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Is This Legal!

Discussion in 'Coming Out Advice' started by collegeforfun, Apr 17, 2011.

  1. collegeforfun

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    Ok so I am trying to figure out is the fact that my mother is going and calling the internet provider to get information on what sites I go on and then them providing the information legal in regards to the invasion of privacy? I am 18 and legally and adult there has to be some kind of law that should prevent the forfeiting of information to a civilian on another person with out proper court order correct?:tantrum:
     
  2. Bryan90

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    Is the service provided legally to your mom or is it your own contract? If you're using internet service contracted to your mom, then technically you're using a service contracted to your mom, and the provider owes a duty to your mom, and not you, so in most cases, it probably is legal. But there might be specific laws in your region that prohibits it.
     
  3. Are you the one paying for the internet service and/or is it in your own house?
    I don't know that much about the legality of it, but I would assume it's legal for her to find out what sites are being visited in her home and with internet she pays for. If it's yours in your home then I would assume it's completely illegal and the company shouldn't be giving out the info about you.
     
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    what the others have said. What are you worried about exactly? Are you not out to her and there is stuff like this site in your browsing history? Or is it simply porn? xD If your out to her i'm sure it won't be to huge of an issue maybe just a little fight :x
     
  5. collegeforfun

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    Well the service is payed half by me and half by my mother but she is on the contract.... I am trying to understand though because the legal age I thought that you would have to have a court order to access any privacy information that placed over that person.

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    And it is an issue because this is how I was outed in the first place due to the fact she got them to give here emails and all... but I don't believe that to be legal for me being 18. The thing is now that she knows she can she has been going wild with trying to figure out everything that i do... and my situation is a little worse than a small fight... my parents are quite anger filled towards me for being gay to the point of attacking me verbally and physically and because with my father I fight back when he hits me I can't claim domestic violence
     
  6. Chip

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    First, it's VERY unlikely that the customer service department at your ISP would have access to the logs that would show what sites you've visited. Many ISPs don't even keep the logs.

    Second, simply because it's such a pain in the ass for the ISP to retrieve the logs and sort them, most of them simply ignore such requests unless they have a court order. The logs are not a neat, tidy list of what sites you've visited, they are entries of exactly what files you've retrieved, whether mail, web, or whatever. For example, retrieving one page on EC might generate 50 or 60 requests, so the volume of data is tremendous.

    As for the privacy info... if you are both on the agreement, then she would have right to access whatever info they have to offer (as would you.) But as I said, I'd be floored if they oblige her.

    Now... if you want to be safe for the future, go here

    https://www.torproject.org/

    and download the Tor anonymizer. I'll warn you that it's slow, but it would then be pretty much impossible for anyone to tell where you've been.

    And... in the longer term, you need to have a conversation with yoru mother to tell her she has no fucking business looking over your shoulder about what you're doing on the internet. You're an adult, and she should respect the boundaries. If she doesn't, then it may be time to get yoru own account, or move out, or something.
     
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    What Chip said.

    With the volume of data an ISP deals with it is pretty much impossible to log all of the traffic. In fact I doubt the network gear could handle it. At work with have a network with about 1500 nodes on it. We have a high end Cisco router and I was troubleshooting an issue and meant to log all connection info from one host, but mistaken did all hosts. It crashed the router and I had to power cycle it.

    Unless you are actively troubleshooting a problem the data is useless and filled with possible legal pitfalls. So it is best just not to keep it and generally no one does.