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    I- I've been feeling isolated lately. Really, really isolated. Maybe it started when I told my dad who I really was. I don't know... I feel alone, afraid and scared. This feeling of being gay... is tearing me to shreds. I'm always alone, I purposely shut out everyone around me. I feel alone in an empty cave everyday. Dark, but sometimes a day will come when I'll light the torch and see little light around me, but it'll never last long; as I'm back to feeling isolated. I feel like I don't fit in, nobody likes me, nobody will ever like me. I hate looking at myself. Anytime I see myself in the mirror, I cry. Because I'm so ugly. I don't even look at myself anymore. I refer to my reflection as the darker half. Just a shadow, filled with hatred and sorrow. I feel like I'm not worthy of being gay.
    Confusing. I guess that ties in with the hatred everyone feels towards me. I feel weaker for not succeeding in killing myself; when I tried sleeping on a bed of knives.

    Even sillier when I say it. I have no social skills; I can't talk to anyone, nobody wants to bother listening to me, nor would they care. I feel like a ghost with no spirit. Just floating around plaguing the world everyday as I exist. I don't enjoy anything in life. I just hate myself in everyday. I write long stories of how pointless, useless and horrible I am and how the world is in such a disaster because I'm alive. And the only way for that disaster to end, is if I leave this mortal coil. But there's something keeping me alive. Is there someone there that would care?
     
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    I'm so sorry that you have to go through this... I've written very similar things in the past and I know how horrible it is to feel so lost and alone. (*hug*)

    When I came out to my family and was rejected, I also found myself in the same dark murky pit that felt bottomless, a soul wandering in a cast emptiness with no light or hope to shine through. That feeling that I shouldn't exist and that I don't deserve to live. It lasted for months and every day it was harder to find reasons not to just end it, to stop the suffering and exisential pain. Unfortunately, one of the hardest things that a person can go through is to be rejected by your family and to not have anyone to turn to when that happens. You are so brave for holding on and surviving and you deserve to live and be happy, to find a partner that will love you and accept you for who you are. Within the darkness of your words there is a shining beauty that reveals a sensitivity and intelligence that will blossom if you find your way out of the darkness but it takes time and surviving will take a huge amount of will power when you are at your worst.

    I want you to know that you are not alone, I understand and have felt that pain that borrows deep down to the edges of your soul. I'm glad that you reached out and hopefully these will be tge tirst steps of a journey back to life. If you need to talk, I am here for you.

    Much hugs and love,

    (*hug*)

    Eveline
     
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    I have never had anyone say anything so kind to me before. I can't describe how it feels right now :'( A part of me wants to look up and crawl to the other side of the light that shines through and go too it, but the rest of me wants to remain in the darkness, wondering if this is just a mask of something unreal.
    Are you sure people will like me if I try to come out? I mean, I know I'm the worst person alive. I've tried to be a social and talk with people, after a few moments they realize I'm not the person they'd like to to keep in contact with. Something about me makes me unwanted to everyone. I've narrowed it down to two things: Gay appearance. Maybe the to just don't match. I do't know for sure. All I know is that darker half always finds a way to pull me back into the darkness.
     
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    Social skills can be worked on ... so can those dark feelings of low self esteem and shame.
    They lead to isolation.
    They are very common things for gay people to feel especially in the earlier days.

    I think you feel self hate, and sense other peoples' hate, but it is more likely a skewed perception.

    Have you read up on internalised homophobia? Here is a useful description posted by another ECer recently Internalized Homophobia | Revel & Riot. Does any of it apply to you?
     
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    First - I'm currently singing Pink's Pretty Pretty Please to you. Out loud. The fact v you can't hear it, some would say is say is a blessing. If you haven't heard song, please look it up.

    Second - being stuck in the dark sucks. The people here at EC can help. But you have to find a way to b love yourself. That is so important. And those times you feel you can't, let your friends (us) show you the love. (&&&)

    Quick personal question you don't have to answer. Are you in any kind of therapy or support b group?
     
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    Alot of it applies to me, I've read the internalized homophobia, almost everything mentioned applies to me. I never would of thought it would have applied to me. Its really hard to try and love myself knowing all the troubles and failures I've had in life. I tried to this morning. Looking at myself; it didn't work. I hurt my hand punching the mirror, now that's broken. And my hand's cut... But I could try again later. Maybe I'll get further.
    No, I am not in any therapy or group. Never have and never can. Those services want money. And its hard to talk to someone who charges an hourly rate.
     
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    It sounds to me like you have incredibly high and unrealistic expectations of both yourself and others. This is possibly because you are looking so hard for the reasons that you are unhappy and suffering loneliness that you are over-complicating your feelings and thoughts.
    When I was in my early teens I felt unwanted and incredibly lonely. Due to past experiences I worried that whenever somebody was nice to me or showed an interest in me it was because they had an agenda to use me for something. The fact that I felt so alone made me think that I was the problem, I hated the way I looked. The more I felt isolated, the more I tried to blend into the background, to just be nobody.
    The one thing I was sure of though is that I was gay. I knew that for a fact and it was maybe the one thing that I liked about being me. I know how odd that sounds but it's true.
    One day I decided to change how I felt about myself and so I did, just like that. I know that sounds hard to believe but that's what I did. I changed my whole image in true rebellious style, got rid of my geeky glasses for contact lenses, shaved my hair off etc but most importantly I decided to start liking myself.
    You may not feel ready to start liking yourself yet but try and think of the reasons why. Is it because you're a bad person? because you enjoy hurting others? because you choose to do immoral things? I'm going to guess it's not any of those so there isn't really a reason for you to dislike yourself.
    Your physical appearance is not all there is to being attractive. Your personality is so much more important when you let it show. When other people can see your inner happiness, your confidence, your intelligence or sensitive nature shining out through your smile then they will like you. The fact that you don't see your own qualities is probably why you don't show them to others.
    You have definitely come to a good place to get the support and encouragement you need. Things will definitely get better for you.
     
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    Feels like nightmare with no end. A nightmare where each monster is a negative aspect of myself. Morphed into some hideous creature. My sexuality causes too much anxiety. If I think about it too much I sometimes go into denial, sometimes I'll hit myself repeated until my mind is blank, or I'll just sit there and sink into a pool of despair. I want to accept it, but the monsters forced around me think otherwise. Even one threaten to punch me in the chest until I decide to be a man. :'( Worthy of being gay: I always thought that being so ugly meant you couldn't even be gay. I always believed being ugly is not welcome in the gay community.
    Social skills; everyday I shut everyone out. sometimes, the only little ray of sun shine that peaks at me is when I'm all alone. Writing these stories about the darker half and I. The Darker Half would constantly tear me down with hurtful words, and would summon monsters to kill me, and I'm always fighting back all RPG style, but can't ever seem to defeat the darkness. What's the point in fighting a battle you can't win?
    I have a strong feeling no one out there thinks I'm not ugly. Yesterday I went out for a walk and it feels like everyone's staring at my ugliness. Talking about it and avoiding me as much as possible. Anytime I try to talk to someone I feel the resistant.
    I've never said anything positive about myself because there's nothing positive to say. I've tried to look back and remember something positive; nothing comes to mind. I mean, writing a bunch of lengthy stories is positive? Okay.
    But there are lots of kind words here, I'll take that try seeking it. If I can find the strength to escape what holds me back. But that is up to me.
     
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    Are you speaking metaphorically or is this something that actually happened to you?

    Your idea of the 'gay community' is based on a stereotypical and damaged section of the greater society. This site is gay community and there is no ugly test involved when you join up.

    When you write these stories -which I should point out is one of your untapped positive qualities- you can make anything happen that you want. The fact that you choose not to cast yourself as the victor is your problem. Why not go back to past stories and write a new ending in which you win? Write whatever you want, even if you know that it will never happen but just make it so that you win. Do you often find it hard to finish things that you have started due to lack of motivation or energy?

    Could you post one of your short stories here, with a negative or positive ending, whichever you like.
     
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    This really did happen. It happened earlier today. And I went into one spiraling depression. :'(

    This is true. I did not encounter an ugly test when I joined. And there's that ray of light again!

    Writing stories is a positive quality? Is it really?
    It didn't feel like I choose not cast myself as the victor, the story seemed to always lead in that direction, even when I fight more battles and level up before fighting the boss: The Darker Half. I still loss. It makes me feel like all the hard work I've done is all for nothing. Just useless. Ahh! I have so much sorrow I wish would just disappear! :frowning2:
    I am going to try to write a new ending in which I win. Which means I'll have to fight a few extra battles to make the ratio of my chances of winning a little higher. 60:61.

