Am I the only Brit here who is scared of UKIP?

I'm not British but they are quite worrying, they're like the BNP's very slighly less xenophobic, homophobic, idiotic little brother.

 

You certainly aren't. Its terrifying.

 

Ok ok, I doubt that the UK is going to V for Vendetta, I am sure that UKIP is going to get the full support of half the population of the UK, due to much wider acceptance of almost everything over the last few years I'm sure that these policies will be very opposed by a large amount of people.

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Sorry I meant : I am sure that UKIP is NOT going to get the full support of half the population

 

I'm an avid reader of the Telegraph and the Guardian (yes, I don't live in the UK but British newspapers are infinitely superior in quality than the crap we have here). According to some columnists the reason the UKIP is surging in popularity right now is because of...

1.) The bad economy, which in the public eye both the labour and the conservatives have failed to fix.
2.) Both parties gave off an aura of wimpiness and the unwillingless to tackle the problems facing the country.
3.) Most importantly (i see this echoed again and again in the comments section of the papers) the major parties have become so "faceless" and distant from the society that people don't want to vote for them anymore.

In contrast, the UKIP despite being right wing extremists have a clear personality, advocates leaving the EU (which i guess a large minority of UK citizens agree? especially since the dust from the sovereign debt disaster hasn't settled yet) and actually attracts attention with all the BS they spew.

However, ultimately I think the UKIP's success would be short-lived. Once the economy improves (which it inevitably will), popular support would likely fall. In addition, it seems (although I may be wrong) their entire party is centered on leaving the EU. Let's assume they do, and UK leaves the EU. What would they do then? Do they have any other purpose? Parties that puts almost all their weight on one issue never lasts long.

However, what I do fear (which might be an irrational one since i'm not particularly knowledgeable about the British political system) is that if the UKIP does come into power and gain a majority in the House of Commons they would enact legislation that would repeal or severely curtail the rights LGBTs now enjoy in UK. Don't know how and whether it would happen though.

 

This is one of the most worrying parts. I've done papers on the rise of far right parties and this is always how it starts. They've only become popular by exploiting people's fears and misgivings. I absolutely agree that they will be short lived, people often become disillusioned and vote differently during a recession. Once it's over, I think and hope, they will fade back into obscurity.

 

Very true. In Greece, the fascist Golden Dawn party has seen a surge in popularity because of the devastating economic situation there. Same with Eastern Europe, where right-wing nationalism is on the rise. I don't know if there's a trend across Europe of this, bit if there is then the situation would be extremely worrying.

 

The only thing that made me smile about ukip were the photos of ukip's leader injured in that plane crash. Call me a bastard or whatever but they are last but one to the BNP of the people I'd like to see in Westminster.

 

When Farage talks about UKIP being 'third party in British politics', he means English. UKIP have no relevance in Scotland yet they will influence UK government policy but Scottish politics looks very different from Westminster politics. UKIP want to abolish the Scots parliament and set up a "committee" for us in London.

 

The problem with the UK at the moment, is the Coalition Government, it is Conservative (similar to Republicans in America & Liberal Democrats (The on the fence Party, somewhere in between Labour & Conservatives, Labour are like the Democrats in America)

The Coalition is dominated by the Conservatives (known as the Nasty Party) it contains a lot of Homophobes, at the moment their policy is Divide & Conquer, they are pitting those in work against those on welfare, for the sole purpose of cutting peoples Welfare & getting the support of the workers by doing it, they use the rhetoric you should be better of in work than on benefits, the only problem is people who are at work & on the minimum wage are also on welfare to top up their wages.

This is a Party that is made up of Millionaire Pubic School Boys & Girls, who don't know the meaning of Struggle, who are punishing the poorer people in society, instead of the rich bankers (their buddies) who actually caused the Recession around the world & people have had enough of them.

People see the Labour Party as being led by a weak Leader & they are looking for an alternative, UKIP are pressing the right buttons & tapping into peoples concerns, people know that there are hardly any jobs for their own children or themselves & that the country is opening it's doors to immigrants, who are going after the same jobs.

Being a Irish Citizen living in the UK, I can see & hear the discontent of the people, the political landscape in the UK is changing, it's time the Government & the main parties woke up & smelt the coffee & stop calling it a protest vote, otherwise a UKIP Government, will become a reality! Rant Over Lol

 

This is exactly the problem. They're seen as weak, privileged, out of touch ponces. UKIP on the other hand seem much more relatable to the man on the street.

 

No, you're not.
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I wonder how their surge will compare to that of the Lib Dems, who are now bottom of the heap again.
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The good thing about it, I guess, is that they've siphoned off a lot of Conservative voters yet don't have enough to get a single seat.

 

I think you can do a postal vote to the UK, it's Irish Citizens abroad who can't vote

 

I'm not British but we also have a very right wing party here and there's a huge possibility they'll get elected next year. I am very scared of them.
They want to leave the EU, want things like Tesco and who knows what else out of the country, they are openly racist, homophobic, extremely religious & patriotic and all of their symbols (uniform, badge, name, etc.) resemble and are meant to remind you of that of past dictatorships. They also hate minorities and say that only the real ethnic people of this country are supposed to live here and they are very intimidating as well. And their politicians say the most stupid things I've ever heard that makes you wonder how they managed to get their qualifications.

But the difference between your situation and mine is that even if you have the UKIP as the leading party from next year, they won't be allowed to do whatever they want because other countries, like the US, won't let them but if our radical right wing party gets elected, no one will care what they do once we leave the EU.:icon_sad:

P.S. This is one of the reasons why I'm not 'coming out' any time soon. They could use it against me one day.

Actually, this is only one of the worries we have about the upcoming election. The other one is that we won't be able to change our current government due to the (slightly unlawful) changes a single ruling party keeps making to our constitution...

 

At least the U.K.'s far right parties are only marginal in strength and status. The UKIP and BNP don't actually run anything.

Compare that to the U.S., where a far-right party (Republican) not unlike the UKIP and BNP wields tremendous power over the federal government and many states.

 

No, I'm not from Greece. I don't want to say where I live in case there are people here from this country. I've already made a lot of references about it but I hope that way it would be harder to tell for someone who's actively looking for it.
(Some of my family are very paranoid, I must have picked it up from them )

 

I am really scared of UKIP. They're like the BNP, but people actually take them seriously. I mean, the BNP are generally seen as a joke from the people around me, but UKIP gain ground under the guise of being "less extreme". Seriously, we don't need such a damaging party to pop around gay marriage voting time. Better start learning to hold my bladder. Wouldn't be surprised if they try anything aginst transpeople.