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Alexander · 5th Mar 2008, 07:07 AM

DISCLAIMER: This is assuming that there are either mental or physical things we can do to change our sexuality, which I don't think is possible at all.

If we all have the choice to be gay, don't we also have the choice to be straight? Why would we choose to be gay (what are the advantages)? What makes being straight the "right" choice? Discuss.

ahh and please avoid turning this into a completely religious argument, thanks

**Martin** · 5th Mar 2008, 07:23 AM

Yes, most people who say that being gay is a choice do also say being straight is a choice. It seems a bit silly to me though as the only choice we have is whether to act on our feelings. We don't have complete control over them.

It's society that says being straight is the norm. I don't think it is just religion that affacts how people see homosexuality as half the idiots who are homophobic aren't capable of even reading a book, so the bible is out.

People just decide to be afraid and against things they don't understand. It's a bit stupid really because they usually end up wasting so much time being against it when they could either try and learn to understand it or just ignore it.

I personally think people who are racist, homophobic etc are an underclass group seen as they don't have basic manners in society.

pirateninja · 5th Mar 2008, 08:04 AM

Man has penis. Woman has vagina. Penis goes into vagina. Baby is born. The species repopulates.

Unfortunately, that is nature. And although nature doesn't account for personal feelings, it gives the homophobes a damn good argument for "straight is right".

However, in this word of over 6 billion residents (and still growing!) because babies are being born more rapidly, either due to people having sex younger or lack of contraception in many parts, what the world currently needs is a load of gay couples willing to adopt, or else the "breeders" will continue to overpopulate our planet and fill up our orphanages

However, many people currently still abide by the "penis, vagina, repopulate" rule. Because they're idiots who rely on primitive rule in a rapidly changing world.

heatqueen · 5th Mar 2008, 08:05 AM

Choice?! I spent 2 years trying to choose to be straight!! Did it work? No. I'm as gay as ever. And besides, even if straightness was a choice, I wouldn't choose it!! (No offence boys) I'm happy being gay.

pirateninja · 5th Mar 2008, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by heatqueen

Choice?! I spent 2 years trying to choose to be straight!! Did it work? No. I'm as gay as ever. And besides, even if straightness was a choice, I wouldn't choose it!! (No offence boys) I'm happy being gay.

I have to say, if I'd have known from the start that my mom and my friends would be completely cool with it, then if it was a choice, I would have chosen it. Nearly every straight man I know is an asshole, and I couldn't imagine the thought of being attracted to them.

Penis? Blech. Women are so much nicer

Chamber of Life · 5th Mar 2008, 08:34 AM

I think when people say that gays or lesbians choose to be gay that’s straight up bull! Before I came to terms with my homosexuality I tried to hard to "choose" to be straight and guess what............ Still gay and always will be until the day I'm six feet under (great show by the way) or in one of those vase thingies. You can choose some people are born heterosexual and some are born homosexual. OH yeah and you can be born being attracted to both.

5th Mar 2008, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by pirateninja

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Originally Posted by heatqueen

Choice?! I spent 2 years trying to choose to be straight!! Did it work? No. I'm as gay as ever. And besides, even if straightness was a choice, I wouldn't choose it!! (No offence boys) I'm happy being gay.

I have to say, if I'd have known from the start that my mom and my friends would be completely cool with it, then if it was a choice, I would have chosen it. Nearly every straight man I know is an asshole, and I couldn't imagine the thought of being attracted to them.

Penis? Blech. Women are so much nicer

So.... every gay man and every lesbian woman partner up!

Psychedelic Bookmarks · 5th Mar 2008, 09:42 AM

If it was a choice, the only reason to choose to be gay would be because you were intimidated by the other sex. Or, perhaps, you wanted to live an "alternative" lifestyle and have a social life with non-mainstream people.

Choices to be straight abound, however - mainly because that's the norm and the easier life it entails.

