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| WWJD? Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: 175er Out Status: Some people Location: Far far away Age: 21 Posts: 558 Join Date: Aug 2007 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=tMi1n1GekF0 Hepcat showed me this interview of Stephen Fry. It is about 50min long so I don't expect you all to watch it, but I found it really interesting. The thing I wanted to discuss though is a point brought up by Fry. He says he was unhappy by the way he looked because he was not the type of person he would fancy (he's gay btw). He made the point that this was more difficult for gay people because we are attracted to the same gender and therefor care more, and can get more depressed, about the way we look. While straight people wouldn't have the same problem since they don't have any desire to look like the kind of person they'll fancy. Does he make a good point? Any other thoughs on the subject? |
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| Is mise Daibhidh Full Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Almost out to everyone Location: Scotland Age: 25 Posts: 434 Join Date: Sep 2007 | I think this makes sense, if I don't find myself attractive then I don't see how anyone else will, it is quite depressing. Perhaps the more attractive people on this forum will think differently. I love Stephen, I'll have to watch this interview when I have more time |
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| Guest Posts: n/a | im watching it now. |
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| Helena Full Member ![]() Gender: Female Orientation: Bisexual Out Status: Close family and quite a few friends Location: UK Age: 18 Posts: 2,195 Join Date: Oct 2007 | I watched most of it but couldn't find the point you mention. I do think it sounds like an excellent point, though. I definately feel a lot of confusion about the difference between who I find attractive and who I want to be, whether there is a difference, whether I find myself attractive or who I hope is going to be attracted to me. I think that it is easier for straight people, usually, because the boundary between "ideal me" and "ideal partner" is a lot clearer.
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| EC's Biggest Horndog Full Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: A few people Location: Japan Age: 22 Posts: 3,017 Join Date: Feb 2007 | I think he makes good point, in some way. Though, I think not all of us wants to look like their fancy. Some people attracted to someone because they look different from them. Hmm...I feel like I'm slighty off topic somehow... BTW, I was defeated by the length of the clip ![]()
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| EC Addict Full Member ![]() Gender: Male Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Red Hook NY Age: 19 Posts: 2,736 Join Date: Dec 2007 | I definitely don't want to look like the type of person I fancy.. |
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| EC 'Dad' EC Advisor ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Toronto Age: 41 Posts: 7,449 Join Date: Mar 2007 | I don't think I look like the person I 'fancy'. I certainly would like to look better than I do - but I think that's a common problem for most people. The fact is though, that when you find the right person, they don't see ANY of the flaws that you see in yourself. They love you for you - and have no expectation or desire for you to look or be different. THAT is love.
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| Guest Posts: n/a | I can really relate with him =/ *watched it all* |
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| EC Addict Full Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: The pendulum swings wildly Out Status: 1 friend + mom Age: 20 Posts: 299 Join Date: Jul 2011 | This is weird, I've had the exact idea in my head for ages and can't recall ever having watched that clip! Probably picked it up subconciously. I thought it'd be an easy way for gay people to make themselves look as good as they want, by simply dressing like the sort of person who would turn their head so fast they'd get whiplash. Then again, I find the whole emo look attractive but don't want to dress like it. So I can see how the idea ain't for everyone. |
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| Member Regular Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Posts: 21 Join Date: Jul 2011 | hmmm. . . not sure if i completely agree. i mean, it DOES make sense and all, dun' get me wrong, but i dun' think i do it myself. i dress and do my hair in a way that i'll have confidence. i dun' really have to find myself attractive. i thrive on boldness and confidence; haha. as long as i get compliments or comments on my appearance (i have a girl friend who always tells me she likes my style; ahaa) at some point or another, i'm good. it's always nice to receive some recognition. dun' matter who from[: |
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| EC Addict Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Almost there Location: West Midlands Age: 20 Posts: 513 Join Date: May 2011 | The idea of being attracted to someone who looks like me kind of disturbs me in a way. ![]() But I'll definitely have to watch Stephen Fry's thoughts on it at some point, the man is awesome. ![]()
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| EC Addict Full Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: mission accomplished Location: Iowa Age: 20 Posts: 480 Join Date: Jan 2011 | The video is gone. Does anyone know of another place to find it? I'd love to watch it.
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| EC Addict Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Almost there Location: West Midlands Age: 20 Posts: 513 Join Date: May 2011 | Quote:
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| Get up and GO! Regular Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: growing every day Location: Minneapolis, MN Age: 19 Posts: 245 Join Date: Aug 2009 | Quote:
And this was exactly the thing that got me to start working out last summer, 2 months later and having lost 7-10 lbs I didn't even know I had to lose, I realized it was a bit ridiculous. But for some reason I had this mind set that I could never have the person I desire if I can't also give them exactly that in return. Edit!!! and holy crap just looked at the start date of this thread! Necro'd to the max! ![]()
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| EC Addict Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Almost there Location: West Midlands Age: 20 Posts: 513 Join Date: May 2011 | Quote:
![]() Physique will probably be a slight problem though, I have no real signs of muscle. ![]()
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| EC Addict Full Member ![]() Gender: M for MEEP! Orientation: Mutant and Proud Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Windsor, Ontario Age: 24 Posts: 6,564 Join Date: Jun 2005 | In the immortal words of RuPaul. If you can't love yourself, how in the hell are you going to love anybody else?
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