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  1. hiddenxrainbows

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    I'm not asking for permission to out someone else, so don't worry guys.

    I'm just curious as to what everyone thinks. Is it okay to out someone, under certain circumstances, such as a guy cheating on his wife with another guy? Or is it just plain wrong to do that to someone else, no matter the situation?
     
    #1 hiddenxrainbows, Apr 22, 2013
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    Completely unacceptable, IMO.
     
    #2 lull23, Apr 22, 2013
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    Never ever ever ever!

    ^ okay, that was supposed to be in all caps, to emphasize my outrage at the thought. Just imagine it...
     
    #3 LailaForbidden, Apr 22, 2013
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    It's never acceptable in my opinion.
     
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    Never. Too many people have committed suicide because of someone publicising their sexual orientation or gender identity. The person needs to give explicit permission before anyone gives away their secrets.
     
    #5 Aussie792, Apr 22, 2013
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    No matter how much you may want to, somebody else's out status is none of your business. If a guy is cheating on somebody with another guy, you'd have better luck talking to him and convincing him to stop if you feel you absolutely have to intervene.
     
    #6 Argentwing, Apr 22, 2013
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    Outing someone is correct and a moral obligation when that person is publicly homophobia or transphobic but lives a double life by enjoying queer sexuality. All is justified against a traitor.
     
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    I also might be biased because I sort of had my orientation outed to my school last year by a person I considered my friend. Thankfully nothing bad happened and him and I are still friends. It was still a d**k move, though
     
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    No, but people still did it to me...

    >_>
     
    #9 Luke Matt, Apr 22, 2013
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    I honestly can't think if a situation where this would ever be acceptable. Ever.
     
    #10 LEZmis4, Apr 22, 2013
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    Completely unacceptable, no matter what that person is like and how much evil they have done it is COMPLETELY monstrous to even consider it and makes the person doing it just as evil imo.
     
    #11 SleeplessS, Apr 22, 2013
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    In a nutshell "NEVER".

    I have seen it done to someone & it pissed me off, That the Guy that did it was openly Gay & thought that everyone who was Gay should be out of the Closet, also British News Papers, particularly the Sun Newspaper, enjoy Outing Celebrities!
     
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    No no no no no no never ever ever ever ever ever out anyone ever it is never ever ever ever justified it just makes you a shitty person
     
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    You pose an interesting moral dilemma with the example about the guy cheating on his wife with another guy, and I don't think the answer is nearly as black-and-white as people make it out to be.

    A lot depends on your relationship with the guy, with his wife, your own sense of boundaries and balancing the different relationships.

    IF I were going to share the information with the wife, I think, depending on circumstances, and assuming the guy didn't tell me this in confidence after first asking me if I could keep a secret... I'd say something to the guy, to the effect that I felt obligated to disclose to the wife what was going on, but wanted to give him the option to disclose it himself first.

    But there are so many variables I don't think one can make a clear case in either direction without knowing the specifics, and even then... it's going to depend on the individual.

    I can also agree that outing someone who is a bigot actively involved in disempowering LGBT people is a different circumstance and under certain conditions is probably OK.

    But in general, I do agree that one's sexual orientation is private unless/until one chooses to disclose it to others.
     
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    Only if the person has specifically asked you to.
    With the above situation I'd sooner threaten the man with his secret, than out him directly to his wife.
     
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    no dont out his sexuality...

    but the cheating needs to be addressed thats stupid how we protect his sexuality and just let him cheat on his wife... im sure there's a way around it...

    maybe tell the wife that you think the husband is cheating on her (you dont need to say with a guy) im sure EC advisors would help on this one...

    ---------- Post added 23rd Apr 2013 at 12:07 AM ----------
    see i knew an EC advisor would come to the rescue with some logic into addressing this...
     
    #16 Winfield, Apr 23, 2013
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    It is completely wrong and unacceptable. Two of the gay guys at my school have been trying to so hard to out me and it really makes me angry. It's my right and my decision to decide when I want to come out and whom to come out to, and they are trying to take away that right from me.
     
    #17 TSN2012, Apr 23, 2013
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    Yeah, except for in the situations people have brought up above it's not okay. In the cheating case though, I don't think "Sam is cheating on you with Tom" is the same as something like "Sam is gay and he's cheating on you."

    Also, I'm curious if other people do this too: me and my fiance share everything with each other, so even though I know I shouldn't out people, when I'm talking with him I just tell him anything I feel like because it's just sharing information within our individual unit.
     
    #18 YellowStars, Apr 23, 2013
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    I totally might, today. Just to say 'Screw all you people'
     
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    I'd never out a normal person, cheater or not. However, if there is a prominent closeted gay homophobe, I certainly might.
     
    #20 Hexagon, Apr 23, 2013
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