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Revising LGBTQ

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by Munyal, Mar 21, 2013.

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  1. Munyal

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    Why isn't it LGBTAPQ instead of LGBTQ? The A stands for Agender/Asexual and the P stands for Pangender/Pansexual. Besides being longer, what are the problems of the (proposed by me) LGBTAPQ label?
     
    #1 Munyal, Mar 21, 2013
  2. The Escapist

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    Nothing that the original doesn't have as far as I can see.
    I don't have big opinions on the matter myself, so go for it if you want. I generally just add a plus sign since somebody is always going to be left out. Sometimes I don't, and just go with the usual I guess.

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    Well, actually, it doesn't "roll off the tongue" as easily as LGBTQ for me. But whatever.

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    And I guess it isn't as "catchy" either. But again, whatever.
     
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  3. Munyal

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    This is true.
     
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    Personally, I don't think we can ever cram in all the acronyms we'd need to include everybody. Can't we just take it as a given that all genders and sexualities are included?
     
    #4 Ettina, Mar 21, 2013
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    Yes, maybe it should be a given, but I have to admit I feel unsure if it is only "LGBT." Especially since we in the community don't always accept each other.
     
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    Ironically, I've gotten more acceptance from LGBT people in general than from asexual-specific groups. Me being a nonlibidoist asexual who can't seem to get the concept of asexual romance (how is it any different from having a best friend?) has gotten me some bad reactions from other asexuals. Apparently just being myself means putting down less stereotypical asexuals. And being honest about not understanding something means I'm telling people how they should feel.
     
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    That sucks. Even from communities like AVEN? They seem to be quite accepting and loving of all different types of asexuals.
     
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    AVEN especially.
     
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    Oh my god. I've went through their site and they seemed especially accepting of nonlibidoist asexual aromantics. Seriously? Wow.
     
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    See.....you're still leaving out intersex individuals. -_-
     
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    I tried saying LGBTAPQ three times fast. It doesn't work. Whenever I am writing something about LGBT community, I put LGBT+, which stands for EVERYONE who is apart of the community. It is easier to write / say.
     
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    There are various incarnations, one which actually took hold in some circles was LGBTQQIQ. Quite frankly, it's a little ridiculous to try and include every subcategory. I know that anyone who happens to be in some category that isn't directly named might feel left out, but at a certain point... it really doesn't (or shouldn't) matter. The solution some organizations have come up with is to simply call themselves the lambda alliance or the queer alliance or some such that's more inclusive.

    If we don't draw the line somewhere, it will end up being LGBTQNENBIDHSMGBDIEHTKD at some point. :wink:
     
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    How about LGBTAPQEE?
    Lesbian, gay, bisexual/bigender, trans* umbrella, asexual/agender, pansexual/pangender, queer etc, and everyone else
     
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    Way too many letters. XD
     
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    I simply like queer. The alphabet soup idea needs to be put to rest.
     
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    Heh heh, cute. :slight_smile:
     
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    OMG, please, can't we just say queer?

    I'm sorry, but I don't think I need a reason other than it being longer. It's already too long.

    I once saw a website where the abbreviation was literally ten letters long. And it was not a joke. They were totally serious. That is WAY out of hand.

    If we try to name out every possible variation THERE WILL ALWAYS BE MORE. Forever. No matter what.

    Also, in my experience, asexuals and intersex people are both pretty divided as to whether they think it is appropriate that they be included. In fact, some get very offended if they are associated with our community.
     
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    I'm personally a fan of GSM (gender and sexual minorities).
     
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    I think we should just say queer as well.
    Acronyms longer than about 4 letters don't work very well unless they can be pronounced as a word, e.g. laser.
     
    #19 Ridiculous, Mar 21, 2013
  20. Oddish

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    I just say LGBT+/LGBTQ+, or queer.

    "+" as in everyone else under the wide gender and sexuality umbrella.
     
    #20 Oddish, Mar 21, 2013
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