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Does it really matter whether your college is gay-friendly?

Discussion in 'Coming Out Advice' started by Gaydar, Nov 3, 2009.

  1. Gaydar

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    Alright, here's my situation. I am a sophomore in high school and now have (on my ever-changing list:lol:slight_smile: narrowed it down to two most likely colleges. They, unfortunately, happen to be just about as far down the gay-friendly spectrum in opposite directions as can possibly be. The colleges are Colorado University and Brigham Young (Colorado, of course, being the LGBT-friendly one).

    Basically, my question is whether or not going to a university where homosexuality is frowned upon will ruin my college experience. Make no mistake, I have no doubts as to whether, if I tried very, very, very, hard, I could suppress my gayness.* Basically I'm wondering if it would be 4 years of hell. It would really help to hear from people who put academics before their social and sex life and chose a very gay-unfriendly school and hear what their experience has been like.

    *Well, let me revise that statement. I am not quite sure at all. Here's where I'm at as far as coming out:

    • I am acting much more flamboyant around school in general (an example being doing my signature runway walk upon request :lol:slight_smile:
    • I am going to a local LGBT support group which a lot of gay kids from my school go to (although technically it's strictly confidential, the leader of the group even explained to me that if my mom called and asked if I was there, she would have to/get to say no).
    • I've kind of come out during a facebook chat to a friend I really trust to keep the secret. What I mean is that I said it in a way that if I ever decided that I didn't want him knowing I was gay, I could bring it up and pretend it was all a big misunderstanding and that I wasn't gay. In other words, I never said "I'm gay" to him.)
    (You can probably tell on that last one that I thought a lot about it after coming out to him. A lot of scenarios have been played out in my mind (not sexual ones, of course).

    In essence, what I'm saying is that I'm worried that at some point during those four years, I might want to come out to everybody or find a cute guy and want to ask him out or something along those lines. I'm scared that if I go to BYU my sexuality might be very restrained and I would not enjoy my college experience at all.

    But then again, it would also be interesting to hear from people that think that one should go to a college based on what is has to offer and not what, err... the people have to offer :icon_bigg. That has also occurred to me but I am beginning to question the practicality of suppressing my sexuality for 4 years.
    Any thoughts?

    Thanks much.
     
  2. AtomicCafe

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    I kept gay-friendliness in mind when applying. All the schools I applied to were pretty liberal (and the one I'm at now is VERY liberal) just because I knew I'd be miserable if I went 4 years without ever once mentioning my sexuality. Turns out I went even more flamboyant than I thought I would -- I'm an active member of most of our LGBTQ clubs and am out to everyone. Found a great girl who I'm with now.

    Keep academics in mind first and foremost, but if you're between two schools that you think you'll enjoy equally for what they offer, I'd suggest going for the more gay-friendly one.
     
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    I think going to a gay-friendly college is important. College isn't all about academics y'know? It's about experiencing true, 100% freedom away from your parents for the first time (responsiblily), maturing, and gaining life experience. When the weekend rolls around and you want to wind down, do you want to be stuck in your dorm alone surfing the Web for hours or do you want to be out having fun with friends, or better yet, openly on a date with your boyfriend? Humans are social creatures; we need to love and to be loved.

    Since you're technically not out yet, could you imagine having to dodge questions, tone down your "gayness" LOL, and lie about a part of your life for 4 or more years again? When you're a full-fledged adult? What if you slip up and someone sees you giving your boyfriend a peck on the lips at a party? What if you come out to a friend you thought was trustworthy and they tell the dean? What if someone finds gay porn on your computer, assuming you look at it? What if the way you walk, talk, dress raises people's suspicions?

    Going to BYU may provide you with an excellent education, but would you want to live a lie for such a long time and possibly get expelled if you let your secret out?
     
  4. Kevin42

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    Well, I am going to one of the top ten most conservative campuses in the nation (I believe we are number eight?) and one of the most religious campuses in the country. Also, we placed seventh on the "Alternative Lifestyles Not an Alternative".

    I have to say that Texas A&M is not gay friendly. However, I do not fear that I am ever going to be in danger of physical harm just for being gay. As a matter of fact, many of my friends know I am gay and don't care. Of course there are plenty of people saying homosexuality is sinful and evil...but I was under the impression that you will get that anywhere. Furthermore, I met my boyfriend in the dorm my freshman year, and we have been dating for almost two years. Sure it's not pro-gay, but it's not that bad, and we really enjoy the campus and the town.
     
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    I would definitely say that going to a gay friendly college is important. Everyone says college is the best four years of your life, and while I'm not sure how true that is (though it certainly has been true for me to date), you should be able to be yourself throughout it. Though moreso in the essence that the college is not incredibly conservative where your sexuality is repressed (You don't need to go to an incredibly liberal college, I'd just avoid an incredibly conservative one too).

    Also, you're a sophomore in high school, don't limit yourself to two schools just yet. You have a lot of time to do some looking.
     
  6. Chip

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    I think going to BYU would be an ENORMOUS mistake, given the venomous hatred the Mormon Church continues to show toward gay people. There's a big difference between going to a school that isn't gay-friendly and going to a school run by a bunch of bigots who hate gay people with every bone in their body.

    Since Mormon people are generally really nice to your face, you probably won't get the sort of open hatred you'd see at, say, Liberty University (Jerry Falwell's school) but BYU is very, very heterosexist and, for that matter, very sexist... it is generally recognized as a place where women go to find a Mormon mate so they can get married, be a housewife, and have lots of babies.

    College is, in addition to academics, a place where you grow emotionally and learn about deeper friendships and relationships and so forth. I think BYU, because of its combination of issues, is likely to really shortchange you on a significant portion of the college experience. Besides, do you really want to be giving more money to the assholes who use it to take rights away from gay people in every state they can?

    There are lots and lots of truly fantastic schools to choose from. I would suggest you continue to look. If you have an idea of what your area of scholastic interest is, and what factors are important in selecting a school perhaps you could post more about that and get some suggestions from people here.
     
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    Your priorities will probably shift 180 degrees between now and the time yo start applying and making decisions. You'll figure out what is important between now and then.

    :slight_smile:
     
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    Well i dont want to crush any hopes here, but your going to be choosing between "the lesser of two evils" so keep that in mind. No school is going to be 100% "gay friendly". Your more looking as varying degrees of "less" un-gay friendly.

    Take my university for example. We have the hallways draped with rainbow flags and posters of hot jock's making out in various places, yet homophobia is rampantly present. Just today for example i had to listen to an entire conversation from the person behind me in english class spit venomous words out his shit-hole of a mouth about a flamboyantly dressed person at a halloween party. I have not heard such horrible things said about anyone let alone a gay person in such a long time. It can be hard to deal with. Dont think that if your university has a LGBT group that your "safe". It takes a village, and in that village you will always have the village idiot.

    That said, there are those moments i feel blessed to go to my school. Some days when i feel like shit i can just sit in the A building lounge and stare at the three giant pride flags and i just feel....a calm, soothing presence. In that lounge today in fact, i heard a group of friends talking and one of them said "Thats so gay." and in response the other friend said "AHEM!" to witch followed an "Oops, sorry." :slight_smile: It made me smile.

    Why am i telling you this? Basically, you seem like your unsure about coming out. I just dont want you to think your choosing between a) going to an un-friendly school with a good education and staying closeted or b) going to a friendly school with not as good an education and coming out. Thats not how it works for a few reasons. One, the education level depends on the amount of time and effort YOU put in more than the school you go to. The other thing is coming out. Its not going to be much easier at the "friendly" school, and there is no guarantee it will push you out of the closet. You could spend your entire 4 years there and not come out.

    If you want my opinion, try and come out to that friend of yours now. If you can come out to some friends and family now you will be able to better judge how much LGBT representation at a school is worth to you. Its ultimately your call, but remember than if your teetering on the egde of coming out now, closeting yourself for another four years may seem like an eternity for you.