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Foxywolf · 8th Aug 2011, 03:24 PM

Just wondering, if someone likes Glee does that mean it is almost certain that they are gay friendly too?

As some of you guys know I have recently found out who my room mate is and am going through the nerve wracking process of figuring out if she is gay friendly and figuring out how/when I should come out to her.

So she mentioned that she liked glee and even suggested having a glee night. Do you think this means she is okay with gays?

**Mogget** · 8th Aug 2011, 03:30 PM

Bill O'Reilly and Michelle Bachmann like Glee. So either they're faking their homophobia or like Glee despite hating gays.

Kerze · 8th Aug 2011, 03:32 PM

not nessissarily; try dropping something like 'Yeah, a Glee night would be great, I think the whole Kurt/Blaine (I think those are their names :S don't watch it) thing is great' or '[THE LESBIAN ONE](don't watch it..) is my favorite character'

**Ethan** · 8th Aug 2011, 03:32 PM

I think there are too many different people who enjoy the show to get an accurate reading on a person just from them saying they like it.
You could segue into a question about the Santana/Brittney relationship, though, and maybe get more information on her from her reaction to that.

Super Trouper · 8th Aug 2011, 03:34 PM

Nope. My best friend is a homophobe, and she likes Glee.

Foxywolf · 8th Aug 2011, 03:38 PM

Oh geeze that's a bummer, you would think only more accepting people would like Glee...Well I did say that Kurt is my favorite character...

Well yes maybe i could use glee as ammo to figure out if she is accepting.

Kerze · 8th Aug 2011, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Foxywolf

Oh geeze that's a bummer, you would think only more accepting people would like Glee...Well I did say that Kurt is my favorite character...

Well yes maybe i could use glee as ammo to figure out if she is accepting.

From what I understand it covers a lot of gay related topics so i think it's a good thing to test the waters with

Katelynn · 8th Aug 2011, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam

Bill O'Reilly and Michelle Bachmann like Glee. So either they're faking their homophobia or like Glee despite hating gays.

I find this as just another example of these two's being hypocrites since there is a couple of gay charcaters on Glee, they seem to be just right out against gay people & yet they claim to like a show that has Kurt, a gay character, being open about who he is, plus there are Brittany & Santana's relationship as well. Yet another reason why folks like Bill & Michelle can't be taken seriously & have zero credibility, at least with me anyway...

As far as whether this would be a good barometer for figuring out if someone isn't homophobic, I wouldn't go just on if someone likes a TV show alone. After all, there are A LOT of people who enjoy Broadway & show tunes, but both aren't gay & pretty intolerant of people who are. I would rely on how you feel about your roommate & just spend time getting to know the person she is, then you should have a better idea about how she may react when you do come out. Plus, this would give her much more time to get to know you, so that when you do come out to her, you're her friend thatshe's known for a while that is gay & not that gay person she just started rooming with. Once you have your friendship with her on a personal level where you both care about how each other are doing, it should be a little easier for her to accept hearing what you want to tell her...

MyDecember · 8th Aug 2011, 04:29 PM

Have you seen the Corporation who owns it? You Theory is invalid.

Just Adam · 8th Aug 2011, 05:02 PM

IMO watching glee just shows people have bad taste in tv lol

I know that's controversial but I hate the show. I find it a walking stereotype and very annoying.

**Chip** · 8th Aug 2011, 06:28 PM

Hey! I resemble that remark! You're talking about one of my favorite shows!

XXReye · 8th Aug 2011, 08:00 PM

I do think that part of Glee is that it is almost satyrically stereotypical

I would also reccomend maybe saying something like "Oh, I hope Santana and Brittany get together!" or something of the sort. If she agrees, it shows she's at least open to the idea of gay relationships. You could even follow it up by saying, "It was good to see people like me represented in the media" or something like that.

It's funny, I once read this old advice book for gays...it suggested asking someone what they thought of the latest Will & Grace episode to see if they were also gay :P

Raeil · 8th Aug 2011, 11:45 PM

Short answer - Probably.

