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Psychedelic Bookmarks · 26th Feb 2008, 09:58 AM

This was a programme I watched last night on BBC2. In Iran, homosexuality is punishable by prison and stoning, but sex changes are legal. They perform loads of operations there.

The documentary followed some men who were considering having the surgery. It was so sad. Lots of them just seemed to be gay men, who could see no other way to be with men than to become women. It was heart-breaking - often they are cut off by their family, go into prostitution on the streets etc. Women do it too (oppositely, obviously), but it didn't follow any.

It was such a well-made, tragic documentary, and exposed all the hypocrisy and fallacies in the Iranian legal system.

This needs to change.

26th Feb 2008, 09:59 AM

I don't know how i'd be able to live as a woman =/ I enjoy my male aspects too much. So cruel ~

beckyg · 26th Feb 2008, 10:01 AM

Oh that is so horrible.

Gustav · 26th Feb 2008, 10:24 AM

wow. . .i can't believe that they would allow sex changes.

divadarya · 26th Feb 2008, 11:18 AM

I know what it's like to not be free to be yourself. Gender and sexuality are two very different conversations; it's tragic to tell a gay man he must be a woman to express himself, just as it's tragic to tell an MTF Transsexual that she should "just get over it and admit you're a gay man".
I weep for them.

Psychedelic Bookmarks · 26th Feb 2008, 11:28 AM

Well said Darya. It was a very tragic documentary.

Paul_UK · 26th Feb 2008, 01:56 PM

It is available here http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/page/item/b0092wrz.shtml for another six days. However it may not be available if you have a non-UK IP address.

pirateninja · 26th Feb 2008, 02:20 PM

Wow.

I watched the first few minutes of the doctor explaining to the woman that if she tells the psychiatrist her feelings toward women, she will be branded a lunatic and be able to get her operation. And her gratitude, "I owe you my life, I'll give you everything I have".

Even just that made me well up.

26th Feb 2008, 09:58 AM	#1
Psychedelic Bookmarks Helena Full Member Gender: Female Orientation: Bisexual Out Status: Close family and quite a few friends Location: UK Age: 18 Posts: 2,195 Join Date: Oct 2007	"Transexuals in Iran" documentary This was a programme I watched last night on BBC2. In Iran, homosexuality is punishable by prison and stoning, but sex changes are legal. They perform loads of operations there. The documentary followed some men who were considering having the surgery. It was so sad. Lots of them just seemed to be gay men, who could see no other way to be with men than to become women. It was heart-breaking - often they are cut off by their family, go into prostitution on the streets etc. Women do it too (oppositely, obviously), but it didn't follow any. It was such a well-made, tragic documentary, and exposed all the hypocrisy and fallacies in the Iranian legal system. This needs to change. __________________ "I refuse to recognize the terms hetero-, bi-, and homo-sexual. Everybody has exactly the same sexual needs. People are just sexual, the prefix is immaterial." (Morissey)

26th Feb 2008, 09:59 AM	#2
Ty Guest Posts: n/a	Re: "Transexuals in Iran" documentary I don't know how i'd be able to live as a woman =/ I enjoy my male aspects too much. So cruel ~

26th Feb 2008, 10:01 AM	#3
beckyg PFLAG Mom Community Liaison Gender: Female Orientation: Straight Out Status: Out to everyone/Yes, parents come out too! Location: Middle of Oregon Age: 50 Posts: 7,572 Join Date: Mar 2007	Re: "Transexuals in Iran" documentary Oh that is so horrible. __________________ "When we're free to love anyone we choose, When this worlds big enough for all different views, When we're all free to worship from our own kind of pew, Then we shall be free" ~ Garth Brooks

26th Feb 2008, 10:24 AM	#4
Gustav EC Addict Regular Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gee Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Clarks summit, PA Age: 21 Posts: 261 Join Date: Jan 2008	Re: "Transexuals in Iran" documentary wow. . .i can't believe that they would allow sex changes. __________________ "Ulcers are not caused so much by what we eat, but what is eating at us." "Our wretched species is so made that those who walk on the well-trodden path always throw stones at those who are opening a new road." Voltaire.

26th Feb 2008, 11:18 AM	#5
divadarya Warrior Princess Full Member Gender: MTF Transsexual Orientation: Trans/heteroish(I like men) Out Status: Some people Location: Native Los Angeleno, California Age: 60 Posts: 321 Join Date: Jan 2008	Re: "Transexuals in Iran" documentary I know what it's like to not be free to be yourself. Gender and sexuality are two very different conversations; it's tragic to tell a gay man he must be a woman to express himself, just as it's tragic to tell an MTF Transsexual that she should "just get over it and admit you're a gay man". I weep for them. __________________ "I was as pure as the driven snow, but I drifted...." Mae West I am more than my Gender, or the clothes that I wear....

26th Feb 2008, 11:28 AM	#6
Psychedelic Bookmarks Helena Full Member Gender: Female Orientation: Bisexual Out Status: Close family and quite a few friends Location: UK Age: 18 Posts: 2,195 Join Date: Oct 2007	Re: "Transexuals in Iran" documentary Well said Darya. It was a very tragic documentary. __________________ "I refuse to recognize the terms hetero-, bi-, and homo-sexual. Everybody has exactly the same sexual needs. People are just sexual, the prefix is immaterial." (Morissey)

26th Feb 2008, 01:56 PM	#7
Paul_UK Former Empty Closets Admin Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Bournemouth, UK Age: 47 Posts: 13,155 Join Date: Nov 2004	Re: "Transexuals in Iran" documentary It is available here http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/page/item/b0092wrz.shtml for another six days. However it may not be available if you have a non-UK IP address. __________________ Paul

26th Feb 2008, 02:20 PM	#8
pirateninja EC's Sailor Uranus Full Member Gender: Biologically Female Orientation: Heterosexually Challenged Out Status: Most people Location: Bath, England Age: 21 Posts: 5,853 Join Date: Sep 2007	Re: "Transexuals in Iran" documentary Wow. I watched the first few minutes of the doctor explaining to the woman that if she tells the psychiatrist her feelings toward women, she will be branded a lunatic and be able to get her operation. And her gratitude, "I owe you my life, I'll give you everything I have". Even just that made me well up. __________________ Holly the Pirateninja Ars Longa, Vita Brevis.

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