Is anyone else worried about how Right Wing European Politics is becoming?

Yeah it is kinda worrying that people still think like this. We have the same nut jobs like these people in Australia, but no one takes these people and parties seriously.

 

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But yea, it worries me to. I think it's partly due to the fear from the financial crisis.

 

^Very enlightening. I never knew most of that.

Yeah, I am concerned about the rise of fascism once again. But given that they seem to be supported by so many, I'm not sure what we can do about it. Ideas? We could start a queer army and march through europe preserving socialism...

 

In the case of Wilders: he never offers any concrete solutions, repeatedly breaks promises to his eloctorate, yet people keep voting for him. It's mindboggling.

The author of the video did make one mistake though: Friesland doesn't have hearts on it's flag, they're the leaves of a waterplant.

 

It worries me too. In Greece, where Golden Dawn have increased their popularity following the collapse of the previous government, they've taken to beating up gays and immigrants in the suburbs of Athens. It reminds me of the SA in Germany in the 1920s and 30s, when Nazi support was still in the minority, but certainly increasing. I just hope Britain has enough sense to stay moderate and not follow Nigel Farage, but I certainly am worried about France, considering Le Front National and Mme Le Pen do so well

 

If it doesn't get repossessed by a fascist English government, sure. (&&&) Although I have a feeling Mr Farage doesn't like sausages, so we may be safe yet. :eusa_danc

 

Because right wing doesn't automatically mean you're against gays. I'm very right wing when it comes to politics. And the Dutch example you name, Geert Wilders, he isn't against gays at all. In fact, he supports total freedom for everyone. Gay friends of mine have voted for him; it has absolutely nothing to do with it.

(Also, what a lot of people don't know, is that Wilders has a wife of Hungarian descent. People think he's very racist and hates foreigners when really he doesn't)

 

His followers are relatively more homophobic:
PVV-kiezer negatiefst over homo's - Nieuws - VK

He is racist and against foreigners. This is evident from his repeated cries kut-marokanen, Polenmeldpunt etc. etc. Just because he isn't opposed to every race or foreigner doesn't change that he's a racist.

And the PVV isn't consistent in it's defense of LGBT issues:
http://afa.home.xs4all.nl/alert/4_15/watch415.html

 

Not all of them are. People don't vote for him because they're homophobic, since Wilders himself stands for freedom and is not homophobic at all. The reason a higher percentage of his followers are homophobic might be that he has a lot of uneducated followers. That doesn't mean his party agrees with it or that's the reason why they voted for him.

I don't see anything disturbing in that (really bad!) article? Where are they not consistent? I don't get it. They've never said anything homophobic?

We'll just have to agree to disagree on this. Don't wanna take over this thread.

 

Ah ,so that's why he hired an openly homophobic man as his senior advisor!
And why he voted against LGBT education on highschools?
Have you actually read the article?

The lack of criticism from his party with regards to his own followers on homophobia is quite telling though.
As are the other things mentioned in the article.

Why is it a bad article? Simply calling it bad won't change or refute the facts presented therein.

1. Wilder's senior advisor is an open and proud homophobe.
2. The PVV voted against a proposal for LGBT education on high schools when that is one of the groups that has the highest rate of homophobic people in the Netherlands.
3. When a gay Prince Carnaval was refused communion in 2010 it was all over the news and many gay-rights activists turned up to protest. The PVV didn't do anything.

Nope, it's not a matter of opinion. Wilder's statements and actions fit the definition of racist.

 

We have a far right wing party that got into parliament in the last elections and have a conservative (and anti-gay) party in coalition with a christian party who run the country together.

 

I'm not too worried about it in the UK. It's just how politics fluctuates here. We flip flop from one side of the spectrum to the other when every party we elect disappoints us. Also when you consider how much more Right-Wing the US is compared to the UK it makes me thankful for the liberalism we have.

 

i'm seriously considering fleeing to south america

 

^ You state that your location is in "USSR". Does that mean you currently reside in Russia or are you in one of the former Eastern Bloc Countries? (honestly the current stance the Russia government has over LGBT people and immigrants, as well as the rise of Neo-Nazism frightens me. It makes me feel like it's 1920s Germany all over again.)

But that said, yes the resurgence of right wing politics in Europe is quite alarming. But this seems to be what usually happens when the economy is in downturn. Let's just hope that the economy improves soon.

 

i'd rather not disclose that information, plus i move a lot

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and i agree with the rest of what you said

 

I've just seen your very first post. I'm sorry if I've mistyped you or have offended you.

 

Here in Scotland there isn't really any right wing presence in politics to speak of. The SNP and labour dominate (snp being the more left) with idiots like farage being chased out of the country by angry activists

I think here if the independence referendum ends with a yes vote, an openly socialist government of the Chavez ilk is a real possibility. Viva la Revolution!!