Long answer - Glee covers so many different things, so people like it for many different reasons. The show has focused on two same-sex relationships and currently has a total of 5 main non-straight characters, though. In my opinion, the fact that it looks at these characters sympathetically means that those who can say truthfully "I like Glee," must at least be somewhat accepting of non-straight individuals. I'm sure there are exceptions, but with how blatant the show has been about it's support of LGBT people it doesn't seem that likely.

Just Adam · 9th Aug 2011, 03:02 AM

I prefer beautiful people ( the uk version )

Just as stereotypical but it's trying to be and is far funnier.

I must be the only non straight person to not like glee haha

**Gerry** · 9th Aug 2011, 03:05 AM

As it's a TV show, anyone can like it. I think it's very popular among the gay community in general, but I guess anyone can enjoy it as well, whether or not they are homophobic or what not.

10th Aug 2011, 01:57 AM

sometimes people are ok with tv personas and have issues with them in real life. "omg i love kobe bryant" but some people may have issues against random black guys that aren't so "famous". same with gays. however, if she is into glee they have a lot of gay characters and story lines on there. if i were you, maybe bring up the subject of that episode with the girl that is in the closet or suspected of being in the closet..."hey did you see that one when everyone thought (insert name) was gay?" ..... and start it from there. usually if people are anti gay, they will get a quick bash in the moment the subject comes up. you can get a read for her thoughts on this topic and then decide based on that if you want to come out to her or not. it sounds as though she will be accepting. good luck.

midwestgirl89 · 10th Aug 2011, 02:12 AM

Hey, I think you should ask more questions to get a better reading. Like you could ask who their favorite character is or what they think of Kurt/Blaine and Santana/Brittany. You could ask what couples they ship to see if they're okay with the gay storylines.

Austin · 10th Aug 2011, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Adam

I prefer beautiful people ( the uk version )

Just as stereotypical but it's trying to be and is far funnier.

I must be the only non straight person to not like glee haha

I don't really like it.

But, I'm pretty sure people who watch glee are more likely to be accepting. If anything they are at least exposed to gay people, and, don't change the channel because of it. They are at least probably not hardcore homophobes.

Nightmaric · 10th Aug 2011, 11:09 PM

I have a homophobic friend who loves glee and finds every gaystoryline creepy and "doesn't agree with it" so no. But, it can be a spring board to find out ( I did and the person obviously didn't respond)

Just Passing · 10th Aug 2011, 11:31 PM

The chances are if you watch Glee, then you are at least somewhat open to gay issues. Even without the gay characters I recall, the show is pretty campy in itself.

Though I raise a new question. Is it possible to be gay and not like Glee? Because that's me.

8th Aug 2011, 03:24 PM	#1
Foxywolf EC Addict Full Member Gender: Female Orientation: 95% Lesbian Out Status: One foot out of the closet (Out to 10 people) Location: New York State, near Rochester Age: 20 Posts: 335 Join Date: Jan 2011	Does liking glee almost ensure someone is gay friendly? Just wondering, if someone likes Glee does that mean it is almost certain that they are gay friendly too? As some of you guys know I have recently found out who my room mate is and am going through the nerve wracking process of figuring out if she is gay friendly and figuring out how/when I should come out to her. So she mentioned that she liked glee and even suggested having a glee night. Do you think this means she is okay with gays? __________________ "Say what you mean and mean what you say because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."

8th Aug 2011, 03:30 PM	#2
Mogget May all beings be happy EC Advisor Gender: Male Orientation: Mostly homosexual, panromantic Out Status: Out to eveyone as gay, a few as panromantic Location: Alaska Age: 23 Posts: 3,107 Join Date: Mar 2010	Re: Does liking glee almost ensure someone is gay friendly? Bill O'Reilly and Michelle Bachmann like Glee. So either they're faking their homophobia or like Glee despite hating gays. __________________ So with a boundless mind may I cherish all living things, Suffusing love over the entire world - Above, below, and all around, without limit; So may I cultivate an infinite good will toward the whole world. - Metta Sutta

8th Aug 2011, 03:32 PM	#3
Kerze BEWARB! Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Friends, Sister Location: Surrey, England Age: 18 Posts: 1,888 Join Date: Aug 2010	Re: Does liking glee almost ensure someone is gay friendly? not nessissarily; try dropping something like 'Yeah, a Glee night would be great, I think the whole Kurt/Blaine (I think those are their names :S don't watch it) thing is great' or '[THE LESBIAN ONE](don't watch it..) is my favorite character' __________________ Be kind to me, or treat me mean I'll make the most of it, I'm an Extraordinary Machine Last edited by Kerze; 8th Aug 2011 at 03:34 PM..

