Gay a choice?

nope to both

 

No, I don't think it is a choice. The Bible talks about a God of love. It preaches acceptance and not to judge. I don't know if there is a god, but if there is one, I believe that he would love us either way.

 

I don't think being gay is a choice, no, but what is more important is recognising that it wouldn't matter if it were a choice, because its not a bad thing.

Let me just ask you one question: does being gay hurt anyone? does it restrict the rights or freedoms of anyone else?

The answer to that, as far as I know, is no. So if god turns out to be real, and turns out to be benevolent and just, won't you be judged to have caused no harm?

 

Being gay was definitely a choice to me, but I think I'm an exception. And don't worry about hell - you only live once. Do what you want to do, worry about the consequences later. It's 60 years until you start having to worry about that.

 

If you want tho console yourself religiously, I will recommend reading the Sermon on the Mount (Matthew 5-7). But realistically, think for yourself. The Bible may be spiritually worthwhile, but I'm sure you can think for yourself. Cheer up, being gay won't condemn you to hell. You're not hurting anyone, and I'm sure you're a nice guy. I think all of us gay Christians feel down from time to time over this. Remember that all us at EC are here for you.(*hug*) Don't get yourself down.

 

But you also seem to have implied that you're celibate/asexual?

 

Leviticus also prescribes the death penalty for eating shellfish and pigs. And for wearing two different fabrics at the same time. Its best to ignore Leviticus. Furthermore, its widely believed by those who analysed this that it is a mistranslation, that it relates to the activities of some male priests in a pagan religion that seemed rather threatening to the writers of that book.

 

im sorry i dont want to be rude, but i just have to ask how was it a choice? you choose to get erections and feel an attraction for men?!?! sexualtiy i believe is a pyshical reaaction , its like someone once said if its a choice why did i get an erection when i see naked men.

a choice is when you say should i eat pancakes or french toast , we dont chose how we are going feel about something we never really know how we are gonna feel about something until it happens. Im sorry if this sound rude but its just really confusing to me when a gay person says they chose to be that way , espeacially given all the shit we get from straight people.

 

Alexander, in most Christian churches, the Old Testament is not taken as law. What church do you belong to? I'm not going to preach, but if you belong to a hostile church, it might be time to move to a more accepting one.

 

Alexander, don't let your parents bully you through religion. God does not give a large section of society a form of love and attraction in order to punish them. If you believe in God, you must consider him to have created you as you are. Don't allow your parents or priest to scare you into living a lie. Keep your chin up, and you show them you're just as worthy as any other man.(*hug*) I've gone through a similar phase, presumably earlier than you, where I doubted my faith's compatibility with my nature, but in the end, I kept both. Please don't get yourself down, it'll only show them that they've won. And no, you can't change. That you're struggling proves that. Don't believe anyone ignorant of sexuality, it will only confuse you.

 

No, people have tried to be straight for thousands of years and it hasn't worked. It just leads to depression and suicide.

I think what the core of the problem is is this idea of 'sin'. I think a lot of people would agree with me when I say that the only bad thing someone can do is something that harms or restricts the freedoms of others. I ask again, who does being gay hurt? If your deity wants to torture someone for eternity for doing something - choice or not (and it isn't a choice) - that hurts precisely no one, then I wouldn't consider that deity to be benevolent or worthy of worship. I say this not to insult your god, but to point out that if you believe he is benevolent, then he won't condemn you to hell for being gay.

It is your family who need to change, not you. You aren't the one advocating eternal torture for people who've none nothing to hurt anyone.

 

If you believe god created humans and the earth, then surely he must have created all humans, not just christians? Who else could have made the rest?

 

Alexander, I understand your fear completely. But many churches, many Christians, and many people of varying faiths don't like what they don't understand, and being gay is one of those things. Be gay, be moral, be kind, follow the love and respect for fellow humans, and you are not disobeying Christ; you are following his example by not lying, and living a full and generous life. Don't beat yourself up over your nature; you're worth more than that.