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Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by LaplaceScramble, Jun 30, 2012.

  1. LaplaceScramble

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    I'm tired of where I'm living, and I plan on moving to a european country. Anybody here that lives in any such countries care to tell me about their country? I've looked at books and websites, but getting personal opinions would be much nicer.
     
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    Youll have to change your username :slight_smile:
     
  3. LaplaceScramble

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    Ya....but that's only a minor detail hahaha
     
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    What languages do you speak? Would you be willing to learn a new language to move away? I can tell you about Ireland, and a bit about England and Germany if you're interested in any of them.
     
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    Well, besides english, european languages I can speak are basic french (currently taking classes) and a bit of dutch. I'm also a quick learner when it comes to languages, so yes, I'd be willing to learn. I'd love to hear about Ireland.
     
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    I live in Wales, so I could tell you a bit about that? :slight_smile:
     
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    I'm not sure what you want to know exactly, if you have any specific questions I can tell you about England (more specifically London, I've never lived anywhere else in the country, although I have travelled around it to some other big cities quite a bit)
     
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    You're also are gonna have to look at each countries individual immigration policies. I know European Union nations have stricter immigration policies than those that aren't part of the union. Also remember the economy isn't the greatest over there right now.

    And I know that the UK isn't even part of the EU, but that's ridiculously hard to get into as well.

    My opinion to avoid:
    - Greece (duh)
    - Spain (duh)
    - South Italy (North Italy seems generally okay - south Italy tends to spawns civil unrest, riots, protests and strikes often)
    - I'd even suggest France at the moment with the new Socialist party taking over, at least until we get a clear picture of how they'll handle the economy of there so you won't be caught up in all that.

    The problem is a lot of these places you can't just "decide to move there". The majority of European countries at the moment actually don't want immigrants. A lot of political parties there are hostile to immigrants, Italy has a massive illegal immigration issue so they aren't hot on it either, etc.

    You can, however, get a LOT of opportunities to study abroad and get job opportunities to teach and transfer in Europe which ease it a lot more. But actual immigration to Europe is hard as hell depending on where you go. But, to be fair, you can get lucky.

    Not trying to be a downer. Just being realistic about the moving process, from experience.
     
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    We are part of the EU. But what you're saying is basically true, unless you're a citizen of an EU country, it is hard to move to an EU country.
     
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    I can tell you about Slovenia :slight_smile:
    I don't really recommend it, it might look nice and people friendly but christianity is still very strong and LGBT people have very little rights...
    Also, language is hard to learn, but most of us does speak English or some other more important language :slight_smile:
     
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    Thanks for reminding me. :slight_smile: I always seem to think the UK isn't because you guys don't use the Euro. For whatever reason that throws me WAY off.
     
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    Ow, wasn't aware of the rough immigration spot I was in. If I ended up going to a european country, it'd be after applying to a company there, so I know that would make it simpler to get in. (i.e. the Bioware branch thats in Ireland).

    As far as being specific, I honestly don't really know what to say. most stuff I can just find on the internet, so just what people have to say about where they're living, I guess.
     
  13. I can tell you about Norway?

    I have/had plans to move there. It's a complicated situation at the moment. But, I've spent nearly 6 years of my life investing my time into learning the language, learning about everything. Made some friends over there, learnt about rules. Blah, blah, blah.

    I've been there as part of work experience as well.

    So, I'm not an actual citizen, but I'd be able to give you an idea. Could give you multiple resources that I've been given...if that's what you wanted...Have friends and pen pals from Germany, France, Sweden, Ireland...who I could ask for information?

    Just giving you a heads up. It is very difficult to up and move yourself to another country, especially just doing it alone. Not sure if this is a permanent move, or just looking to travel and spend some time abroad for a little bit. Otherwise you could look at a student exchange or something..

    Not meaning to discourage the whole thing. Just make sure that it would be something you really wanted to do, and really look into "Why do I want to move to another country?" because it's not as easy as just, packing a suitcase, and there I am.

    Wherever you go, it's completely new laws and legislations, you may need to learn a new language. How are you going to go about finding a job? What about a place to stay? Work and Resident VISAS? Etc. etc.
     
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    I don't plan on just packing a bag and running to any specific country, but I'm just trying to find information about as many places as possible, as quick as possible, so that I can work on researching the countries that are the best suited for what I'm looking for (lgbt climate, jobs, crime rate, taxes, population, and all the other fun stuff that comes with living somewhere.)
     
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    Ireland:

    -Not far after Greece and Spain on the list of countries most hit by the recession; most people are leaving the country rather than moving there. I'd only move to Ireland if you are fairly certain of being offered a job, preferrably if you've already been offered a job.

    -Accommodation shouldn't be too hard to find(at all!)- similar situation to Spain, before the recession there were more houses/appartments built than there was a demand for.

    -The crime rate is low, except in certain areas of Dublin and Limerick. People still leave their doors unlocked in a lot of villages.

    -There are a few big cities, but most of the country is very rural, lots of small towns. If you were thinking about moving to Ireland I'd recommend moving to a city, since there are very few facilities in the rest of the country.

    -LGBT climate; the bigger cities are obviously the most accepting - particularly Dublin, or anywhere with a large student population. Dublin is probably one of the few places in the country where it's easy enough to meet other LGBT people. There is a big generational difference in attitudes, people our age are generally pretty accepting, the older generation, not so much. It's actually a bit hard to judge attitudes in the countryside, it's really not a subject that gets spoken about there. In rural areas, there aren't that many people out, so you could easily end up being the only openly LGBT person in the village. Catholicism is still pretty strong, but homophobia doesn't have the same emphasis in the irish church as there seems to be in the US.

    -The people are friendly, the country is beautiful and if you like the outdoors you're sorted. If you moved to Ireland, people would question your sanity, considering most irish people our age are emmigrating to the US, Australia or Canada.
     
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    Thanks for all that Catkin. You wouldn't happen to know anything about Galway, would you?
     
  17. i have lived in both england and scotland.

    i would advise you, that you stick to main cities or big cities otherwise there will probably be a lot of trouble around lgbt issues. thats probably the same for everywhere though.

    i dont know what you really want to know though haha. care to elaborate?
     
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    flyinhernikes, you said you know Scotland...
    It is possible that I'll move there to study...do you happen to know how it is in Glasgow? :slight_smile:
     
  19. glasgow.... its not one of my favourite places, mostly because the people are quite... brash if thats the right word (ive found anyway), edinburgh is so much better.

    glasgow is more for crime and things, and you have to be careful. so i stay well away from it. i think its like the 'london' of scotland, its a bit hit and miss, if that makes sense.

    edinburgh tends to have the 'better' class of people and you dont get hardly any hassle lgbt wise. i love it, but i wouldnt really reccommend glasgow as one of the better places in scotland lol. learning wise i think it has a few good unis though so youre sorted for school and things, shops are better there than edinburgh aswell. i dont really know what you were asking for though haha, hope this helps :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:
     
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    well if I'll go to Scotland (still waiting my results) it will be Glasgow, 'cause I don't have other choices really :grin:
    I've heard it's quite a nice town though :slight_smile: Thanks for answering, it helps :slight_smile: