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Discussion in 'Coming Out Advice' started by Sylver, Feb 14, 2010.

  1. Sylver

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    I can't believe I'm going to do this, but...

    A couple of really moving stories on EC have shown me the meaning of courage, and that's helped me to find my own courage. So I think I'm almost ready to face the biggest challenge of my coming out process, my parents. I'm scared shitless of doing this, but I don't think there's any turning back now. To my own surprise, I've decided to come out to them in a letter. We have a long history of combative arguments any time we talk about sensitive issues face to face, so I'm confident that this is the best way for me to tell them and for them to hear it.

    I have one decision left to make, and I'd really appreciate your advice. I have multiple issues with my parents, all of which need to be addressed for me to really move forward with my life. I'm debating whether to deal with them all at once in this letter, or keep it exclusively focused on telling them that I'm gay and save the rest for another time.

    I'm asking because I've come to realize that all of these issues are inextricably entangled with my sexuality. For example I can't talk about homosexuality to my mom without her seeing it through her distorted religious lens which will draw the discussion towards my religious rebellion as she sees it (e.g. I've decided to be gay just to damn her to hell). And I don't think I can gain the footing I need to tell my bully dad "I'm gay, deal with it" unless I show him that he has to start respecting me by taking him to task on his ongoing disappointment in me. To him this will be just one more way that I've let him down.

    I'm afraid that if I limit the letter to just coming out to them, they'll formulate the wrong impressions of why I'm doing this. I need them to know that this is part of a self-reconstruction process that includes a total reworking of my relationship with them. I also have no precedent for talking about sexuality with them (we never had the "birds and bees" talk and I don't think I've ever heard them say the word "sex") and I need to fit this into a context that they can relate to. And yet I'm worried that they'll think I'm attacking them if I throw everything on them at once, and I can't see that turning out well either.

    Any advice?

    (You guys have no idea how far I've come since arriving at EC...)
     
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    Hey James,

    It sounds like you're in much of the same boat that I was in a year and a half ago. I am 25 years old, and came out to my mother a few months before my 24th birthday. My dad seems to be much like yours - bullyish. Not in a macho, masculine way, but in a way that makes him seem like he is so much better than me. So many things I've done are a disappointment to him. I played sports but was never good. I never had a girlfriend and in college I didn't have any sex. The only accomplishments I have are academic in nature, and he's said a few times that he's proud of those, but then everything else just yields disappointment. For this reason, I came out to my mother, but not to my father. To make matters worse, my mother thinks that it was a phase, and is looking forward to me finding a girl to have children with. I am an only child, and grandchildren are the only thing that my mother wants from me.

    Any way, back to your request for advice. I believe that being direct and to the point is important. I think that you should write a detailed letter that is to the point (don't beat around the bush like I tend to do). Tell them everything that is on your mind:

    - your sexuality
    - how you feel
    - what your concerns are
    - that you are reconstructing yourself
    - that you want to build a stronger relationship with them

    As far as timing goes, you may want to let a little time lapse after they read it - to let the air clear. Maybe you could go to the movies with a friend while they read the letter? Just make sure that you cover everything. Do it once and get it over with. Coming out to my mother was one night from hell, and then everything seemed to get better the next day. I felt liberated. I was comfortable with myself.

    If you want to discuss it further, feel free to send me a message. Best of luck. My thoughts will be with you. Please, if you wouldn't mind, share how everything goes.

    --Matt
     
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    Hey Matt, thanks for the advice! I should probably add that I live on my own (not with my parents) and I don't depend on them for any financial or critical support. So my fear in coming out to them is them rejecting me and a loss of any future relationship with them - which I think is a real possibility. Still, I have to do this for my own sake.
     
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    Hi James,

    and first things many (*hug*) (*hug*), I am sure coming out to your parents is a very difficult decision to make.

    I have never been in the situation you're in, so remember that what I am going to say is in no way based on a personal experience, just on what I think after reading your post. I am sure that others with experiences similar to yours are going ti give you far better advice.

    It seems that you have been keeping a lot of things to yourself because your relationship with your parents is not very easy (this is something that I can relate to).
    And it seems that some of the things that you stongly disagree with your parents are directly linked to your sexuality.
    I tend to think that telling them all these things you kept for yourself during all these years would be cathartic. Yes they might not react very well at first, but maybe putting everything together will also help them to understand you.
    I think you can add at the beggining of your letter that you respect them and don't want them to take this as an attack but as an attempt for you to explain them things about you that you need them to know.

    I wish you good luck and a lot of courage. I hope you will find support around you.
    Let us know how things went.
    Take care, (*hug*) Cécile
     
  5. ScentedRegrets

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    You're welcome. Having your own place does make the process much easier, though I wouldn't say by any stretch of the imagination that it is an easy process. It is one of the most difficult things you will do in life. Ask yourself... am I really okay if they do decide, after all is said and done, that there is to be no relationship? I think what you have to ask yourself is 'which is more important - my coming to terms with myself and living my life on my own terms, or continuing to appease my parents?' I think that your parents are loving something that is a lie right now. I have a suspicion that things will be tense and awkward for a short period of time, but that everything will heal over time. Just consider the possibility that they won't heal over time. If your parents are really that stuck on their son not being gay, then maybe you have to move on. Not easy, but if it goes unsaid, then it is something that will hang onto you like a giant albatross forever.

    Its something that I am struggling with. 25 years old and I am still at home. I can't truly be myself at home, but I fear the loneliness of moving out.

    Again, best wishes. Let me know how it goes, or if you want more advice. Sounds like we have a lot in common. Feel free to message me if you want. I will be thinking of you!
     
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    Coming out to parents is pretty hard. I think the only thing that is harder is coming out to spouses or children, for those who ended up marrying someone of the opposite sex.
    At least for me, coming out to my mom was the one coming-out I kept trying to back out of even while I was telling her. If it wasn't for this place, I think I would never have managed to do it...

    My advice would be to focus on telling them that you're gay. Drawing all of the other issues into there could pose several problems:

    First of all, it will be quite long. Drawing in all issues will probably make it a mammoth letter, which is hard to keep focused. Reading the message will be emotional for them, and having all issues enumerated might be beyond their capacity to cope with all at once.

    You say that if you don't draw in the other issues, they might misunderstand your reasons. I'm inclined to think it's the other way around. If you're drawing in other disagreements, they might think telling you're gay is just a way to get back at them for the other issues hanging between you. Some parents just have a way of making it about themselves when given the opportunity.

    This letter will serve to open the restructuring process. It isn't a closing statement, and a process is not something you can do in a single step.
    Hopefully it will serve as the proverbial stone in the pond to dislodge the arguments that got stuck. But I still think it's best to then have the arguments face-to-face. Because they will come up regardless of what you write in the letter. So it would seem best to make it a clear message of openness, rather than a one-sided enumeration of everything that bothers you.

    Then again, that's just my two cents. I have some issues with my family (don't we all? :wink:), but I feel that keeping my coming out as something I did purely for myself was the right decision to make. All families are different, though, so maybe having everything in one big letter can be worthwile as well!

    In any case, you've come a long way already, and I know you can do this! (*hug*)
     
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    I think as the others. Keep your message focused and on point, and don't give them any openings. (For instance, don't say "I think I'm gay" because that implies you're not sure.) Be factual, confident, friendly, and open. And yes - you can be all four. :slight_smile:

    * You love them.
    * You're working on becoming a better person.
    * Part of that involves being honest about who and what you are.
    * You're gay.
    * You hope to strengthen your relationship with them.

    You may need to write and rewrite, edit and re-edit your letter. Any place it doesn't sound factual, confident, friendly and open, do some editing so it does.

    Lex
     
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    Believe it or not, I think that most of us do.

    I agree with all that has been said so far - a letter is a good choice as it will let you say your piece carefully and without interruption, and Lexington's advice is spot-on as well.

    I wish you best!
     
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    Thanks everyone for your great advice! :icon_bigg

    What you guys say makes total sense. But every bone in my body is telling me that I need to throw it all on them to have any hope of them understanding it in the context of "me". Or is it possible that I'm just hoping I can bury the coming out part so deep in a pile of other crap that they won't fixate on it? Something tells me I'm trying to hide it.

    In working through this whole gay thing I've come to realize that I am scared of my parents. It makes no sense - I'm totally self-sufficient, I'm far old enough to not need their support even implicitly. We barely even talk to each other. So why am I so scared of how they will respond?

    It's funny how in a reply I made to someone else's post about fear of rejection I mentioned that while I used to be horribly afraid of rejection, I've pretty much got over it by being in the sales world where it's a fact of life. But that was a bit of a lie. I am still afraid of one rejection - being rejected by my parents. In fact I am mortified of it. I can't explain why - it's not a logical thing because I don't need them any more, and they haven't really respected me, well, ever!

    God I hate family dynamics! :angry:
     
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    I can understand your fear of rejection by your parents. I am totally independent, live halfway across the world, and see my folks maybe twice a year (and rarely talk on the phone) but I know I could not stand if I were to be rejected by my parents. Friends can be made and lost, but family is forever. It's your link to your childhood, your growing up, basically you.

    As for how much/little to put in your letter; maybe for now, just start writing. Write everything that you want to say. Later on, you can edit and re-edit, likely trimming down and getting the focus on your coming out and maybe the 5 points that Lex wrote about earlier. And of course if you shared your letter writing process with EC, you know you'll get a lot of input back :wink:

    I wish the best for you James (*hug*)
     
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    Hi there! Maybe a part of you is hoping that your coming out won't be the focus of when you do talk with them or see them the next time but with coming out to parents, you don't want to

    because that could potentially make for even a harder coming out. Try not to hide it. I wouldn't try to deal with every issue at once in the letter, deal with each issue on its own.

    I think the idea of writing a letter is a good approach as the letter will allow you to formulate your thoughts and mention what you feel need to be mentioned without being 'interrupted' and you can make it as long as you would like it to be. The others have already given you quite a bit of input on what you could mention.

    Even if you are self-sufficient and have own life for some time now, and even though your relationship with your parents is not as good as you perhaps would like it to be, deep down within you, you still love them. Deep down, you are probably thinking that maybe 'I will disappoint them' or 'they will be disappointed in me' or 'maybe my coming out to them will make the little bit of contact that we do have, even less'. But know that often times, coming out and making an attempt to be open about ones self and say "this is me and I have learned a lot about myself and I am happy with where I am" can have the opposite effects. It bring you closer to your parents.

    Tied to it of course is the fear of rejection. You love them, you want a relationship with them. If you look back at this post and your other posts, your attempt to write to them about various issues and wanting to move on with life, is your desire to have a better relationship with your parents. Not only a better relationship but perhaps also a more honest relationship. No one will ever be free from the fear of rejection, especially not when it comes to parents or family.

    Coming out to them requires you to look at your relationship with your parents more closer than you have for a long time. Your letter will have to communicate your current relationship, and your hopes for the future relationship, to them. Coming out is often about wanting to be closer to parents, or family members. Wanting to come out to them, is perhaps your first step in wanting to fix your relationship with your parents and perhaps building a relationship that you would like to have with them.

    If you feel ready, start writing your thoughts down and what you want to let them know about you.

    (*hug*)
     
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    James -

    You are in my prayers as you take this step.

    My only advice on the letter is that if you are exhaustive about all of the issues at once, it will come across like a canon blast. It may then be seen as emotional ranting and dismissed.

    It's funny how parental approval remains so important in our lives. It is a ways off but I'm already thinking about what I'll say to my dad. He's in Saudi Arabia and the only way I have of contacting him is email. There is no doubt in my mind about how he'll take the news. It won't be good.

    My father left the country 4 days before my wedding in 1994. I've only seen him a handful of times since. He is 72, married to an 40-year-old Ethiopian Islamic woman and has two children, 7 and 9. He turned his back on us years ago and yet I am still fearful of his rejection, even if it is an email.

    My own solution to this is to seek out mentors, father figures who can both affirm and help lead me through the process. I guess I'm talking about a surrogate in this case. It will certainly be better than nothing and likely to be much better than what I've had.

    Peace
     
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    GO ON JAMES WERE ALL BEHIND YOU!!!:slight_smile:, you are brave, no matter how many times you say you're not, I'm no good with helping people write letters but I'm telling you now you are doing the right thing GOOD LUCK:thumbsup:(&&&)
     
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    I didnt read everyone's responses so this may have been said. But I dont think you should include other problems you're having with your parents. Try to put it in the most positive light possible. If you include other things that you know might make them upset or think in a negative way, then they'll start associating your sexuality with negativity. Good luck! It's really hard to do, I'v tried a number of times and keep chickening out! No matter what, they'll most likely love you, it might just take some getting used to.
     
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    Hey there James,

    (*hug*) You totally got this.

    I feel that a lot of the above posters are right on their stance to give your parents a coming out letter that only contains your coming out. Adding to the content issues that you've had with them before will make it increasingly more difficult to keep the letter positive.

    However, I would say still go ahead and write a letter that details all your other issues with them. You don't have to give them this one, but it can be a great chance for you to outline your stance on the subject and reaffirm how you feel. Also, with your fear that your parents will think that your coming out is just another outlet of these other issues - being prepared for an extended discussion afterwords would be a good thing.

    In writing the letter though, here are my tips (which may or may not have already been stated...):
    1) Keep it positive. Any hints at negativity gives them the opportunity to think on that side of the spectrum.
    2) Keep it matter of fact. Don't let them have any question about your sexuality. Let them know it's something you are, not something you chose out of some rambunctious scheme to make life worse for them.
    3) Keep it to the point. In writing these letters, it's very easy to get off topic and go on tangents. Those tangents take up time, and can usually be saved for discussion after the reading of the letter.

    Once again, you got this James :icon_wink
     
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    I only halfway agree with keeping the letter to one issue. I guess it depends on how many issues you have though, and how pressing they are.

    When I wrote my letter to my parents, I had to re-write it 3 or 4 times after seeking editing approval from some others. I had to tell my parents both about my sexuality and my depression though, as they were unaware that I had been dealing with either. I had made the decision to not keep secrets from them anymore, since I hate lying, and I just brought it all out at once. Part of the reason for writing the letter was because I knew we wouldn't be able to get through everything I needed to say if I could see my mother crying.

    I did end up cutting parts though. I didn't tell them that I am no longer christian, even though I find it important, and I didn't tell them I had no plan on having children, which is important to them. When it came down to it, they were unimportant compared to the two larger issues at hand, and would only have given them more things to think and worry about. I think that is a good way to determine what you put in the letter. Does one issue make another seem trivial? If so, don't bother with the trivial issue.

    Good Luck

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    some advice I'd give on your Mom trying to make this about rebelion against her beliefs. Tell her this isn't about her, it is about you and your beliefs.
     
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    My gut feeling is that if you throw everything at her at once, the message will be lost. Your homosexuality won't be seen as a fact that you wish to bring to light, but as an addition "dig" to cause your parents more pain. I'd try to keep the waters as un-muddied as possible, and not try to rectify all your issues with your parents in one go.

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    Hi James
    Maybe if you kept the letter mainy to sexuality,your last paragraph could include somethihing about now they know this about you,it would be nice to get a little closer and be able to sit and have a conversation to answer any questions and clear the air on any other issues that need sorting.
    best of look anyway.