    Always. Always, always.

    Okay. Never done this before but I'll try now:
    I'll just take a part from one of more recent stories: THE AFTER YEARS, A NEW ERA OF A GENERATION (Inspiration from the Final Fantasy Series).
    I've written a story first, then I made an audio RPG of it afterwards.

    (The Past):
    Mother?: Why are you here?
    Me: (...)
    Mother?: Have I not made it clear enough?! You are NOT welcome here anymore!
    Me: I-I-I'm sorry... I just wanted to see everyone...
    Mother?: Then you have seen us, now it is time for you to leave.

    (The Present):
    ???: You insolent wretch! Have you not learned from your past?!
    Me: You do you mean?
    Darker Half: SO you have forgotten!
    Me: You!
    Darker Half: It saddens me to know inferior species like this before me fails to realize its nothing but a lifeless shell wandering around without a purpose.
    Me: I! I-I..!
    Darker Half: There is nothing left to say. I shall end you now.
    Me: Me?! B-but I! ...! NO! You can't! I won't allow it!
    Darker Half: I didn't ask for you're permission.

    Battle

    (As I begin summoning...)

    Darker Half: This should be interesting.

    Me: (nothing happens) (Why aren't they answering my call?) I said to myself.

    Darker Half: As I said before, you're nothing but a lifeless shell. The Eidolons have given up on you. They no longer serve to a tyrant with no purpose.

    Me: You--!

    Darker Half: You're days are numbered. If you live through this by some chance, everyone you've come to know will hate you.

    Me: No... please.

    Darker Half: Don't waste your breath.

    (Summons Baraiankijular)

    Me: [!!!] Baraiankijular?! A forbidden Eidolon?

    Darker Half: Goodbye!

    (Summons Baraiankijular)

    (Something saves me from the attack!)

    Darker Half: [!] What the?!

    (Silence)
    (Teleport again)
    Darker Half: I see. You've all joined forces to try to save this sorry excuse for a human soul. This era repeats itself as not once, but twice before in 227 A.D. Only difference is; this is a whole new generation. With you're basic weaker creatures: The Head Of Smosh: Anthony. The ex-dragoon as he fails to admit it: Ian Hecox. The citizens who make up the land of Smosh: "Smosh Fam". Then of course we have the familiar species: Freya, Eiko, Steiner, Nogard, Jennifer, even Mother Penny.
    Zendane, oh, you was a sly one! Vivi's crushing on something he could never have. Not with that face! Har Har Har! He's waaaaaaaay outta your league! Any who! Cole, Dylan, twin mages keeping the legacy of the now "burned in ruins: Mysidia". You know, in the legend in all: One upon a dragon...
    The rest of you cowards, and of course the one and only Vivi of what? Of Who? Do you we know exactly who you are?
    Vivi, summoner, black mage, regular person? Darker half? Brother, Self.
    Even to this day, Vivi, they still don't know who you are.
    ....But I do. And what are, is nothing more than a lifeless, heartless, pathetic excuses for a living human soul, placed here on this planet to do nothing but cause darkness and trouble of the people who live in this world. And its hard to grasp you not even ashamed.

    Me: (..) That's because.... I have nothing to be ashamed about.

    Darker Half: So the soulless retch says.

    Me: The only thing soulless on this planet, is you.

    Darker Half: [!]

    Me: You are my darker half. You feel nothing at all. All you feel is... Is

    Both: Nothing but hate...

    Me: And all this time I've nourishing this part of myself with all the hatred in my heart. With all the lack of love, I was the only part that could feel love.
    The darker half masked it all.
    Here I am think I'm the worst person of all. When really its been my inner self. What I've been fighting all these years is not pain, its not tears, its... YOU!
    You've completely taken over my existence! And know you're wanting to become one as a whole. And lose the one good part of yourself.

    Darker Half: I haven't taken over your existence I gave you existence!

    Me: That's what you want to believe. You're days here are over.

    Darker Half: (...) You just now coming to terms with yourself. How meaningless. I can't believe it has taken you this long to realize your pointless existence. You are a disgrace Vivi! A disgrace! And you must be eliminated! You cannot live any longer!
    I will make you leave this mortal coil! I swear it!!

