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I have 72 hours to tell my father

Discussion in 'Coming Out Advice' started by ScentedRegrets, Aug 29, 2008.

  1. ScentedRegrets

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    Hi everyone. For those of you that have read my update of about a week ago, you may know what I am about to say. Two weeks ago, I came out to my mother while my father was upstate. Now, its just the opposite... my mother is away for the weekend, and I am home with my father. I have been having many mixed emotions about telling my father, and then how to tell my father.

    My mother returns Monday afternoon, and I want to tell my father before she returns. She said that when I do tell him, she can be right there as emotional support. But I want to "man up" and tell him myself. My mother said that he would not hate me, and he would not kick me out of the house (no, I am not a dead beat 23 year old, I still live at home but I pay rent and am trying to find a condo closer to my job). She just said that he would not understand it.

    Like, for instance, my two best friends are brothers. One has a girlfriend, lets call him Bob. I asked my mother, once I came out to her, what she would think if I brought home a boyfriend one day, similar to how Bob brings home his girlfriend. She said she'd be fine with it, but my father wouldn't understand it. He is a good person at heart, but he is very strongly opinionated. He doesn't believe in inter racial marriage, and he sometimes mimicks feminine acting guys on TV. And yet, he still loved my one aunt, who was a lesbian until she died of cancer 11 years ago.

    I was talking to "Bob" again the other day, and I mentioned not telling my father at all. And he said that that would be just plain wrong. "What happens if it slips out, or you quickly fall in love with someone... then, oh yeah dad, by the way... everyone around you knows but not you." I believe he is entirely right. I just don't want to make the road ahead any shakier. We haven't always been the closest father and son unit, but have been somewhat closer in the most recent five years or so.

    Sorry for the length of this post. I am 23 years old and I still need a bit of help. This isn't the first time asking for it, but I am really in a bind. I finally gathered the courage to tell my mother, and now I need to do the same with my father. Thanks in advance.
     
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    Hi there! I'm sorry to hear about your aunt.

    Coming out to parents is hard, and there is no easy way around it. No worries. You are never too old to ask for help! From what you have said there are few things that indicate that he might be okay with your sexual identity. It might take a bit of time for him to come around to it given that he has his own opinions and life expereinces. But given that he accepted your aunt, I think it might be okay.

    If you feel ready and the right time has come to come out to him, try it. If you feel that it might be easier to write a letter first rather than talking to him in person you could try that. Give him some time to read it, come back and talk to him afterward. That might make it a bit easier. However, if you think that it might help you to have your mom in the background for support, and given that she has offered it, I would take it. Your mum does not have to be in the same room, but just knowing that you have support behind you could help. You will still show a lot of courage.

    That said, I would 'caution' you though on making it a 'firm deadline.' the reason for why I am saying this is that if it does not happen, for whatever reason, you might end up being disappointed and even more stressed out. If it happens, great. If it doesn't for whatever reason, it just means it is going to happen another day.

    Good Luck! I hope it goes well for you.
     
  3. Swamp56

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    First of all, try and be cautious when you tell your father, as he probably won't understand, nor will he want to. But also remember, that if he doesn't accept it at first, he will eventually :slight_smile: .

    If I were you, I would wait for my mother to arrive home and then tell him so she can be there for support :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes: .
     
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    Your father seems less homophobic in the "angry/religious" sense, and more homophobic in the "ignorant" sense. In other words. he's never really met/known anyone who is gay. And it's easy to casually mock a group of people when you've never met or known anyone in that group. Who's more likely to mock cheerleaders/geeks/jocks in high school - those who don't have a friend in that group, or those that do?

    Judging solely by your post, it sounds like your father will come around. It will probably take him longer, he probably will have more questions (which he may or may not ask you, depending on his comfort level), but he probably will eventually be accepting. So feel free to start the process - either now or when your mother returns. Make it clear that Mom already knows, and that you felt that he deserved to know as well. Let him know you're willing to answer any questions he has, and that he hopes he'll understand. Then, let him mull it over. I think he'll be fine.

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    Thanks all. My father and I are having dinner together tonight. I think that this is going to be my goal... to tell him the truth. I think I can be man enough to tell him without my mother there. I think that it may actually help him to ask me any questions he may have. I think my only real fear is that he will feel less comfortable with my two best friends coming over (they are guys). I don't want him to think anything irrational and think we are doing anything sexually or anything like that. I am not sure where his head is going to be after I tell him.
     
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    Are your two best friends gay? If not, make that clear to your dad. "I don't want you to get the wrong idea. Fred and Bob? Great guys, love 'em to death, but totally straight." :slight_smile:

    Lex
     
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    No, my two best friends are absolutely straight. Good call - I will make this absolutely clear. I really think that it would be best if we had our dinner time to talk about it, without my mother around. I think that my mother would be very comforting, but I think that my father would respect it more that I told him out right rather than "running to mommy." We just need to have a man to man conversation. Do you agree?
     
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    I don't think that having your mother around is "running to mommy." It is just for extra support but you are still the one that talks to him. If you feel that it would be better if you just talk to him without your mom around, and having a 'man to man conversation', go for it. I do agree with Lex though that you should tell him that your mom already knows.

    Hope this helps!
     
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    Just a quick update. I did not tell him last night, as I knew deep down I wouldn't have the courage to do so. I chickened out. Tonight, we are ordering pizza, just the two of us, and I think we are going to watch a movie.

    Do you think this is a good time to tell him? I don't want it to be awkward tonight or anything, and I don't want him to be sad and depressed. I don't think he will be angry, just upset and it will ruin his mood, I think. I want to tell him so badly, but I cannot bring myself to do so! It's soooo frustrating!

    For the record, I have gone running three times today to try to clear my head. My legs have not ached so bad since my baseball days. Ahhhhhhhhhhhh!
     
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    Hi there! I think coming out to him during a time when he is relaxed and in a good mood is best. If you feel that you are ready for him to know try it again. Take a deep breath and try to stay relaxed when you do start telling him about yourself. If you find it too hard to talk to him in person, you could also write a brief letter and once he had a chance to read it, talk to him about it. Also, you could try writing out some of your thoughts beforehand. Sometimes that can help as well. From your posts it sounds like that he should be okay with it.

    That said, not being able to talk about it, could also be a sign that you might not be ready yet. Ask yourself "am I ready for him to know?" If the answer is yes, try looking into some of the suggestions mentioned above. If it is maybe, or a no, maybe wait a bit until you are absolutely sure. Keep in mind that it is perfectly alright not to say anything over the weekend. Also, think about if it might be easier to have your mom around for support. Again, there is nothing wrong with having your mum around.

    Hope this helps! I do wish you all the best of luck!
     
  11. Master Hade

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    i think ur father and my father would get along...
    for dominate males a lot of the time maning up is a way to gain respect..
    I think that it would be easir with ur mom around but, he will have the most respect for u...
     
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    Thanks again, everyone. Tonight has come and gone, and I did not tell him. My mother is due back tomorrow around dinner time, so I think I am going to try to tell him over lunch, or maybe I can catch his right after he finishes reading his paper. Anyway, Modells is having a huge sale on some shirts that I love for work, so I think I am going to set aside some time in the late morning or early afternoon, tell him, and let him have plenty of time to ask me any questions he wants to. Then, once he's done, I think I will head out and do a little shopping to help clear the air.

    I think this is a good plan, and I know that Asteroid has re-inforced the idea that it is okay to hold off telling him for a little while, but I am going to be really disappointed in myself if I do not get it off my chest. I am 23 years old, turning 24 in the fall, and I really want to put the time and effort that I am currently using to hide my sexuality from my father into finding potential guys who would be a good match and trying to set up a date here and a date there. And I know that those days will not come until I have the chance to tell my father up front that I am interested in guys. I don't even fear rejection. All I fear is that he will run the slippery slope fallacy and think... everytime we see a hot guy on TV, "is Matt turned on?" every time I go on my computer, and I looking up gay porn? every time I go "out with friends for the night" am I sucking some guys dick? You know, just run to ignorant assumptions.

    He is an opinionated guy, but my mother says that he is a very caring guy. He is just one of those guys who will care about your like no other but never show it, and certainly never say it. When I was in college, my mother used to always tell me that he would be super concerned... "make sure he comes home during daylight hours, its dangerous driving on the highway at night.." things like that. And whenever he has his friends over at the house and I am not around, he apparently used to gloat about how proud he was of me. Yet, he'd never tell that to ME. We have never been as close as most fathers and sons are, but there was always love for each other when push comes to shove. And in my college and post-college years, we've become somewhat closer. I just don't want to ruin that, but I have come to the conclusion that if my sexuality is a determining factor in that, then it wasn't meant to be. But I don't think it will.

    Sorry for rambling on. It makes me feel so much better to just put my thoughts on paper... or keystrokes on an awesome web forum. Thanks again.
     
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    It sounds like you have it pretty clear in your mind how you want to go about everything so I'm just going to wish you the best of luck :goodluck:and I hope everything goes great for you. If you can't do it just as you planned, don't beat yourself up because there will be another chance but I hope everything works out for the best :icon_bigg

    I'll be thinking of ya. (*hug*)
     
  14. Master Hade

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    GOOD LUCK!!!!
    I hope you have a good coming out and im thinking about you!
     
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    :goodluck::thumbsup:
     
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    What about having your mother tell him? That's what I did. I remember finally fighting through the 'butterflies' and just sitting her down and telling her. She was relieved. Then I asked her to inform, lol, the rest of the family including my father. Made things much easier.

    If that's not what works for you then the 'butterflies' are what you gotta get through. Just let it come out when it comes out. Tell him when you're ready and all that crazy stomach anxiety bs will go away.

    Good luck!!
     
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    Coming out to a parent is I believe one of the hardest things to do. I say do it when you feel you are ready and not before but I would do it sooner rather than later so that you don't have the risk of him finding out accidentally from another person. If you feel like you are ready to tell him while your mom is gone then I say go for it. Just let whatever you want to say come from your heart and you'll be fine.

    Knowing that you had an aunt who was a lesbian and that your dad accepted and loved her makes me think that while he might not understand for a while he will still love and learn to accept you. Tell him and then let him digest it and have some time to think and everything will be fine. Good luck!

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    Running the risk of sounding like a broken record, let me once again say thank you to everyone for cheering me on and providing advice to me. The 72-hour window has come and gone, and my father still does not know. I think I am going to make arrangements to tell him either one night this week during dinner, or during our standard big dinner on Sunday. I just wish that I had the guts to tell him man-to-man.

    On a slightly more interesting note, I just had a conversation with my uncle (he, and my mother, are the only family that know at the moment). Let me preface this by saying that I came out to him at lunch at a casino one day, and he was his normal, supportive but in a funny way, self. So, I told him that I chickened out and the weekend has come and gone. Aside from telling me to wait until I am ready, he said "and you acted surprised when you told me that you want to be the catcher and not the pitcher?" I thought that was kinda funny. I am definitely more of the submissive than the dominant type. But still, I just don't want there to be much drama during the week. I want to get it over with.

    420inc, I have thought about having my mother tell him for me, but when I did tell her, she had said that "you need to have this conversation with him, and I will be there to support you." I think it would, in the long term, be far less dramatic if I told him rather than (a) having someone else tell him, or (b) writing it in a letter. Not that there is anything wrong with those options - there is not! But knowing my father, that would portray me as the weak gay son rather than the gay son.
     
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    Hey there! Sorry to hear that you couldn't come out to him yet. I am sure you will find the courage to do so in the near future. You have tried and that's what counts. Don't be too hard on yourself though. You will know when the right time has come. Keep us posted.
     
  20. lulu165

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    its been 3 years since you last posted so I am assuming you told him? how did it go?