8th Aug 2011, 03:32 PM	#4
Ethan Formerly known as Nazo EC Moderator Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: A few and then some Location: Michigan Age: 20 Posts: 2,722 Join Date: Dec 2010	Re: Does liking glee almost ensure someone is gay friendly? I think there are too many different people who enjoy the show to get an accurate reading on a person just from them saying they like it. You could segue into a question about the Santana/Brittney relationship, though, and maybe get more information on her from her reaction to that. __________________ "You cannot roll with me," said the Big O, "but perhaps you can roll by yourself." "By myself? A missing piece cannot roll by itself." "Have you ever tried?" asked the Big O. Last edited by Ethan; 8th Aug 2011 at 03:36 PM..

8th Aug 2011, 03:34 PM	#5
Super Trouper Aspiring Chef Full Member Gender: Female Orientation: Bisexual Out Status: Almost everyone except distant relatives. Location: Portugal Age: 19 Posts: 1,258 Join Date: Jul 2010	Re: Does liking glee almost ensure someone is gay friendly? Nope. My best friend is a homophobe, and she likes Glee. __________________ Everybody lies. Last edited by Super Trouper; 8th Aug 2011 at 03:38 PM..

8th Aug 2011, 03:38 PM	#6
Foxywolf EC Addict Full Member Gender: Female Orientation: 95% Lesbian Out Status: One foot out of the closet (Out to 10 people) Location: New York State, near Rochester Age: 20 Posts: 335 Join Date: Jan 2011	Re: Does liking glee almost ensure someone is gay friendly? Oh geeze that's a bummer, you would think only more accepting people would like Glee...Well I did say that Kurt is my favorite character... Well yes maybe i could use glee as ammo to figure out if she is accepting. __________________ "Say what you mean and mean what you say because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."

8th Aug 2011, 04:29 PM	#9
MyDecember I pause your thread! Regular Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: All but family Location: Florida Age: 24 Posts: 365 Join Date: Jan 2011	Re: Does liking glee almost ensure someone is gay friendly? Have you seen the Corporation who owns it? You Theory is invalid. __________________ This is my simple religion: There is no need for temples, there is no need for complicated philosophy. Our own brain, our own heart is the temple;the philosophy is loving kindness and compassion --The XIVth Dalai Lama

8th Aug 2011, 05:02 PM	#10
Just Adam <3 Oscar Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Pansexual Out Status: Anyone with an open mind Location: My AV room Age: 24 Posts: 6,079 Join Date: Mar 2009	Re: Does liking glee almost ensure someone is gay friendly? IMO watching glee just shows people have bad taste in tv lol I know that's controversial but I hate the show. I find it a walking stereotype and very annoying. __________________ Ninja Kick The Damn Rabbit !

8th Aug 2011, 06:28 PM	#11
Chip EC Advisor EC Admin Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: northern CA Posts: 8,621 Join Date: May 2008	Re: Does liking glee almost ensure someone is gay friendly? Hey! I resemble that remark! You're talking about one of my favorite shows!

