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While I'm thinking these deep thoughts...

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  1. AwesomGaytheist

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    Am I right or wrong?

    Despite preaching love and acceptance wherever you're at in life, Christians are some of the most hateful and intolerant people in the country. They hate President Obama in Jesus' name, some going so far to hanging a dummy of him from a cross. The picture is in this article, which is still pretty interesting.

    Hating President Obama (in Jesus's name) — Matthew Paul Turner

    Christians also hate Muslims, though not as much as they hate atheists. This clown Baptist Pastor from Florida declared a few years back "International Burn a Koran Day." He also came up near my area. In Metro Detroit, with the highest population of Middle Eastern/Arab/Muslim people outside the Middle East, he showed up with a slew of his followers to try and incite a riot. Fittingly, he was arrested for breaching the peace.

    I can't understand why these people hate the very people they're supposed to be _witnessing_ to and trying to convert. As a former Christian, the amount of hate, bigotry, and intolerance shown towards me and people like me not just because of my sexual orientation disgusted me, and led me into the path of deep thinking that led to my conclusion that there is no god.
     
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    The problem here is that the majority of Christians are good, or at least morally passable, but the hateful churches are usurping the idea of Christianity to justify their hatred. Painting us all with one brush is not fair, and is just as insulting as right-wing nutcases calling us all (LGBT) sinners and un-natural. Christianity is often used as a shield to justify bigotry, but that is not what Christianity is about.
     
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    There are many Christians. Some, like myself, are very mild. Am I still a Christian? Yes. Do I hate Obama in Jesus's name? I decidedly do not.
     
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    I hope you didn't come to this conclusion because of other peoples hate if not then I assume you have a logical reason to believe this
     
  5. AwesomGaytheist

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    Every Christian I've talked to tells you Obama is a Muslim Kenyan socialist, fascist, communist hell bent on destruction of the United States. They say he's the king of abortions in this country, and that Obama is the anti-christ, and that we're CLEARLY in the last days described in Revelation.
     
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    I agree and also good quote
     
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    Every Christian I've talked to is loving and open-minded. It really depends, and what you say is akin to one suggesting that all gay people are sex-obsessed, which is decidedly not true.
     
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    Then you haven't talked to very many or a very varied bunch. Please do so before making a sweeping judgement of one-third of the world's population. You might be surrounded by fundamentalists or certain evangelicals, but that doesn't mean all Christians are like that.

    I grew up deep in the church here in the UK. Met a lot of Christians. Loved them. Exactly one thought Obama was a Muslim (the rest considered that a ridiculous idea); none considered him the antichrist; few thought we could know the date of the Rapture. Most, perhaps, were pro-life, but nobody called him the king of abortions. People I've met generally like Obama (they may like Romney too, of course).

    Does that mean that no Christians are hateful? No. But seriously, I am critical of the religion but I will defend the religious because Katie and Sarah and Emma and others are some of the best people I know.
     
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    I'd caution against generalising from an overly vocal minority. Many christians are liberal and open-minded. But that isn't to say that I don't share your annoyance at those who do behave that way.
     
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    The only reasons that many Christians appear intolerant is because of the crazy one's like the Westboro Baptist Church always are on the news. I'm a fairly devout Christian, and I don't hate Obama. In fact, most Christians I've met don't hate gay people, although they believe that homosexual acts are sins like lying or stuff like that. I think that in about 10 years most Churches will slowly realize that being gay isn't wrong and will eventually stop preaching against it.
     
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    That's a lot of generalizing in the OP about Christians, perhaps those qualities are true with Christians you have met where you live or have seen on the Internet. Not every Christian is like that and I would say that maost of the radical ones are the ones in the States.

    Maybe it's because where I live but any Christians I have met tend to be open-minded and liberal in their thoughts and ideas. We don't go about converting people or even take the bible as a literal truth, we have better use for our time and in my case that is to learn about the world.

    About tolerance towards other religions and ideas, in my own experience I find them to be very fascinating and actually learn a lot from them. Do I deny what they hold to be the truth? Hell no I do not! Who am I to say who is right?
     
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    I tend to take the 'dangerous animal' approach to people who have a religion.

    I assume that they are more scared of me than I am of them and that they are most dangerous when they feel threatened. So I try to ignore them and hope they will ignore me too ....but, if attacked I will defend myself.