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When did fighting back become activism

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by Matt21, May 21, 2013.

  1. Matt21

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    For many years i have felt the watering down of langague and the real attempt to change the meaning of words yet not legally just using commonly held views on a words meaning and how even a word exists in society with no meaning so many to even begin,with this we know can atleast come to an idea of society lets this slip by because either it's simpler to just let it go by or it's just to much hassle to change it once the majority feel the word means x not y.

    However i feel that real bash back attutides have all but died off and the world seems so focused on lgbt progress yet forgets the context of said progress at the same time quite sad and so wrong,we are in the first time in histroy where history is remembered properly because of computers,internet,more people who get better news and open minded,our past history for the most part insert air fingers here, it is simply commonly agreed opon lies.

    We now come to the problem how to be give proper context in a context dead society that we killed off ourselves, we seem so happy to protest peacefully,so happy to sit by and be content with the majority getting the last say the hidden insert word you feel relevant for it,homopboia,heterosexism etc etc which you prefer, for this is straight people no matter what i feel get the power to give equality but not all take it away since they gave it, i'm sure you have heard in another country you would be dead,we gave you something shut up etc etc, this is common knowledge to most peolple who hear homopbobia on a daily basis or even once since it can be heard.

    I'm from northern ireland a small place with virtually two lgbt places outside of those two towns and lgbt people for the majority aren't even visible at all, i am out to my family for those who want to ask however i feel coming out isn't even possible in society for safety reasons even if i was in one of the two places with lgbt people,unlike england,scotland and wales where some acceptance/tolerance is there northern ireland sadly tolerates lgbt abuse and 80 percent in the recent study is NEVER REPORTED.

    If your still reading thank you.

    What i'm getting to slowly yes i know is that have we deep down given up and said fine straight people we will wait?

    do we need to return to some type of more militant or anti working with the people who deep down mostly see us as less and i can see the counter agruement of we should work together yes but it's the wrong context yet again missing the point,minorities/sexual minorities seem to never be given a bigger say than the majority which is appaling to me i just find it sick and wrong how we have to vote to begin with for this playing a broken system of poltical crap and jeez our countries polticial history is open admitting terroists on both sides so come on do i turn into some i don't know radical or just sit by and be a hyprocrite deep down.

    ps not bashing any fellow gay people i understand if you truly feel the way you do and want to work with said majority that's fine.
     
  2. BudderMC

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    In what world do you live in where the minority is EVER given a bigger say than the majority? In a democratic society, that's kind of how it works - "majority rules" (well, minus the fact you have political representatives and whatnot).

    If I decide to fight for anything, I'm fighting for equality. Why? Because being LGBT makes me very minimally different from the average person. Hell, the way I am now I could probably pass for any straight Average Joe. I don't want to be treated better than straight people, I'd like to be treated the same. That's precisely why I'm not active, because for the most part I do still have "straight privilege" in the sense that I'm not visibly stereotypically gay. It just doesn't concern me.

    Back to the point though, I'd be fighting for equality. Being gay makes me no better and no worse than anyone else. The majority seems to think that it makes me worse somehow, and that's what I'd set out to correct.

    As for why we don't have a militant movement or anything more "forward" than passively voting for rights, I can't answer for the whole LGBT movement. I don't think violence ever solves anything. I don't think associating "LGBT" with "violent" (which would inevitably happen) is productive to gaining any sort of social ground, no matter how much ground you want to gain. To me, fighting shows an inability or lack of desire to use intelligence and sociability to communicate with other people. It shows a fear when presented with a situation - fight or flight. It doesn't have to be like that. Human beings are social creatures; we should be social more often.

    That's my 2 cents. I'm not well-versed in research or sociology or anything, so that's strictly my opinion.
     
  3. Matt21

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    Umm i think i explained the politics problem our leaders don't care and are ex terrosists read some northern ireland history please they pretend to care but don't northern ireland is so openly homopbobic yet nothing seems to happen, while i agree with not wanting to be more than straight people the context of them getting being the ones who in societies eye and in there minds past this just feels wrong on so many levels.

    I agree you can have any different opinion you want yet this history is a classic example of rights gained by violence not pretty but worked honestly i think the morality agruement coming to this next is a fair but honetly while fair kind of a dick move not fully but a dick move i think unbalanced broken systems need to be fought against to make them change politics in general is a classic example of how they say they will do something get in then don't how many times do you hear i am currently doing this am going to continue after you might vote for me and they are actually doing things before legally elected and continue to do it. the system is broken bottom line and we sit here while aruging morality