5th Mar 2008, 07:07 AM	#1
Alexander EC Addict Full Member Gender: Male Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Red Hook NY Age: 19 Posts: 2,736 Join Date: Dec 2007	Let's assume that you can choose to be gay. DISCLAIMER: This is assuming that there are either mental or physical things we can do to change our sexuality, which I don't think is possible at all. If we all have the choice to be gay, don't we also have the choice to be straight? Why would we choose to be gay (what are the advantages)? What makes being straight the "right" choice? Discuss. ahh and please avoid turning this into a completely religious argument, thanks

5th Mar 2008, 07:23 AM	#2
Martin EC's Red Queen EC Admin Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Some people Location: Merseyside, UK Age: 21 Posts: 8,047 Join Date: Nov 2007	Re: Let's assume that you can choose to be gay. Yes, most people who say that being gay is a choice do also say being straight is a choice. It seems a bit silly to me though as the only choice we have is whether to act on our feelings. We don't have complete control over them. It's society that says being straight is the norm. I don't think it is just religion that affacts how people see homosexuality as half the idiots who are homophobic aren't capable of even reading a book, so the bible is out. People just decide to be afraid and against things they don't understand. It's a bit stupid really because they usually end up wasting so much time being against it when they could either try and learn to understand it or just ignore it. I personally think people who are racist, homophobic etc are an underclass group seen as they don't have basic manners in society. __________________ The blue whale ejaculates up to 40 gallons during sexual intercourse, but only 10 gallons enters the female. Do you still wonder why the sea tastes salty?

5th Mar 2008, 08:04 AM	#3
pirateninja EC's Sailor Uranus Full Member Gender: Biologically Female Orientation: Heterosexually Challenged Out Status: Most people Location: Bath, England Age: 21 Posts: 5,853 Join Date: Sep 2007	Re: Let's assume that you can choose to be gay. Man has penis. Woman has vagina. Penis goes into vagina. Baby is born. The species repopulates. Unfortunately, that is nature. And although nature doesn't account for personal feelings, it gives the homophobes a damn good argument for "straight is right". However, in this word of over 6 billion residents (and still growing!) because babies are being born more rapidly, either due to people having sex younger or lack of contraception in many parts, what the world currently needs is a load of gay couples willing to adopt, or else the "breeders" will continue to overpopulate our planet and fill up our orphanages However, many people currently still abide by the "penis, vagina, repopulate" rule. Because they're idiots who rely on primitive rule in a rapidly changing world. __________________ Holly the Pirateninja Ars Longa, Vita Brevis.

5th Mar 2008, 08:05 AM	#4
heatqueen Official #1 fan of Celine Dion Full Member Gender: Female Orientation: Pansexual/Homoromantic bisexual Out Status: Generally whoever asks Location: I travel a lot Age: 20 Posts: 5,706 Join Date: Jan 2008	Re: Let's assume that you can choose to be gay. Choice?! I spent 2 years trying to choose to be straight!! Did it work? No. I'm as gay as ever. And besides, even if straightness was a choice, I wouldn't choose it!! (No offence boys) I'm happy being gay. __________________ Don't drink and drive. You might hit a bump and spill your drink. Co-founder of the 'Sailor Moon Made Me Gay' club...and the lesbians.

5th Mar 2008, 08:34 AM	#6
Chamber of Life In my Naughty Tree!!! Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Most of my friends. Location: Ohio, USA Age: 21 Posts: 288 Join Date: Feb 2008	Re: Let's assume that you can choose to be gay. I think when people say that gays or lesbians choose to be gay that’s straight up bull! Before I came to terms with my homosexuality I tried to hard to "choose" to be straight and guess what............ Still gay and always will be until the day I'm six feet under (great show by the way) or in one of those vase thingies. You can choose some people are born heterosexual and some are born homosexual. OH yeah and you can be born being attracted to both.

5th Mar 2008, 09:42 AM	#8
Psychedelic Bookmarks Helena Full Member Gender: Female Orientation: Bisexual Out Status: Close family and quite a few friends Location: UK Age: 18 Posts: 2,195 Join Date: Oct 2007	Re: Let's assume that you can choose to be gay. If it was a choice, the only reason to choose to be gay would be because you were intimidated by the other sex. Or, perhaps, you wanted to live an "alternative" lifestyle and have a social life with non-mainstream people. Choices to be straight abound, however - mainly because that's the norm and the easier life it entails. __________________ "I refuse to recognize the terms hetero-, bi-, and homo-sexual. Everybody has exactly the same sexual needs. People are just sexual, the prefix is immaterial." (Morissey)

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