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I am gay and over men

Discussion in 'Coming Out Advice' started by fiddlemiddle, Jan 21, 2011.

  1. fiddlemiddle

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    Hi there
    I am gay and over men. The reason being is my experiences with guys have not always been positive. Usually the gay guys I encounter that I associate with are either I more into them than they are too me or they into me than I into them. In addition its very hard finding quality guys that are not feminine for me. I not attracted to feminine guys at all. I not attracted to guys that sleep around alot at all either.

    In addition its so hard finding someone for an relationship and even if I did, the odds of an gay relationship are likely to end up more of an open relationship over time than an straight relationship. Every gay couple I know that is in an long term relationship is an open one. However I know many straight couples that are completly faithful to each other.

    In addition so many gay guys out there sleep around too much and with women they dont tend to sleep around as much as guys. Neither do stright guys compared to gay men. I just dislike the slutty side of the gay world.

    I have dated women in the past and they have never been as slutty as any of the men I have dated. However I not attracted to women.

    If I took an pill to make me straight today I would. I sick of the hurt, and lifestyle of gay world. This is my rant. Anyway why is it so hard finding quality gay guys?
     
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    Hi there, and welcome to EC!

    I'm sorry that your experiences have been less than great so far with other guys. However, I can assure you that not all gay guys are as you've described. In fact, if you were to read more here on EC, I think you'll find that there are a LOT of quality guys here who would say they want the same things you do.

    (Not to suggest that you're to use this site as a dating site - because you're not! Just to say that you're not the only guy out there who feels that way.)

    I have been with my boyfriend for over 3 years now and we are planning to get married this summer. We do not have nor do we want an open relationship.
     
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    Thank you Jim, anyway congrats on you getting married. You are an very rare, as you dont have nor want an open relationship. I know one other gay couple that have an long term relationship that is not open however it is rare. But I know heaps of straight couples that are in long term relationships that are not open relationships and are still going strong.
     
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    ^ I don't have any good advice, really, I just wanted to let you know that I agree with you, and I feel the same way. I'm a very loyal/monogamous person by nature, and the levels of infidelity and various related dramas I've witnessed in the queer community are shocking to me, to say the least. There are so many things about the LGBTQ community that I love, but this is one aspect that I absolutely detest.

    I think it's mostly because I don't want people to think that just because I'm gay, I'm also promiscuous or open to an open relationship by default. I feel like I'm a pretty sexually liberated person, and I'd probably seriously consider an open relationship if it was brought up to me by a significant other, but I don't see the need for a nonchalant attitude towards infidelity or promiscuity. (Don't get me wrong, I think anybody has the right to do whatever they want, but I just don't think it's necessarily that healthy of a lifestyle.) To me, infidelity is more about a violation of trust between friends than it is about sexual gratification or whatever.

    I can only think of one friend I have who is gay (among many) who has not cheated on his boyfriend. That's crazy to me. I can't imagine betraying someone whom you're supposedly that affectionate of. Why would you ever deliberately hurt them?
     
  5. Nat3

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    Welcome to EC, and sluts are in both sides of the bridge.
    You must have been having bad luck=(
    Not all gays are sluts...
     
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    Sadly, I do agree, a lot of gays are somewhat slutty imo.
     
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    Yes and I am startled on guys I meet that admit they are not but when I get to know them they can be quite slutty. With all the women I have dated or good frinds with they were nowhere able to match the slutty lifestyle of the gay guys out there I have usually encounted on an date or nearly all my gay friends.

    I never hook up, and the guys I have dated recently is not good. What they want is sex, sex and sex. Cant we just be friends and see what happens? Why is that such an rare thing for me an the gay world?
     
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    So where are you meeting said guys?
     
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    well either at single sites and gay bars.
     
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    Ugh you know I swear to God it amazes me people's opinion of their own community. I'm going to say this right now, if you are meeting slutty gay men (and women) you are clearly not looking in the right places. If you are meeting them in bars, or online (well like online hook up sites I should say) yeah you're kind of going to get slutty guys. The fact is if you're only finding slutty guys your problem is that you are LOOKING. Looking for a boyfriend only gets you cheaters, sluts, and idiots. If you want the right guy, then wait for him. I found my boyfriend of four and a half months (so far :wink:) by not looking for him, he found me. So if you want to find a good guy, then wait for it. AS painful and annoying as that is to hear, it's true.
     
  11. zeratul

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    You gotta ask yourself though, do you have unrealistic standards? I mean, if you date outside of your league, then obviously, it won't last long in an environment that is more promiscuous. I mean the reason the gay world is more promiscuous is because we openly accept that sexual openness is a contributor to the overal well being of the body. In order for you to retain the interest of someone for a long time, you gotta ask yourself what aspects of your personality do they find unattractive, and try to change that. Often, at least in my mind, I've gotta be enthralled by someone in order to love him, and gotta love him in order to overlook shortcomings. If you even jump but one step you'd see that your relationships will be based on flawed premises and your love based on incorrect and often unilateral wishful thinking.

    Learn of the way in which these proper hetero couples meet and date and commit to a relationship, and apply it in your strategy.

    One other thing is age. Depending on your target dating age/generation, people have different habits and mindsets. So don't try to put one big generalization on all gay people.
     
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    anyway years ago I went to ex gay sessions to make myself straight becuase one of the main reasons is I am sick of the bs and the sluty lifestyle of the gay world. Anyway I did not change and change is impossible. I accept the way I am of course.

    Anyway thanks for your replies guys. I sure there are quality guy out there but in my experience it is rare. I sure to have someone sometime in the future but I got to enjoy being single.
     
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    THANK YOU someone gets it! When I finally enjoyed being single, my boyfriend appeared. I think there's some rule that, while doesn't physically exist, in a way it does exist. Basically the rule I believe exists that until you are happy being alone, you can never find a lasting relationship because you have to allow yourself to be happy alone even in a relationship. Yes your with someone, but for the first part of a relationship you're still two people so you kind of have to be able to be happy.
     
  14. zeratul

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    This is probably true, and it can be explained logically. If you are not happy alone, then chances are you will be clingy, and no normal person in their right mind likes a clingy perosn. Then the only people that tend to come into your life in that situation are people who maybe consciously or subconsciously taking advantage of you.
     
  15. Kohut

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    People say we have to enjoy being single before we find a good partner, but if you enjoy being single, then why would you want to be in a relationship? I understand this point of view, seriously, but it is also contradictory. I guess this was the problem with my last relationship. It didn't work out because I was feeling oddly fine being single, though I know there were also other problems that prevented us from being together. I was just tired of being involved in open relationships I never wanted to be. And no, I haven't had a boyfriend until now.
     
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    Thanks for the replys guys. Anyway there is an guy that wants to go out with me currently but I dont feel like going out with him as I like you feel oddly fine being single and he into me more than I into him and has issues which are off putting to me. Open relationships I cant stand however I can just tolerate it if each partner be totally honest with each other and with so many cases it is rare, as it happens where if its an open relationship one of the guys falls for one of his f**k buddies. I just cant stand the thought of that. If I am in love with someone and together with him I dont want him to be with another person and if he truly loved me he wont ever cheat.
     
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    Yeah I think zera is correct. All my other boyfriends I was quite clingy with and up until my current, I never liked being single. Always looking, always searching and basically clung to anyone who would date me. Now it's not a case of clinging, it's simply a case of enjoying each others company, and just being happy being together.