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How do you recognise sexual attraction? Quite graphic

Discussion in 'Coming Out Advice' started by nonchalant, Aug 18, 2008.

  1. nonchalant

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    Posted a topic the other day about how i'm very confused about my sexuality

    Anyway, as i'm sure a lot of people in the same situation do, i decided to go on a few gay websites and check my reactions. So looked at quite a few pictures of naked guys and always had the same reaction: my heart starts beating out of control to begin with, which i feel is fear/anxiety, and i get a tingling sensation 'down there' but no growth. The longer time goes on and the more relaxed i get, the more the tingling sensation disappears. I don't get any growth whatsoever, in fact it seems to shrink. To me this is probably the opposite of arousal? The more relaxed i get, the less 'aroused' i feel? How do people generally realise they are sexually attracted to the same sex?
     
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    So did you look at straight porn too? How did you respond to that? Is it the same or different?
     
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    I guess I don't think of porn as a sufficient way of determining your sexual orientation, but that might just be because I really don't care for the stuff at all in any form. In order to start to understand your sexual orientation you need time. You need patience. It seems complicated now and you may think that things will never be clear in your head, but I tell you from not too far down this road that we're all on that you will find some clarity. Worrying about it isn't going to help you, trying to force yourself in one direction or the other isn't going to help you. It is a hard lesson that we all have to learn, but the bottom line is that you can't rush this process and might just hurt yourself trying. I promise, it will not always be like this. You have to relax, and most importantly you have to allow yourself a safe space of thought. Don't put yourself into a box, you don't need one. Let yourself think and daydream. Don't make a decision and then block everything else out. Feel what you are feeling, and, in a little more time than you may want it to take, things will start to become clearer. Keep talking on EC when you need help, love ♥ Best of luck
     
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    Silentsound is right, of course. You do have to give it time and not force yourself into a label right now. You really learn who you are attracted to through interactions with people. There may be qualities in people that are consistent to your liking but when you fall in love, you just flat out know it. You're not getting pornographic images in your head of this person (well sometimes you do!), instead you are looking into their eyes and feeling their soul.
     
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    Porn doesn't necessarily "do it" for everybody. I'm not a huge porn fan myself. So let's phrase it another way. Do you masturbate? When you do, what do you think about? What do you fantasize about? Guys, girls, either, both?

    Lex
     
  6. nonchalant

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    It's an ambiguous one and basically the major cause of my sexuality crisis

    When i was 11 me and a male friend jacked each other off for 6 months or so. I didn't fancy him or desire a relationship with him, i was obsessed with a girl at school and he had a girlfriend so it was your typical childhood experimenting i guess. It ended when he asked could he perform anal on me. I told him no chance and that was the end of our experimenting. We stopped speaking to each other a few weeks later and haven't spoken in 11 years.

    After that i began to masturbate by myself and 99% of my fantasies were over women. However, i had the occasional fantasy about my old friend jacking me off. Then at 14, i started watching gay porn. Why? Well my therapist said it could've been 'homosexual imprinting' i.e. my only sexual experience had been same sex, so i was attracted to this. He also mentioned taboo. All i know is that it was solely the act that excited me, it didn't matter whatsoever what the guys looked like. But this didn't lead to any questioning of my sexuality, mainly because i had no real reason to. 80% of my fantasies were still over women, i watched lesbian porn sometimes although not as often as gay porn, and i was constantly crushing on girls in school and on TV. I definately wasn't 'programmed' to think i liked girls when i didn't. I definately liked them. I wasn't trying to fit in either: between the ages of 14 and 18 i actually had no friends so it's not like i was trying to be like my friends and faking an interest in girls.

    So the basics:
    - age 11, experimenting with same sex friend
    - age 12-13, start masturbating alone, 99% over thoughts of women, the odd thought about my previous experimenting
    - age 14, start watching gay porn
    - ages 15-22, 75% of fantasies over images or thoughts of women, 25% over gay porn

    I've never had an abstract fantasy about another guy. I think this is because i'm attracted to the act rather than the guys themselves. I'm quite choosy when it comes to my female fantasies though: i've never been one to fantasise about tits or pussy, i adore women's legs and my fantasies would always be over a woman in a mini-skirt/hot pants with really tanned legs just lying down on my bed or possibily giving me a blow job. I never really fantasise about having sex with them though. I don't find the idea of fantasising about myself very arousing. Again sorry for the graphics. I've also slept with 6 girls and enjoyed intercourse, although i always disliked giving a girl oral. Since i developed this obsession though, my sex drive has plummeted and i can only keep an erection if the girl is on top of me.
     
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    It's just a thought, but concerning porn, have you thought that maybe you're just turned on by anything sexual? And that this has nothing to do with your sexuality at all? Just that, you know, sex turns you on?

    But more to your question, have you ever sat next to a guy/girl you're crushing on, and been completely overcome with physical desire? So much so that you want to just reach out and kiss/have sex with them right there and then? If so, this is more likely to tell you about your sexuality than any porn, I think. I've been physically turned on by both men and women that I've crushed on, and therefore consider myself bisexual. I'm not really into porn at all so what this would relate to with regards porn, I don't know; it would actually be interesting to know what (if anything) I was turned on by in that circumstance, and if it fitted the identity I've chosen.

    It sounds as though you're definately attracted to girls, and it may be that you're bisexual, even if only a little, such as 5% attracted to guys or whatever. But try not to think about it, and try not to stress about it. Attraction is everything combined - emotional and physical - so don't worry about it too much.

    I think that fantasies don't necessarily tell you everything either: people can fantasise and be turned on by some really sick things but it doesn't actually mean that this is what they want. I'd therefore look at you real-life attractions more than your fantasies or porn habits. That's what I'd do anyway.

    If you feel you may be bisexual, it doesn't have to be 50/50; and if you experience a little same-sex attraction, there is no law telling you that you must identify as bisexual. The decision to identify as such is entirely up to you, and if you are only slightly gay but mostly straight, then there is no need to necessarily label yourself unless you want to.
     
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    I agree with CCDD, Porn and Fantisies aren't what I think someone should base sexual orientation on. I like how she put it. A good way to test is be in a room, with a crush, and see if you are completely overcome with desire, whether its a guy or girl.

    About the only keeping an erection if the girl is on top. You said that it only started happening when you started this "obsession." Could it be that you are just so distracted and worried about your orientation that you just arent in the "Mood" any longer, Or could it be that you like to be dominated? Which could also be hard for alot of guys to come to term with becouse they are molded to think of themselves as Masciline and In-Charge. And I'm not saying its not masculine to be dominated, It doesnt make you any less of a man, on either account, whether you like to let the other take controll, or if your bisexual. Your still a man, and that wont change...Well unless you get surgury, and well, I dont think thats on your agenda at all lol.
     
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  9. nonchalant

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    I've heard the 'anything sexual can turn you on' debate many times. The thing is: i know for a fact that gay porn turns me on more than any other. It's almost like the energy gets me going if that makes any sense? Lesbian porn can be quite arousing but it's a bit.....soppy? Like watching 2 guys go at it vigorously is a lot more stimulating than watching 2 women kiss each other or carress each other's bodies. As for straight porn, i'm just not interested in it. I always grew up respecting women and watching a man perform hardcore sex on a woman just isn't for me. I might be aroused by it, i dunno, i've never watched it that often.

    And yeah i've definately felt the 'urge to kiss/have sex with' feeling in real life, and it's always been with girls. My first relationship when i was 19 was very sexually charged. I mean, the second she came into my room i felt like i was ready to explode. I've never really felt that with any girls since but none of them have been anywhere near as sexy as she was. Even so, with my current girlfriend we started out as just friends but one night she was upset about something and i was hugging her and the next thing i knew, i had this uncontrollable urge to kiss her. Which i did. I've never experienced that with a guy. Typing stuff like this makes me think how crazy it is to think i'm gay, but it's not quite so clear cut.

    The idea of being sexual with a man isn't unappealling, if a bit.....unlikely. I hate performing oral on a girl but the idea of giving a guy a blowjob isn't that bad. I think it would be a lot less disgusting. I dunno, when i was a kid i found vaginas a bit.....gross. And i still kinda do, although i enjoy sexual intercourse with them lol. However, i know that if a guy asked me to suck him off i would refuse point blank. It's like in theory the idea of giving a blow job isn't that bad, but in reality i would never contemplate it. I dunno, it's very confusing
     
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    I've heard that most people's sexuality ranges in a spectrum - some people are really gay and some are really heterosexual, but most are in the middle. Therefore, being turned on by gay sex isn't really anything unusual.

    But I would say that you are really struggling to put some sort of order to your thoughts and feelings. Give yourself time with this - you will figure yourself out!

    Good luck!
     
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    To me all the 'tingling' sensations are ust adrenyline rushing for fear of being caught.

    Thats why when you relax...tingling sensation leaves, because the fear factor has...

    Don't be in a rush to label youself.
    Just go with what you like
     
  12. nonchalant

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    Is tingling noticeable during real arousal aswell though?

    I've heard many theories about 'anxiety arousal' where if you fear getting an erection you will experience a lot of tingling sensations and possibly get slight growth, but how does this differ from actual arousal?

    If you were aroused by something would you just get an erection, end of story? I get an erection around my girlfriend a lot of the time but i don't think i experience this tingling, not 100% sure though. Not meaning to gross anyone out, but any responses about what anyone else feels when they look at pornographic images might be helpful lol
     
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