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| EC Addict Full Member ![]() Gender: Boy Orientation: Gay Out Status: Everyone or Anyone who ask/wonders Location: Alaska Age: 14 Posts: 548 Join Date: Jul 2012 | Me and former friend has been feuding about if you.are born LGBT or wanting to choose. Are you born with it or do you choose?
__________________ Just be who you are and don't let anyone change you. |
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| Gay Political Enthusiast Full Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Think Richard Simmons duetting with Elton John Out Status: Some people Location: Hint: Bears break into my garage Posts: 134 Join Date: Jan 2013 | Born with it, and I can't imagine it any other way!
__________________ "America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." -Abraham Lincoln |
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| EC Addict Full Member ![]() Gender: ⚧ - Male Orientation: Possibly asexual, but gay for sure. Out Status: Family and 3 friends Location: Colorado Age: 21 Posts: 1,105 Join Date: Dec 2012 | Well I know for a fact I didn't choose to be Trans* nor did I choose to like guys. It all happened naturally for me. So I say you're born with it.
__________________ Riddle me this: Feed me and I live, yet give me a drink and I die. What am I? |
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| EC Addict Regular Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Gay (thought I was bi for a while) Out Status: Out as bi still to some people Location: NYC Age: 17 Posts: 416 Join Date: Aug 2012 | I was born bisexual. How do you CHOOSE to like anything? Ask your friend when s/he chose to be straight!
__________________ I'm David. I knew I had same-sex attractions since I was 15. I was conflicted because I was raised Catholic But accepted myself when soon after I turned 16. |
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| Otters are adorable Full Member ![]() Gender: Questioning, but knows probable answer Orientation: I like men Out Status: My circle of friends and my cat Location: Louisiana Age: 17 Posts: 1,524 Join Date: Feb 2013 | You're born LGBTQ. You cannot just wake up and say, "I'm gay, today." That just doesn't happen.
__________________ "I am full of meaningful flamboyance!" ~ J. W. Harvey. |
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| EC Addict Full Member ![]() Gender: Boy Orientation: Gay Out Status: Everyone or Anyone who ask/wonders Location: Alaska Age: 14 Posts: 548 Join Date: Jul 2012 | My female "wanting-to-be-bi" said its a choice when I keep telling her its not a choicE! She is so ignorant.
__________________ Just be who you are and don't let anyone change you. |
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| Let the journey of life continue! EC Moderator ![]() Gender: Let's say Pangender! Orientation: Let's say gay!! (Homoromantic Demisexual) Out Status: Out as pan to most, out as gay completely Location: Central and Northern Ohio Age: 20 Posts: 7,083 Join Date: Jun 2011 Tournaments Won: 9 | I know that I was born being both pangender and gay. Looking back, I can see many times where I had attractions to women or I had gender dysphoria. I honestly don't know how I didn't figure myself out before I graduated high school.
__________________ The tide of history only advances when people make themselves fully visible. -Anderson Cooper |
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| ლᶘ ᵒᴥᵒᶅ Regular Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Not in Location: New Zealand Age: 21 Posts: 2,177 Join Date: Dec 2010 | As everyone has said you don't choose your sexuality, but you do choose whether you're going to accept it or not, which can give other people the impression that you chose to become gay if you suddenly stop hiding yourself. |
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| EC Extreme Addict Regular Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: A Few People, But Not Family Location: United Kingdom Posts: 3,451 Join Date: Feb 2013 | I was born Gay & I will die Gay, I am afraid I was just made that way (it's Innate) ![]()
__________________ When I was in the military they gave me a medal for killing two men and a discharge for loving one. ~Epitaph of Leonard P. Matlovich, 1988 (Thanks, Marlene) |
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| EC Addict Full Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: ...and a few more... Location: Montreal Age: 53 Posts: 1,333 Join Date: Feb 2013 | I was born gay, but I didn't have a word for it until much, much later...
