1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Gay, Closeted, and Desperate to tell someone about it.

Discussion in 'Coming Out Advice' started by ohmeepdx, Apr 21, 2016.

  1. ohmeepdx

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2016
    Messages:
    3
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Portland
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    All but family
    I'm new to this site, and making a profile here was actually a huge step for me. Here's the basic info on my situation:

    I'm 24 years old, gay, and deep in the closet. I've been with my current girlfriend for almost two years and she doesn't know. She loves me and wants to get married, but our relationship is of course being strained by my sexual conflicts. I've been through this four times. Starting at the age of 16 in high school, I have had four different girlfriends. After each relationship i have come out to the girl in question and several friends, but each time after several months I "went back inside" the closet and told people that I wasn't gay after all. Pathetic, I know, but several things have been muddying the waters, on top of immense internalized homophobia and pressure from my homophobic parents.

    Namely, I masturbate a lot, to all kinds of porn. Something of a bad habit. I often masturbate to pictures of fashionably clad women. Female bodies do excite me on some level, but only when tastefully clothed to a decent measure. looking at them makes me think of men and sex with men, and a fun sort of erotic competition with the woman in question. At least that's what I tell myself. At times I wonder if what I'm really in denial about is that I'm thoroughly bisexual and need different sex with a variety of partners. That seems far more horrible than being gay, because what I want most out of life is to find someone I love to settle down with and start a family.

    There are more weird dimensions to this sexual ambivalence, but I've become slowly surer and surer that I prefer men, for the simple reason that I'm extremely attracted to penises and don't want to be anywhere near a vagina.

    Can anyone make sense of this? Can anyone help me relate to all these strange feelings? I've been struggling with this without end since I was 11 years old.
     
  2. Bluesteel

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2015
    Messages:
    89
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    California
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    Out to everyone
    First off welcome! :smilewave and congratulations on coming out to yourself it's a big step in the right direction.

    I just want to say if you know your gay and in a straight relationship don't get married. I thought I could suppress my feelings forever and wound up getting married and having children. And it only got worse from there for me. And it's not fair to the woman involved either. I know it's difficult to address our own sexuality, trust me I struggled for years And cried a lot over it. But it really does get easier over time as long as you can move forward positively. Have you thought about seeing a therapist? Preferably one that specializes in LGBT issues? I started seeing one a few months back and she has helped me tremendously. Just know your not alone and there are a lot of great people here willing to help. I know I'm not the best advice giver as I'm still trying to figure you my own issues but I hope I helped in some way. (*hug*)
     
  3. WilliamHunter

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2015
    Messages:
    27
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    San Digeo, CA
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    Out to everyone
    Welcome Out. I agree with Bluesteel. Conflict is good. It helps us learn about ourselves and grow. Good therapist really tell you nothing new, but they do help clarify the thinking process and bring to light your answers. I'd encourage you to find at least one gay mentor to help you through your conflicts. I'm fortunate to have found one who is like a brother to me. He's really helped me understand being gay in a non-gay world. Best wishes. You'll get there.
     
  4. Embi

    Embi Guest

    I think the first step would be to tell your girlfriend and break up with her. Both of you deserve a relationship with someone who loves you back and it benefits neither of you when you stay together for much longer, as difficult as it may seem.
    You don't have to come out immediately. Everyone takes their own time. Meanwhile you could go to local LGBT+ groups or to pride events. Getting support from people like you is very important and will help you a lot to accept yourself fully. You should come out when you feel comfortable with yourself, which you don't seem to feel yet. It takes some time, but eventually you'll accept the way you are and then you can take the next step and come out to people.

    I just wanted to tell you that being bisexual does not mean that you need different sex with a variety of partners. It means you are attracted to more than one gender, but you can definetly have one partner and stay with them for your whole life and be in a happy, monogamous relationship with or without kids. Just wanted to get that stereotype out of the way because it really bothers me personally.

    Either way you say yourself that you aren't really attracted to women. To me it sounds more like you tried to tell yourself you are attracted to them. You don't have to be entirely attracted to men only. That doesn't mean you have to label yourself as bisexual. Sexuality is very fluid.
     
  5. PatrickUK

    Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2014
    Messages:
    6,943
    Likes Received:
    2,362
    Location:
    England
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    Out to everyone
    I think it's important to not read too much into what you are watching. Porn has its place and many, many people watch it, but it really isn't a good indicator of sexuality. Far better to pay attention to your personal fantasies - the thoughts that get you off. Do you mostly think of the same sex or the opposite sex when you are masturbating without visual aids like porn.

    Very few things in life are 100% and there is no reason why we should attempt to set a rigid and definitive standard for our sexual orientation. You may find that you are predominantly attracted to the same sex, but still retain a certain attraction to the opposite sex, along the lines that you described in your post. It's really not unusual and it works in reverse for straight people, by the way. From what you have said, it seems more likely that you are [predominantly] gay, but only you can make the final decision about that.

    If you are really struggling to come to terms with your sexuality and seem to be in a loop with your feelings of internalised homophobia and all of the associated behaviours, it might be a good idea to speak to a therapist about it.
     
  6. SpTara

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2016
    Messages:
    47
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Dublin, Ireland
    Gender:
    Female
    Gender Pronoun:
    She
    Sexual Orientation:
    Lesbian
    Out Status:
    Out to everyone
    Welcome!

    Being with your girlfriend and even thinking of marrying is not fair to you but specially to her. You know, it's not compulsory to be in a relationship, so you can stop it and try to figure things out, there is no hurry :slight_smile:

    Maybe you could see a therapist or just try to meet lgbt people and you will make improvements step by step.
     
  7. Vari

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2016
    Messages:
    1
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Indiana
    Gender:
    Female
    Sexual Orientation:
    Straight
    Out Status:
    Not out at all
    Hello! I am new to the site, but not so new to the Two-Spirit or Bi-gender aspect of life. Let me offer my view on the topic soley from a different point of view. Before I do let me give a tiny bit of perspective first. I am a submissive hetero female who has two Masters. Yes I am in a poly relationship. One Master is hetero, the other is His Bi-gendered wife. I knew the male first and only 18 months later finally learn the secret that had been hidden from me. So now you see why I want to give a different perspective.

    I have read many posts and for a good many bi-gendered individuals, they have a good grip on what gender they are more comfortable living as and what gender they are more drawn to romantically and sexually. However, each person is unique. There is no reason to force yourself into a box and be unhappy. Now, you do need to be honest with yourself first. I know I have a Master who's body resembles mine, but I do not see myself as gay or bi, because the person I am in the relationship is male. So, take time, really see who you are and once you accept that, then you can work on the relationship you have and will have moving forward. You may have to leave your girlfriend. That is just a sad fact. Not all women or men for that matter are as accepting. However, it is the most selfish thing someone can do, lie to themself and to someone they love and care about.

    As for the masturbation, most people do it and you'd be surprised at the things that arouse others. There is nothing wrong at all with what you enjoy.

    I hope that you can find the happiness you deserve.
     
  8. angeluscrzy

    Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2015
    Messages:
    1,074
    Likes Received:
    136
    Location:
    Maryland
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    Some people
    Op, I went through a lot of this as well. I tried coming out several different times over the years, but always found myself shuffling back in the closet. I think maybe I just got tired of being alone, and just wanted *someone*. My last relationship was for 14 years and we have 3 children. I truly thought the feelings I had could be pushed back and kept in check, and it worked for a while, but looking back and I can see the way those feelings gained prominence once again. Finally just reached the point where I couldn't do it anymore. There were other problems that led to us splitting, but the need to deal with my sexuality was much greater than any desire to work things out.
    All in all, I'd just say you owe it to yourself to work these things thru. I wish I had a stronger resolve in my youth to deal with all the feelings I had.
     
  9. ohmeepdx

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2016
    Messages:
    3
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Portland
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    All but family
    Hey Guys. OP here with an update.

    I've been battling fear over coming out for 15 years.

    But I've finally done it. I just came out to my girlfriend at 1:30 PM East USA Time. I told her I was gay.

    She took it surprisingly well. I feel fucking fabulous.

    What should I do next? I still don't want to tell my parents just yet... they're quite homophobic.

    advice anyone ? -.-
     
  10. PatrickUK

    Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2014
    Messages:
    6,943
    Likes Received:
    2,362
    Location:
    England
    Gender:
    Male
    Gender Pronoun:
    He
    Sexual Orientation:
    Gay
    Out Status:
    Out to everyone
    If you have joint friends, you may wish to tell them next. Before telling your parents, try to build up a support network -- people you can turn to and lean on if your parents react badly. I hope you will include this forum in your support network too.

    Well done on coming out to your girlfriend. I'm sure it felt very daunting, but you have crossed a big hurdle now and no longer have the secret locked up inside.
     
  11. dublinz

    Regular Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2016
    Messages:
    63
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Edmonton
    Gender:
    Male (trans*)
    Sexual Orientation:
    Straight
    Yes. The good news is you've been here before. Not like you aren't getting to know yourself. Bi or gay. Either way, you have repeated behaviours that will help you to trust yourself.

    How many times can you beat yourself up by dating a woman and to be frank, it's not fair to the women either. Live life and enjoy... :slight_smile: