeah, I'm Christian and not ashamed to tell you or anyone

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I feel good knowing there is another here maybe from a similar background as me. Thank you for posting this.
You are another "gender non-conformist" I take it?
Oh no, I'm a really guy, guy. I meant about the church and Bible time.
oh haha. I too have fond memories of Bible time as a kid and this is my first year helping out as the "Game Director." It's pretty fun so far...but yes, I'm in church and know that Jesus came to die for my sins to give me the victory over sin for which he was crucified. So yeah, I'm Christian and not ashamed to tell you or anyone
Awesome.
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Children have a greater sense of what is good and evil than adults do because children have not grown to that thorny period where they become cynical of the world. Doesn't mean they always do the right thing, but they understand it better.
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Children have a greater sense of what is good and evil than adults do because children have not grown to that thorny period where they become cynical of the world. Doesn't mean they always do the right thing, but they understand it better.
It is true. I know I have become cynical. Call it product of happenstance, but it just soomething that happens to everyone eventually.
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