__________________ “If you press me to say why I loved him, I can say no more than because he was he, and I was I. Michel de Montaigne |
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| EC Addict Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Not out at all Location: New Jersey Age: 19 Posts: 367 Join Date: Jun 2012 | Yup, to reiterate other posters, no logical person chooses to be gay or bisexual. I do not think that anyone would want to choose a path that involves stigmas and discrimination by virtue of your attraction - that's playing life on hard mode. Moreover, I doubt you can control who you are attracted to, but you CAN choose to live a lie by being with someone of the opposite gender to adhere to societal norms. Personally, I would rather live my life the way that it was meant to be by accepting the former. Sidenote: There's some evidence that claims fraternal birth order affects your sexuality. Some studies state that the more brothers you have born before you, the more likely you'll be gay. And it may have to do with changes in the mother's immune system, affecting the gestation of subsequent male children. I think this applies to me, as I have 3 older brothers and one who was a stillborn. Yet I know that the findings don't apply to every LGBT person. So I don't feel like having to seek justification for my attraction - I am who I am. That's my soapbox. |
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| Empty Closets Advisor EC Advisor Gender: Female/Femme Orientation: Lesbian Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Oregon Age: 33 Posts: 3,295 Join Date: Feb 2011 | Why does she want to be bisexual?
__________________ ~It takes courage to allow ourselves to be seen and known, but it is only when we do so that our interactions with people have meaning.~ Ianthe ~ pronounced eye-AN-thee. It's Greek. |
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| Well Known Full Member ![]() Gender: Female Orientation: Questioning Out Status: Not out at all Location: New Hampshire Age: 20 Posts: 119 Join Date: Mar 2013 | Quote:
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| EC Addict Full Member ![]() Gender: Boy Orientation: Gay Out Status: Everyone or Anyone who ask/wonders Location: Alaska Age: 14 Posts: 548 Join Date: Jul 2012 | I don't know. She 'chose' to be bi. And she thinks I chose to be gay!
__________________ Just be who you are and don't let anyone change you. |
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| EC Addict Full Member Gender: Female Orientation: Gay Out Status: To one close gay friend & a couple acquaintances Location: California Age: 20 Posts: 520 Join Date: Mar 2012 | Born with it, definitely. No doubt about it. This can't possibly be a choice, as my feelings have inherently been there all my life. |
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| Knug. Regular Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Still very much alone Location: Sweden Age: 18 Posts: 173 Join Date: Feb 2013 | Like someone would choose to feel miserable and depressed. Like someone would choose to be a minority. Like someone would choose to be hated by half the world. No I didn't choose it.
__________________ ![]() Sucking at something is the first step to becoming sorta good at something. |
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| EC Addict Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Not out at all Location: New Jersey Age: 19 Posts: 367 Join Date: Jun 2012 | Quote:
So just to reiterate, I don't feel the need to justify attraction - it's just a part of you, me, and anyone else out there. | |
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| Empty Closets Advisor EC Advisor Gender: Female/Femme Orientation: Lesbian Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Oregon Age: 33 Posts: 3,295 Join Date: Feb 2011 | If she can be attracted to both males and females, she was bisexual to begin with. Sometimes bisexuals are confused because they have a hard time believing that everyone doesn't have the same experience they do. They don't understand that gay people really are not attracted at all to the opposite sex, and straight people really are not attracted at all to the same sex. They think that everyone has the same feelings they do. But they are wrong. (Other sexual orientations make similar mistakes, but they aren't really relevant here.)
__________________ ~It takes courage to allow ourselves to be seen and known, but it is only when we do so that our interactions with people have meaning.~ Ianthe ~ pronounced eye-AN-thee. It's Greek. |
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| Apprentice Programmer Full Member ![]() Gender: Genderfluid (demigirl /androgyne) Orientation: Queer & Fluid Out Status: Anyone who asks (except grandparents) Location: Inside my own head Age: 20 Posts: 854 Join Date: Feb 2012 | Well, it's not a choice, but I also don't think we are necessarily born LBGTQ either. Our orientation and gender most likely result from an interaction of inborn traits with our environment, including culture and life experiences. Natalie Reed recently wrote a piece about this issue from a trans* perspective that expresses a similar idea and that I highly recommend anyone read. I, for one, do not experience either my orientation or gender as being innate, though admittedly this could be a result of depression-induced dissociation.
__________________ "I believe our future depends powerfully on how well we understand this Cosmos in which we float like a mote of dust in the morning sky." -- Carl Sagan |
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| Knug. Regular Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Still very much alone Location: Sweden Age: 18 Posts: 173 Join Date: Feb 2013 | Quote:
Anyways I have two older brothers and I am gay, so yea. I am pretty sure having older brothers can affect your sexuality.
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