Two days ago, I typed "men who love other men" on google, in order to see cute and sexy pics of two guys kissing and making love. What I found, however, was very different. I stumbled upon a website named g0ys.com, which is for "men who love masculinity but dont identify as gay". Its a very unique webite. Remember the kinsey scale? These guys firmly believe in it, and proudly state that they all had homossexual activity at least once in their lives, with friends they really cared about. And it happened quite often with them, in childhood, as teens, sleep overs, etc. It was just a way to bond thay truly connected them with other man. The creator of the website even says that "the best way to maintain a friendship for years is to also make it physical". However, although certainly not homophobic, this website REALLY despises anal sex and the gay community, because, according to them, it deems anal and effeminate "unnatural" behavior as something that should be acceptable. For them, being penetrated by another man will only spread pain and diseases. More, they think men who identify as gay are responsible for their own discrimination, for acting in a way that causes homophobes to despise them. Personally, Im quite divided towards this group. On the one hand I would love it if straight men had the same sexual freedom with friends and men in general as straight women have, without the silly "one drop rule" that permeates society. But on the other I think its unfair to criticize the behavior of people who are born with effeminate tendencies to begin with. Anyway, what do you guys think? Heres the link: G0YS.org - GUYS who love Masculinity, but don't identify as Gay! PS: Please actually read the website before commenting on this thread. Only them you can make a good judgment on what they really think.
Its a bunch of bull. Its basically gay men who despise the stereotype of what a gay man is portrayed to be. They believe that you can be gay, but that you don't have to act like women (be effeminate) or be submissive (like a women) in order to be with guys. It all wouldn't be a problem, but, since they deal with a lot of internalized homophobia, one of their main concepts is that the gay community is pretty much shit and evil. That we have wronged men like them and that we need to knock it off. A lot of them also like quoting and mentioning that back in the day men having sex with men used to be normal, but they forget to mention that in most of those societies you could not have sex with other men unless they were slaves or young boys.
I skimmed it. It seems really silly. Or rather, a healthy effort at justifying why they can like men but not be gay. I lol'd.
Uh.. wat. I haven't even clicked the link (at least not yet), and that seems very contradictory... You say it's not homophobic.. and then say that it deems this all "unnatural", that it assumes diseases will be spread (news flash, it happens with ALL sexual orientations, so really, just sex in general), and says we're responsible for people hating us... Disprove what I just said.. Because I don't believe it.
Well, sorry if I wrote it badly. I just think its really strange for a homophobic website to proclaim the love and sex between men at the same time.
It always floors me the extent that some people will go to to maintain their denial. Among another community where I occasionally post, there's a group of people who are in relationships with men, have anal sex with men, and never have any relationships/hookups/sex with women and yet... they say they aren't gay. They use every possible excuse in the book to rationalize why they're with men, but what it boils down to is very carefully cultivated denial. And it's BS I suppose there's a school of thought that says "ok, let them have their beliefs." And I get that. But the part I have problems with is they're obviously miserable, since they spend so much time denying they're gay. And they don't get that if they could just accept it, there's a whole side of themselves they could embrace and love instead of trying to reject.
"Like riddles? Here's one that might save your love life (& your life in general)! Fact: In order for a condom to "help prevent disease", it must 1st be used in a manner that increases the risk of disease! Fact: There is a group of men who are sexually active with men & have the lowest rates of STDs -despite the fact that they rarely -if ever use condoms! Why/How can this be true!?" That's a direct quotes from their website... I don't even know. Does this mean that giving a blow job is not considered submissive? On top of that 90% of the website is dedicated towards finding hook ups.
As others said, they are dealing with internalized homophobia. They acknowledge the discrimination of the LGBTQ community and they refuse to believe they are a part of a "lesser group." Thus, they say, "well the gay community is wrong, but I'm not like them. I'm masculine and tough and I don't have anal sex. I'm just as good as the straights but they are making me look bad." Its immature of them and depressing the lengths they go to dissociate themselves from a persecuted demographic.
anal sex=/= not masculine. in fact, in some porn i have seen, some women would wear strap on dildo and butt the man.... (whether those actors are bi or straight i can't remember.) that sounds like those people who are part of a race, but acts like another race to dissociate themself
When it comes to people like the ones on that site, the words "Thou doth protest too much" comes to mind. I actually find it sad the lengths they go through to explain away their existence. They insist they're not gay with utter devotion. And yet, no gay man I have met talks about man-on-man sexual activity nearly as much as they do on that site. I mean, they elevate it to the level of poetry. That sounds pretty damn gay to me.
Hmm, had a tough time with this one..... Couldn't decide which pic I wanted to use to blatantly summarize my thoughts... or ?
So they think we're a bunch of poofs and think anal sex is bad. So what the fuck do you do anyway? Pet each other all the time?! Ya, and Eddie Izzard is so feminine... :rolle:
