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Trumpetplyer23 · 17th Mar 2008, 12:16 PM

Okay, this is just a random question I thought of, there is no true right answer.

You're stranded on a deserted island, there are no trees and it gets so cold at night that if you didn't have a fire to keep you warm you'd freeze, okay? Now, you're stranded there with 2 items, a box of matches and a Holy Bible. You have to burn the Bible to stay warm to stay alive through the night. Do you think God would be angry with you for burning the Bible in this context?

NOTE: If you do not believe in God, pretend you do just for the sake of answering this question.

interstella · 17th Mar 2008, 12:27 PM

I don't think He would be angry because He would want me to survive.

dreamfinder · 17th Mar 2008, 12:28 PM

No, i think as long as you read the page that you are gonna burn its all good.

sngl · 17th Mar 2008, 12:38 PM

Well I don't exactly believe in God, but I don't think he would be angry at me for burning a bible in order to stay alive!! In fact, I think there's a christian teaching which says that you should be able to let go of everything when you have to, meaning that it's no good having objects or things whithout which you think you can't live. So even if I were really religious and I believed in God, it would be perfectly OK to burn a bible to stay alive.

Tim · 17th Mar 2008, 12:56 PM

No. He didn't create the bible you're reading. Man did. For all we know, man added stuff to it that god did not want. That is how I feel. In this case, God knows what's right and wrong. Some text won't matter, he'd much rather you survive. If it's your time, it's your time. If it's not, then you were meant to burn it.

**Owen** · 17th Mar 2008, 12:59 PM

I don't think he would care. He'd probably pity you if you hesitated to do it.

Psychedelic Bookmarks · 17th Mar 2008, 02:08 PM

No, God would want you to do it.

17th Mar 2008, 02:15 PM

i think he wouldn't care as ur life is already planned out of u(according to the bible) what u do is meant to happen(im a christian)

EDIT: since i think im gay, it means im not a christian cause the bible says dont have a sexual relation with any other man....

17th Mar 2008, 02:20 PM

Does the bible have an context page?? or the prouction pages? you could always use them

Steam Giant · 17th Mar 2008, 04:58 PM

When it comes down to it, you're only burning bleached, pressed wood pulp planes with styled ink on them. I think as long as you don't have malice in your heart during the burning (and God would know), you'll be fine ^^

Of course, I'm kind of an agnothiest :P

17th Mar 2008, 05:00 PM

God's word ain't a piece of paper, God's word is in your heart. I would burn it for my own survival. At the end there are millions and millions and milions of bibles.

Zak · 17th Mar 2008, 05:03 PM

I'd burn the pages about gays! lol, but yah, i am christian, and I would do anything to survive....well not....yah, anything!

NathanHaleFan · 17th Mar 2008, 05:43 PM

Well, Im an atheist, but if I did believe in a god, it would be one that didn't interfere in piddly human stuff. Just think: if a god is powerful enough to create the entire universe, then I think what one member of a billion species on one of a billion planets does is aboslutely insignifigant to such a god.

My $ .02

17th Mar 2008, 06:28 PM

I would burn the Bible. And I would not care much because I'm an atheist, lol.

justjoshoh · 18th Mar 2008, 12:55 AM

Well since we are talking the Bible, I assume it would be New Testament G-d. NTG is a lot more forgiving that Old Testament G-d. As a matter of fact, I hear all you have to do is confess all of your sins before you die and accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior and NTG lets you off the proverbial hook, as if taking a mulligan in golf. Burn the Bible, of course, it is only going to last so long... then you'll have to move on to your other reads like that Harry Potter series or the latest GQ.

heatqueen · 18th Mar 2008, 03:07 AM

Bibles must be sold all over the world. So once you get off that island, you can go and buy a new one!! A bible is only words on a page, just like any other book. You can reproduce them again and again and again. Burning one shouldn't be an issue as long as your motive isn't to burn God Himself.

Not to mention, God wouldn't want you to be killed by His own words, so of course he would want you to burn the bible.

DownUnder · 18th Mar 2008, 05:54 AM

No way - cause obviously it's a sign if he left you stranded there with it in the first place isn't it? I don't know (i must say i don't even believe in god really - though it's complicated)

davo-man · 18th Mar 2008, 06:31 AM

Nope, he wouldn't care, since it's not even his words...it other people's interpretations of his words

Now a more interesting moral dilemma would be if there were two books...the Bible and Harry Potter (from book 1-7)...Which would you burn first?

Beebo · 18th Mar 2008, 11:02 AM

K so first of all, the bible is simply a book with the story of god in it. It is not god, or even a representation of god.

sexyalex · 18th Mar 2008, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamfinder

No, i think as long as you read the page that you are gonna burn its all good.

17th Mar 2008, 12:27 PM	#2
interstella Don't call me GaGa... Full Member Gender: Genderqueer Orientation: Queer Out Status: Everyone Location: London, UK Age: 18 Posts: 700 Join Date: Feb 2008	Re: A Random Question I don't think He would be angry because He would want me to survive. __________________ Lesbian? Gay? Bisexual? Transgender? Queer? Whatever.

17th Mar 2008, 12:28 PM	#3
dreamfinder Member Regular Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Even Santa's elfs know Location: Toledo,OH Age: 26 Posts: 75 Join Date: May 2007	Re: A Random Question No, i think as long as you read the page that you are gonna burn its all good.

17th Mar 2008, 12:38 PM	#4
sngl Trance Fan #1 Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Almost everyone Location: Romania Age: 25 Posts: 784 Join Date: Sep 2007	Re: A Random Question Well I don't exactly believe in God, but I don't think he would be angry at me for burning a bible in order to stay alive!! In fact, I think there's a christian teaching which says that you should be able to let go of everything when you have to, meaning that it's no good having objects or things whithout which you think you can't live. So even if I were really religious and I believed in God, it would be perfectly OK to burn a bible to stay alive. __________________

17th Mar 2008, 12:56 PM	#5
Tim Psycho Glitter Btch Full Member Gender:* Guy, Unless Life Was a Horrible April Fools Joke. Orientation: Gay/Asexual/Confusing to Explain Out Status: Armed and Fabulous! XD Location: California Age: 23 Posts: 7,381 Join Date: Mar 2008	Re: A Random Question No. He didn't create the bible you're reading. Man did. For all we know, man added stuff to it that god did not want. That is how I feel. In this case, God knows what's right and wrong. Some text won't matter, he'd much rather you survive. If it's your time, it's your time. If it's not, then you were meant to burn it. __________________ Rawr! :3 ~The Stalker User Known As Tim~ Rawr! :3 EC's Sailor Star Healer, Oxymoron and All. Star Sensitive Inferno! Sailor Starlight, Stage On! [Vic] 7:49 pm: I keep my pants off in public.

17th Mar 2008, 12:59 PM	#6
Owen Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult EC Admin Gender: Agendered dude Orientation: Panromantic androsexual Out Status: Everyone and their mother Location: Massachusetts, USA Age: 21 Posts: 2,873 Join Date: Jul 2007	Re: A Random Question I don't think he would care. He'd probably pity you if you hesitated to do it. __________________ "Stand firm for what you believe in, until and unless logic and experience prove you wrong. Remember, when the emperor looks naked, the emperor is naked. The truth and a lie are not sort of the same thing. And there is no aspect, no facet, no moment of life that can't be improved with pizza." -Daria Morgendorffer

17th Mar 2008, 02:08 PM	#7
Psychedelic Bookmarks Helena Full Member Gender: Female Orientation: Bisexual Out Status: Close family and quite a few friends Location: UK Age: 18 Posts: 2,195 Join Date: Oct 2007	Re: A Random Question No, God would want you to do it. __________________ "I refuse to recognize the terms hetero-, bi-, and homo-sexual. Everybody has exactly the same sexual needs. People are just sexual, the prefix is immaterial." (Morissey)

17th Mar 2008, 02:15 PM	#8
John666 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: A Random Question i think he wouldn't care as ur life is already planned out of u(according to the bible) what u do is meant to happen(im a christian) EDIT: since i think im gay, it means im not a christian cause the bible says dont have a sexual relation with any other man....

17th Mar 2008, 02:20 PM	#9
EthanS Guest Posts: n/a	Re: A Random Question Does the bible have an context page?? or the prouction pages? you could always use them

17th Mar 2008, 04:58 PM	#10
Steam Giant EC Addict Full Member Gender: Transgender - MtF Orientation: Interested in men Out Status: As bi: out to everyone; As trans: 2 Location: Northeastern Pennsylvania, USA Age: 29 Posts: 2,044 Join Date: Apr 2007	Re: A Random Question When it comes down to it, you're only burning bleached, pressed wood pulp planes with styled ink on them. I think as long as you don't have malice in your heart during the burning (and God would know), you'll be fine ^^ Of course, I'm kind of an agnothiest :P __________________ Started Estrogen and Spironolactone on May 2, 2011

17th Mar 2008, 05:00 PM	#11
Quitex Guest Posts: n/a	Re: A Random Question God's word ain't a piece of paper, God's word is in your heart. I would burn it for my own survival. At the end there are millions and millions and milions of bibles.

17th Mar 2008, 05:03 PM	#12
Zak Formerly Ticky02neo Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: ...Tis a work in progress... Location: Rhode Island Age: 17 Posts: 1,628 Join Date: Nov 2007	Re: A Random Question I'd burn the pages about gays! lol, but yah, i am christian, and I would do anything to survive....well not....yah, anything! __________________ I'd like to give a shoutout to all the people that have ended their EC career. Like me, but I came back... after a while.

17th Mar 2008, 05:43 PM	#13
NathanHaleFan de omnibus dubitandum Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: New Jersey Age: 20 Posts: 166 Join Date: Feb 2008	Re: A Random Question Well, Im an atheist, but if I did believe in a god, it would be one that didn't interfere in piddly human stuff. Just think: if a god is powerful enough to create the entire universe, then I think what one member of a billion species on one of a billion planets does is aboslutely insignifigant to such a god. My $ .02 __________________ We have common sense occasionally; occasionally you see it and you go, "LOOK! There is is." And then it's gone. --Lewis Black

17th Mar 2008, 06:28 PM	#14
Emile Guest Posts: n/a	Re: A Random Question I would burn the Bible. And I would not care much because I'm an atheist, lol.

18th Mar 2008, 12:55 AM	#15
justjoshoh EC Addict Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Some people Location: Dayton, OH Age: 32 Posts: 426 Join Date: Mar 2005	Re: A Random Question Well since we are talking the Bible, I assume it would be New Testament G-d. NTG is a lot more forgiving that Old Testament G-d. As a matter of fact, I hear all you have to do is confess all of your sins before you die and accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior and NTG lets you off the proverbial hook, as if taking a mulligan in golf. Burn the Bible, of course, it is only going to last so long... then you'll have to move on to your other reads like that Harry Potter series or the latest GQ.

18th Mar 2008, 03:07 AM	#16
heatqueen Official #1 fan of Celine Dion Full Member Gender: Female Orientation: Pansexual/Homoromantic bisexual Out Status: Generally whoever asks Location: I travel a lot Age: 20 Posts: 5,707 Join Date: Jan 2008	Re: A Random Question Bibles must be sold all over the world. So once you get off that island, you can go and buy a new one!! A bible is only words on a page, just like any other book. You can reproduce them again and again and again. Burning one shouldn't be an issue as long as your motive isn't to burn God Himself. Not to mention, God wouldn't want you to be killed by His own words, so of course he would want you to burn the bible. __________________ Don't drink and drive. You might hit a bump and spill your drink. Co-founder of the 'Sailor Moon Made Me Gay' club...and the lesbians.

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18th Mar 2008, 05:54 AM	#17
DownUnder Member Regular Member Gender: Female Orientation: Lesbian Out Status: A few people Location: Queensland, Australia Age: 23 Posts: 19 Join Date: Mar 2008	Re: A Random Question No way - cause obviously it's a sign if he left you stranded there with it in the first place isn't it? I don't know (i must say i don't even believe in god really - though it's complicated) __________________ Dance like no one is watching Sing like no one is listening Love like you've never been hurt Live like it's heaven on earth.

18th Mar 2008, 06:31 AM	#18
davo-man Aspiring RENThead Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Completely Out (YAY) Location: Australia Age: 22 Posts: 3,709 Join Date: Nov 2006	Re: A Random Question Nope, he wouldn't care, since it's not even his words...it other people's interpretations of his words Now a more interesting moral dilemma would be if there were two books...the Bible and Harry Potter (from book 1-7)...Which would you burn first? __________________ The Joker Rules all.... TwoFace comes a close second! My Friends are the best people in the world Ross: Wow, you guys sure have a lot of books about being a lesbian. Susan: Well, you know, you have to take a course. Otherwise they don't let you do it.

18th Mar 2008, 11:02 AM	#19
Beebo the cat what has facial hair. Full Member Gender: MAN Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Toronto Age: 23 Posts: 893 Join Date: Feb 2008	Re: A Random Question K so first of all, the bible is simply a book with the story of god in it. It is not god, or even a representation of god. __________________ New Song up. a rough version of "The Ghost of Adam".(I will be adding more.)