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Is anyone 100% straight and 100% gay?

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by wonderingdave01, Sep 22, 2012.

  1. A few days ago, at the LGBT center I go to, there is a girl who identifies as queer. So far she posed an interesting opinion that I've heard before that no one is "100% straight". I didn't really know what to say but a couple of kids agreed with her with an exception for one guy. Most people at the table identified as "queer", not gay (and I'm bisexual) but the one guy who disagreed with her identified as gay because she went on two describe how it's hard to understand how you be attracted to one sex. This got me thinking....

    I've been hearing this a lot that no one is 100% gay or straight.

    I think there are people who are though. What do you guys think?
     
  2. King

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    That's bullshit.

    Straight up, that's what it is. It's like the Kinsey Scale, which I'm an avid hater of.
    PEOPLE ARE GAY, BI, STRAIGHT, OR ASEXUAL. I'm really sick and tired of people claiming otherwise. I indentified as GAY because I was attracted to men - I didn't identify as BISEXUAL because I'm NOT attracted to girls.

    Sorry, the idea of that is just a huge piss off.

    EDIT: It's incredibly important to understand that not everybody is any shade of bisexual. I'm not. Who are others to tell me that I'm really bisexual with a preference?
     
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    It depends is you mean biologically or pyschologically. Biologically, no the spectrum of attraction is much more specific in not just humans, but in all creatures. Though biologically attraction doesnt really have much of a use in human perspective or society. Pyschological attraction is really the only attraction that can apply to our society.

    In that case, definitely. I myself am 0% sexually attracted to women. I do not find them ugly, however, there is just literally nothing I could think I would want to do with them. The mind is most certainly selective. Some people who identify as pansexual, bisexual, queer sometimes believe that "it doesnt matter for them". But in reality it does. It isnt that it doesnt matter, but rather that they have the capability to be attracted to a much more diverse group of people. It cant not, not matter because attraction is a scientific, chemical response at it core.
     
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    Everyone has a different idea on what's actually "true". Ultimately, what people decide to label or quantify their sexuality as is their personal decision. I personally identify as gay. I'm sure I could throw in the "but I'm not opposed to meeting my one true love, even if she's a girl", but in my near 21 years of life I have never been sexually attracted to a female. So for all intents and purposes, I guess I'd consider myself "100% gay".

    Though, psychologically speaking, males are much more likely to identify as exclusively gay or straight, whereas females are more likely to identify as some degree of bisexual. Of course this doesn't apply to everyone, but according to studies that's what's normative.
     
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    Why should you be sorry that it pisses you off? You're allowed to get angry and let people know it sometimes.

    I think this is part of bisexual superiority complex. No, not everyone is bisexual. If that were true, I'd be a man swimming in romantic delight.

    People who say this are usually bisexual, and it's a really offensive, insensitive thing to say. And I don't get how so many bi folks say this when they find that their identities are getting denied and marginalized by a whole lot of gay and lesbian folks. It's not okay to turn around and deny gay and straight sexualities.
     
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    Personally I feel that I'm what I guess is, one of few, 100% gay people. I am extremely into guys, feelings and attraction wise, and I pretty much always have been. Day to day, girls hardly even register to me. I couldn't tell you anything about any female I might have passed by, whereas with guys, I can give a laundry list, lol. This might come off the wrong way, but I even find it a bit hard to want to be friends with females, especially the older I get, for some reason. In high school I had mostly female friends, but at that time life was a bit different. Since then I haven't befriended a female. It's like I have a strong desire to just be around [gay] guys. :shrug:

    Another example could be porn. I can only strictly get off to gay porn, even since I was little and first discovered porn. Seeing and hearing a female in straight porn is a huge turn off. But yeah, I'd say I'm pretty much 0% attracted to females. I don't want to sound like a woman hater or anything, because I'm definitely not. I just don't find them desirable at all.
     
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    I identity as gay yet I wouldn't say I'm 100% gay. I decided to label myself as gay because my attraction to guys is too insignificant, i.e quite rare, and because I'm no longer seeking a relationship with a guy.
    Having said that, I'm sure there are people who believe they are 100% gay and that's fine with me.
     
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    I've only been interested in guys all my life. I tried to convince myself otherwise, but it was futile. My "attraction" to them was just a strong urge to be friends. Once I dated another guy, I found that there is no possible way I could ever love a girl in a non-platonic manner.

    I love my gal pals, just not like that. It's not to be mean or anything, I just can't imagine myself being with a woman without getting a weird feeling in the pit of my stomach. I just can't picture it, it's not like I get sick when I see a girl, just I don't want to be more than friends.
     
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    While I do agree with using the Kinsey scale purely for the sake of conversation, it doesn't have practical use.

    For me, I do believe I have somewhat of an attraction to women that is not as strong as my attraction for men. I could go ahead and say I'm- oh, I don't know- 70/30 or 60/40 or 66.66666..../33.33333..... But that doesn't suddenly mean I believe there's a 30% chance that I could have a successful relationship with the opposite sex. I say I'm gay, plain and simple because a relationship with a woman just isn't going to happen. No good can come out of me trying to pursue one.

    In our everyday lives, I really prefer people just commit to gay, straight, or bisexual. Even if you had a 1/4 attraction to the opposite sex, that variance is almost a moot point because you're just not going to date somebody of the opposite sex. At best, you might get the same thrill your straight friends get from the woman bursting out of the cake at a bachelor party.
     
  10. Thanks everyone. I always held the idea that no one's sexuality should be invalidated. I just want to remind everyone that I don't agree with her, but the reason I posted this thread is because I've been hearing opinions like this and I just wanted to see everyone's take on it.
     
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    I've tried coffee twice in my life. Just never liked it, tried it a couple times to make sure, but decided nope, not a fan.

    So here's the question. Am I a coffee drinker?

    According to ths girl, I am. I mean, I drank coffee twice. So that means I'm not 100% a coffee abstainer, so I'm a coffee drinker.

    But let's ask another question. Should Starbucks aim coffee advertising in my direction? Presumably not. The odds that I'd be drawn to their coffee drink is extremely remote. Their money would be better spent elsewhere. So you might say, in a practical sense, I'm not a coffee drinker.

    I think this sums up the sexuality debate fairly well. I think everybody might have a stray gay/straight thought or mild fantasy once in a great while, even if they identify as straight/gay. But the odds of anything resulting from that "aberration" are extremely remote. If you were a straight woman, you would had to hit me up not just at my horniest but at my most "I'm open to anything" periods, which are extremely rare. Could you have successfully wooed me into bed? Yeah, I guess. Starbucks might have sold me a coffee drink, too, but the odds are way against it.

    The thing is - people love to hold on to the first definition. Because if everybody is technically bisexual, you have a chance with sleeping with absolutely everybody on the planet. And that's nt an easy belief to give up. But to me, it's better to play by the Starbucks rules - concentrate your efforts on those most likely to respond favorably.

    Lex
     
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    Ya, we totally get that, and neither King or I were attacking you. :kiss:
     
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    Personally, I don't believe that anyone is 100% anything. Don't get bogged down in labels. When you start trying to cram yourself into one label or another, you will never feel right about yourself. I am physically attracted to men and have enjoyed their company for most of my life, but have zero interest in having a relationship with one of them. My desire for a long-term relationship circles around women. Mentally and emotionally, I find them more successful than men. I enjoy looking at men and sex with them. But I don't think I could even consider truly loving a man. The deep connections that women form, the understanding, the emotions... Those things and more are what motivate me towards relationships with women. But regardless of all that, I have no desire to rule out a chance at love because I've labeled myself as one thing or another.
     
  14. Oh ok :slight_smile: Sorry, I just want to make sure there's no misunderstanding. (&&&)
     
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    I think it's all about perspective. I mean, I could say a girl is attractive, but not in a sexual way. I would say I'm 100% gay. I have never been sexually attracted to a woman. That is that.
     
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    I believe SOME people are exclusively heterosexual and homosexual.

    More importantly I believe MOST people are not. I honestly think the kinsey scale is an overly simplistic understanding of human sexual nature.

    Human sexuality doesn't fit neatly into a few terms. We are far more complex than that. I believe some people really are just into one gender, but they are the minority.
     
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    Yup, there are people like that. If sexuality is a spectrum, then there are going to be some people that are at either extreme of the spectrum.
     
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    ^ My thoughts exactly.
     
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    I agree that some may be 100% gay or straight, but I don't think it's the norm. Regardless of if they acknowledge it or not, I think the majority of people have some level of attraction to each sex, whether it be physical, mental, sexual, spiritual, etc.
     
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    Kinsey's research, as flawed as it was,viewed sexuality as a spectrum, from 0 (totally straight) to 6 (totally gay). Kinsey's research said that only about 10% of people were at either end of the spectrum, and everyone else is in the middle.

    I've met people who probably qualify as Kinsey 0 and others who probably qualify as Kinsey 6. These are people that I think would pass out at the thought of having to do something with other than their attracted sex. But those people do seem to be in the minority, both from the data and from my personal experience.

    I do think that most people cluster at one end or the other; technically, Lex would be a Kinsey 1 on the 0-to-6 "coffee drinker" scale, but as he said, that's somewhat deceptive because he's already tried it and it's not for him. And I think the same is true for many of the Kinsey 1s and 5s.