    V: But!--

    Darker Half: SHUT THE :***: UP! ....AND.... DIE...!!
    Darker Half: Time to take back what I gave you!
     
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    So the Darker Half is a bit more of a complex character than I had expected. I assumed the Dark Half would posses only negative and disruptive qualities but having read this I believe that it has some qualities that me/Vivi is in admiration of. Perhaps the reason that the DarkHalf cannot be defeated is not its strength or power but more that Vivi does not want to conquer it. It is interesting that while all others in this section of the story do not know the real Vivi, the DarkHalf does. It is a consistent being in the lonely existence of Vivi, even more so than the mother. I wonder what the Dark Half thinks of the mother and Vivi family.
    Perhaps Vivi is envious? He wants to be more like the DarkHalf. Vivi is clearly the stronger of the two and he know it but he seems to thrive on the attention of the DarkHalf. It is almost as though he enjoys being submissive to the DarkHalf.

    Do you spend a lot of your time playing pc/console games?
     
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    You think I admire the darker half? I can't see that...
    Vivi admires the strength and courage the darker half possesses (even though it is in the wrong way) but I wish that of my own?

    The Darker half is sure that Vivi's family hates him with all their heart and are awaiting his death, so everyone can finally be peaceful and move on.
    Maybe Vivi does want that strong mentality the darker half carries, just doesn't want the rest of the hatred.

    "I can't be open because of the darker half" Vivi tells Zendane.

    No. I write stories alot. I'd play games only to take what's in the story. FFIX and FFIV both have unique amazing story line and that's the only part of game that interested me. I never engaged deeply into a video game. The only games I've ever played were Final Fantasy IX, then IV and after that, I've been writing these stories like crazy. Thousands of pages of countless stories. I get a kick outta that.
     
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    In your first post you said when you told your dad who you really was. Did you mean sexuality or something else?
    Do you think that your family hate you or is it just the Darker Half that believes that?
    Vivi doesn't want the hatred but isn't it all his hatred that makes the Darker Half stronger. Maybe he doesn't want to feel hatred or anger but he is envious of the power that it gives the Darker Half. Vivi wants desperately to be everything good but he isn't rewarded for it.
     
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    My sexuality.

    I know my family hates me. I'm pretty sure my dad has told them. I'm not important to them.

    sometimes the darker half does things that make Vivi rage with hate which (in return) nourishes the half.

    This is true. He also would love to tell Zendane how he really feels about him, but can't.
     
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    How do you know that your family hates you?
    Why can't Vivi tell Zendane? It can't be because of the darker half as it would benefit from vivi being closer to someone and having more to lose. It would also benefit from any potential rejection that Vivi could suffer. I think there must be something external that is stopping vivi.
     
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    Because if being gay means getting punched in the chest everyday until I'm stop, that's nothing but hate.

    Vivi can't tell Zendane he likes him; its bad enough Vivi feels he's so ugly compared to Zendane, having Zendane find out that Vivi's a part of what once defeated Zendane himself in a battle. That'll ruin everything! Zendane wondered about the similar power that bastard had to Vivi's. (Summoning power)

    The Darker Half benefits Vivi to be closer to someone. (???) Thinking twice...
    That half draws Vivi away from everyone, as it says "do they know the real you?" No they don't; as Vivi is sick, evil, and twisted, The Darker Half referring to itself, but because its a part of Vivi, No goodness could come through.
    Vivi has the goodness and the darker half has the hatred.

    Did I mention this line of the story?

    Mother:"So he took that...last innocent part of his soul, and placed it into another human child on the other side of the world.... You."

    By "the other side of the world" metaphors: The mirror Vivi looks into. That reflection in the mirror is the Darker Half in which gave Vivi life.
     
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    Just to clarify. Is the dark half the original person and it is his goodness that was sent in to the other world to form Vivi? Or is it the other way round?
     
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    This is correct.
     
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    Now I'm getting it. And is Zendane on the same side as Vivi or the dark half?

    ---------- Post added 8th Mar 2016 at 11:28 PM ----------

    Who does this? Why?
     
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    On the side of Vivi. Zendane doesn't know though that the Darker Half (which has taken its own form) Is part of Vivi. its like a dead, severely burned, uglier appearance of Vivi. Hence that ugliness I see in the mirror.

    My dad, he will keep doing it until I "become a man". Meaning until you stop being gay.
     
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