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Sam · 3rd Apr 2008, 05:59 PM

I was thinking about Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. about all the great things he did to try and get equal rights for African americans. He was a man who fought with all he had to accomplish the civil rights that African americans deserved. Through all of it, people were beaten and arrested but him and his followers never gave up the fight. All the marches and rallies all of it and they never gave up, they kept fighting for the rights they knew they deserved. Wanting no more 2nd class citizenship but equality. It was a very terrible time and no human being should be treated so badly. All of it payed off though because evenually THEY WON! I don't think anybody can compare with Dr MLK Jr. but.....

Who is going to be our Dr. MLK Jr.? in other words who is going to be that person who stands out and is willing to help us fight for the right to be considered equal. Who, along with his/her followers is going to be willing to march continuously, be arrested, be beaten and not stop until WE WIN? I know people are fighting now and I support them but its going to take a lot more effort, more than we are doing now, more than we can possibly imagine.

After all when African americans were fighting there were a lot of people fighting against them like people are fighting against us today.

I want others opinions on this and feel free to disagree, just tell the reason you disagree and what you think it will take. I like discussion.

Also do you think the person who will fight for us is alive today? If so who do you think it is?

justjoshoh · 3rd Apr 2008, 11:09 PM

I agree, there were lots of tribulations that Dr. King and those that participated in the civil rights movement endured. There were people that stood by them through those times of deep despair though. We need to invigorate the masses and bring the idea of "injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere" back to the forefront.

I think anyone of us can make come forth and make the movement work. We all have the potential to stand up and make that change. We must realize it within ourselves and more importantly be willing to act on it.

beckyg · 3rd Apr 2008, 11:26 PM

You are right. The gay movement has no real icon that we are going to look back in the history books and see. I think several people have made important contributions but nobody really is in the forefront. Do we need an icon? I'm not sure.

**Jim1454** · 4th Apr 2008, 06:45 AM

I'm not sure we need one... at least not in the same way. Blacks were fighting for much more fundamental rights and freedoms than we would be. In fact, gays aren't any more disadvantaged than blacks are in some locations in the US I would think... despite the work of MLK Jr.

I'm not a US history buff, nor an expert on current social conditions for gays or blacks in the US... perhaps I'm misinformed...

justbeingme · 4th Apr 2008, 05:08 PM

i dont think we need an icon. people know we're here, and soon they will learn that if you piss off all the homosexuals, noone will do your hair

lol jkjk but i really dont think we need any kind off "gay spokesperson", just some smart straight people.

SamAlex728 · 4th Apr 2008, 10:04 PM

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3rd Apr 2008, 05:59 PM	#1
Sam "define normal" Full Member Gender: Female Orientation: Lesbian Out Status: out to most, ask and I'll tell Location: Oklahoma Age: 25 Posts: 1,206 Join Date: Aug 2006	I was thinking about this and I want other's opinions I was thinking about Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. about all the great things he did to try and get equal rights for African americans. He was a man who fought with all he had to accomplish the civil rights that African americans deserved. Through all of it, people were beaten and arrested but him and his followers never gave up the fight. All the marches and rallies all of it and they never gave up, they kept fighting for the rights they knew they deserved. Wanting no more 2nd class citizenship but equality. It was a very terrible time and no human being should be treated so badly. All of it payed off though because evenually THEY WON! I don't think anybody can compare with Dr MLK Jr. but..... Who is going to be our Dr. MLK Jr.? in other words who is going to be that person who stands out and is willing to help us fight for the right to be considered equal. Who, along with his/her followers is going to be willing to march continuously, be arrested, be beaten and not stop until WE WIN? I know people are fighting now and I support them but its going to take a lot more effort, more than we are doing now, more than we can possibly imagine. After all when African americans were fighting there were a lot of people fighting against them like people are fighting against us today. I want others opinions on this and feel free to disagree, just tell the reason you disagree and what you think it will take. I like discussion. Also do you think the person who will fight for us is alive today? If so who do you think it is? __________________ Love knows no gender, it has no boundaries, it is blind yet everyday I wake up to a world of hate and little acceptance, it's sad that I'm hated not for who I am but for who I love~ me (Sam)

3rd Apr 2008, 11:09 PM	#2
justjoshoh EC Addict Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Some people Location: Dayton, OH Age: 32 Posts: 426 Join Date: Mar 2005	Re: I was thinking about this and I want other's opinions I agree, there were lots of tribulations that Dr. King and those that participated in the civil rights movement endured. There were people that stood by them through those times of deep despair though. We need to invigorate the masses and bring the idea of "injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere" back to the forefront. I think anyone of us can make come forth and make the movement work. We all have the potential to stand up and make that change. We must realize it within ourselves and more importantly be willing to act on it.

3rd Apr 2008, 11:26 PM	#3
beckyg PFLAG Mom Community Liaison Gender: Female Orientation: Straight Out Status: Out to everyone/Yes, parents come out too! Location: Middle of Oregon Age: 50 Posts: 7,572 Join Date: Mar 2007	Re: I was thinking about this and I want other's opinions You are right. The gay movement has no real icon that we are going to look back in the history books and see. I think several people have made important contributions but nobody really is in the forefront. Do we need an icon? I'm not sure. __________________ "When we're free to love anyone we choose, When this worlds big enough for all different views, When we're all free to worship from our own kind of pew, Then we shall be free" ~ Garth Brooks

4th Apr 2008, 06:45 AM	#4
Jim1454 EC 'Dad' EC Advisor Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Toronto Age: 41 Posts: 7,449 Join Date: Mar 2007	Re: I was thinking about this and I want other's opinions I'm not sure we need one... at least not in the same way. Blacks were fighting for much more fundamental rights and freedoms than we would be. In fact, gays aren't any more disadvantaged than blacks are in some locations in the US I would think... despite the work of MLK Jr. I'm not a US history buff, nor an expert on current social conditions for gays or blacks in the US... perhaps I'm misinformed... __________________ Jim "It is never too late to be what you might have been."

4th Apr 2008, 05:08 PM	#5
justbeingme Member Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Nearish Wichita, Kansas Age: 19 Posts: 66 Join Date: Mar 2008	Re: I was thinking about this and I want other's opinions i dont think we need an icon. people know we're here, and soon they will learn that if you piss off all the homosexuals, noone will do your hair lol jkjk but i really dont think we need any kind off "gay spokesperson", just some smart straight people.

4th Apr 2008, 10:04 PM	#6
SamAlex728 EC Addict Full Member Gender: I'm a real boy! Orientation: Expert Cockgazer Out Status: Open Flame Location: Hippieville, Oregon Age: 16 Posts: 2,842 Join Date: Feb 2008	Re: I was thinking about this and I want other's opinions anne hathaway http://www.youtube.com/v/jZuIdQVEVY0&hl __________________ "Boys are dumb. Men are pigs. Females are fucking crazy. Makes life difficult." -- Me