8th Aug 2011, 08:00 PM	#12
XXReye Flighty Full Member Gender: Agender Orientation: Asexual, panromantic Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Ontario Posts: 77 Join Date: Jul 2011	Re: Does liking glee almost ensure someone is gay friendly? I do think that part of Glee is that it is almost satyrically stereotypical I would also reccomend maybe saying something like "Oh, I hope Santana and Brittany get together!" or something of the sort. If she agrees, it shows she's at least open to the idea of gay relationships. You could even follow it up by saying, "It was good to see people like me represented in the media" or something like that. It's funny, I once read this old advice book for gays...it suggested asking someone what they thought of the latest Will & Grace episode to see if they were also gay :P

8th Aug 2011, 11:45 PM	#13
Raeil EC Addict Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Missouri Age: 21 Posts: 420 Join Date: May 2011	Re: Does liking glee almost ensure someone is gay friendly? Short answer - Probably. Long answer - Glee covers so many different things, so people like it for many different reasons. The show has focused on two same-sex relationships and currently has a total of 5 main non-straight characters, though. In my opinion, the fact that it looks at these characters sympathetically means that those who can say truthfully "I like Glee," must at least be somewhat accepting of non-straight individuals. I'm sure there are exceptions, but with how blatant the show has been about it's support of LGBT people it doesn't seem that likely. __________________ ~Say my name, as every color illuminates! We are shining, and we will never be afraid again!~

9th Aug 2011, 03:02 AM	#14
Just Adam <3 Oscar Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Pansexual Out Status: Anyone with an open mind Location: My AV room Age: 24 Posts: 6,079 Join Date: Mar 2009	Re: Does liking glee almost ensure someone is gay friendly? I prefer beautiful people ( the uk version ) Just as stereotypical but it's trying to be and is far funnier. I must be the only non straight person to not like glee haha __________________ Ninja Kick The Damn Rabbit !

9th Aug 2011, 03:05 AM	#15
Gerry We're all a little mad! EC Moderator Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Some people Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Age: 25 Posts: 5,735 Join Date: Jan 2008	Re: Does liking glee almost ensure someone is gay friendly? As it's a TV show, anyone can like it. I think it's very popular among the gay community in general, but I guess anyone can enjoy it as well, whether or not they are homophobic or what not. __________________ "Everybody's journey is individual. If you fall in love with a boy, you fall in love with a boy. The fact that many Americans consider it a disease says more about them than it does about homosexuality".-James Baldwin

10th Aug 2011, 01:57 AM	#16
feelindown Guest Posts: n/a Tournaments Won: 15	Re: Does liking glee almost ensure someone is gay friendly? sometimes people are ok with tv personas and have issues with them in real life. "omg i love kobe bryant" but some people may have issues against random black guys that aren't so "famous". same with gays. however, if she is into glee they have a lot of gay characters and story lines on there. if i were you, maybe bring up the subject of that episode with the girl that is in the closet or suspected of being in the closet..."hey did you see that one when everyone thought (insert name) was gay?" ..... and start it from there. usually if people are anti gay, they will get a quick bash in the moment the subject comes up. you can get a read for her thoughts on this topic and then decide based on that if you want to come out to her or not. it sounds as though she will be accepting. good luck.

10th Aug 2011, 02:12 AM	#17
midwestgirl89 EC Addict Full Member Gender: Female Orientation: Gay Out Status: Some people Age: 24 Posts: 1,019 Join Date: Jul 2011	Re: Does liking glee almost ensure someone is gay friendly? Hey, I think you should ask more questions to get a better reading. Like you could ask who their favorite character is or what they think of Kurt/Blaine and Santana/Brittany. You could ask what couples they ship to see if they're okay with the gay storylines.

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Nightmaric Well Known Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Facebook "interested in", any who asks/in passing Location: Ohio Age: 17 Posts: 174 Join Date: Aug 2011	Re: Does liking glee almost ensure someone is gay friendly? I have a homophobic friend who loves glee and finds every gaystoryline creepy and "doesn't agree with it" so no. But, it can be a spring board to find out ( I did and the person obviously didn't respond)

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Just Passing EC Addict Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Almost there Location: West Midlands Age: 21 Posts: 604 Join Date: May 2011	Re: Does liking glee almost ensure someone is gay friendly? The chances are if you watch Glee, then you are at least somewhat open to gay issues. Even without the gay characters I recall, the show is pretty campy in itself. Though I raise a new question. Is it possible to be gay and not like Glee? Because that's me. __________________ Meh.