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getting aroused to the opposite sex, what does that mean?

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  1. needshelp

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    observations that i made towards myself around the opposite and same sexes yesterday.

    while i'm still trying to figure myself out and such. the mystery continues.

    okay, at my job yesterday, i ran into some girls that aroused me a bit. the first girl came in and she was cute. there were dirty thoughts that were coming into my head for a second or two then it stopped. then there was another girl that came after her that turned me on even though i was trying not to think like that about her. i didn't want to be with her but i guess you can say that i wanted to have sex with her. there was another girl that came in with her gay friend, who was alright looking, couldn't really see his face because he was wearing some huge shades. she was beautiful and i guess she had a body on her because i noticed that she had a nice ass and shape on her, i wouldn't mind dating her but at the same time, i just didn't feel a sexual attraction to her though. it would be great to. i somewhat felt a connection with her gay friend though. i think i would be able to hit it off with him more than her though. he seemed very friendly and nice as if he was implying he was sort of in to me. i felt like hitting on him but i didn't.

    then later on in the day, i found myself getting excited as in :icon_bigg this older man who had to be in his 40s came aroudn with a sleeveless shirt with muscles popping out. i could tell his chest was huge, he was wearing a shirt but his arms were crazy. the excitement i felt wasn't one that was going on in my pants but one where my heart almost flew out my mouth and i got real happy all of a sound like i wanted to say "yeah". i tried to keep myself under control because i was getting turned on by his arms and such. as he was standing around, i felt like i couldn't keep my eyes off the guy even though i didn't want to. i also know that this older woman was checking him out too. i found myself with my eyes focused on him despite trying to look elsewhere when i was trying hard to pay attention to something else. i guess i was attracted to him for his body. as for other guys, there really weren't even guys that were hot. there was a guy that eeriely looked like the teacher i had in my last semester that i was crushing over. i wasn't attracted to him though however i did get kind of nervous and creeped out around him because he eeriely looked like him and had the same characteristics. he was much shorter and i'm going to guess that that must be his brother because they are way too similar. i was thinking about asking him if he had a brother but then i was like "no, leave it alone". he's a cool guy anyway.

    what would you gives say about this? i know i made another thread where i was asking questions if i knew i was gay, bi or straight but this figuring out game is getting really annoying. what would you make out of this?
     
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    What would I say about this? Two things.

    1. You're horny.
    2. You're spending too much time analyzing and not enough time enjoying. :slight_smile:

    Lex
     
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    the reason why i'm doing this is because i get depressed thinking about this right here. i don't want to believe or acknowledge that i'm possibly gay or bisexual. this is extremely difficult to me. i somehow find it a little more less painful to say these things here since there's other people that are going through the same thing then i can say it to myself or my journal. this is painful and bad enough, i'm feeling under the weather about other things in my life besides this. so it's like i'm drowning in pain from my problems.
     
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    I agree with Lex.

    But if we're playing this analysing game, this is what I think: You're trying to force yourself to be attracted in women. Thoughts like: "hmm, yeah I think she has a great body", "I think I wouldn't mind sleeping with her" etc. don't mean that you're attracted to women. Girls are pretty. Being heterosexual is seen as socially normal. Stop it. There is no obligation to be attracted to the opposite sex. If you are, that's fine. But stop worrying about it. It's okay to be gay.

    And yeah, you were definitely attracted to the guy that walked into the office if you were checking him out like that. This means that you're not only possibly gay or bisexual - you are definitely gay or bisexual. That's what being attracted to the same sex means.

    You don't need a label though, the fact is that you are more or less homosexual. The next step is to learn to accept it. There is no way to find out whether you are bisexual before you accept that it's okay to be gay because until you can accept that you will try and convince yourself that you might still be interested in girls because they are pretty. But noticing that someone is pretty doesn't mean that you're attracted to them.
     
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    >>>the reason why i'm doing this is because i get depressed thinking about this right here. i don't want to believe or acknowledge that i'm possibly gay or bisexual. this is extremely difficult to me.

    Well, here's the thing.

    Your sexuality isn't supposed to be a clinical trial. It's supposed to be more like finding out your hat size. So you say "OK, this is what does it for me", and you can move on to actually finding hats (or dating partners) that work well with you. I'm well aware that it can be a long and confusing process for some, and it's not unheard of for people to get a piece of the puzzle long after they thought the puzzle was complete. ("I never liked Asian guys/overweight guys/guys-at-all until I met Kevin...and that confused me.") But a lot of people use the fact that "I'm still unsure" or "I don't think I have all the answers yet" to justify not making a move. And that's not how it's supposed to play out. It doesn't matter if you don't know what your "type" is, exactly. It should simply come down to a matter of "you and this other person". Do you like HIM/HER? Is s/he appealing to you, in a simple physical way, and in a "I'd like to get to know this person better" sort of way? Then feel free to make a move. No, you don't have to date (or try to date) absolutely everybody that piques your interest. But "I'm still not totally sure about everything" isn't really a good excuse for not making a move, either.

    And as far as not wanting to acknowledge you may be gay or bisexual...well, I'd say it's time to start. Because if you're 24, and still feeling the pull towards guys, it's doubtful that it's due to anything but the standard "you find (some) guys attractive" thing. Which usually goes by the term "gay" or "bisexual".

    I say all this not to be flip. But it sounds like you've put up a mental wall about being gay, and are thinking you might still be able to "logically deduce" your way out of it (perhaps if you find enough women attractive enough). And that doesn't solve the problem so much as delay it. If you're gay/bi - and signs are pointing that way - it's best to simply say "Cool - I'm gay/bi. Now what?" Because being gay is actually not that big a deal. Seriously. You might have issues in various parts of the world, and with various people you may come in contact with. But the advantage in coming out after the age of 20 is that you're in a lot more control in regards to who you associate with. You can simply phase out people in your life who aren't supportive if you need to. You can move if it's really an issue where you live. And you can get back towards living the kick-ass life you're supposed to be living.

    Lex
     
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    All that I've seen you say points to your being gay, or gay side of bi. You seem to be constantly looking for "But see, I was attracted to this one girl for 5 seconds in between looking at 1000000000 guys" moments so you can cling to being straight.

    You've heard it from enough people now, and I think you already know in your heart where you stand. You can keep trying to deny it, and keep trying to make yourself straight, or you can start accepting who you are.

    As Lex said, this isn't a clinical study. You know how you feel. You just keep trying to come up with rationalizations to reject how you feel. The sooner you just go with what you know inside, the sooner you'll be happy.
     
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    My experience as a bi guy: I see sixty people per day, usually it's five guys of those sixty that turn me on - the rest of the fifty five all girls. Other days (on rare occasions) the guys that turn me on outnumber the girls that do because by happenstance they're the ones around me that given day. Basically saying environment and who's around determines everything. Just... thinking those five guys per day are hot? I know or think my straight friends probably don't go through that - thus, I'm definitely bi or heteroflexible. Nothing wrong with that.
     
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    yes, i am in complete denial. even talking about this, i am in complete denial of my situation. i don't want to believe it. i don't want to accept the fact that i'm gay or bisexual. i don't. i don't. i don't. i am living in my own hell already. do i need to go through much worse? for real, the situation wouldn't be hard if i didn't have all those other things on my back that could possibly drown me into shit. yes, i want to live a kick ass life but is it worth losing everything though?

    :tears: i'm sorry but you have to realize that all my life i've been told that that's not okay. to top it off, my family's background as well as how i was raised, where i come from, etc, homosexuality was and still is frowned on. hell, if you're gay, you are automatically outcasted. on the chopping block. nobody messed with you. you're the lowest of the low. i learned that at an early age. being how i came up who i was, i didn't have much people on my side. now i'm at a point of my life where i have some stability going around even though it may not be perfect, i'm 100 percent happy with it. i rather pretend that this issue doesn't exists than to jump right into it and find myself all alone. it's not like i have a roof over my head, a career job, and am at a place where i can be free to be me.

    i most definitely wouldn't even dare come out of the closet to my family and to my friends. not at this point in my life. not even living in this neighborhood of mine. it would have been so much easier for me to do so in grade school or before i went to high school. i would have been able to do so there but not now.
     
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    >>>yes, i am in complete denial. even talking about this, i am in complete denial of my situation. i don't want to believe it. i don't want to accept the fact that i'm gay or bisexual. i don't. i don't. i don't. i am living in my own hell already. do i need to go through much worse? for real, the situation wouldn't be hard if i didn't have all those other things on my back that could possibly drown me into shit. yes, i want to live a kick ass life but is it worth losing everything though?

    Well, it sounds like it's been going this way.

    You've got it in your head that "gay=bad". Your family is homophobic, or you're in a small-thinking town. But whatever it is, once you started getting the data that "I like guys", you paired that up with "gay=bad" to equal "this is going to make my life even worse". So you tried to solve it by eliminating (or at least minimizing) the "I like guys" part. Because if you don't like guys, you're not gay, and you don't have to deal with the whole "gay=bad" bit.

    Thing is, as we've discussed in this thread, seems like you do like guys. And rather than try to create massive loopholes around the "I like guys" bit - where you find enough women attractive that maybe you can date one and marry one, and so you don't have to deal with the "I like guys" part, in order to avoid dealing with the "gay=bad" part...

    ...why not start revisiting the "gay=bad" part?

    Quick thumbnail sketch of the gargoyle's life. I'm 41, got a couple jobs I love. I have plenty of friends - straight and gay. I go to concerts, do a fair amount of traveling, and hold season tickets to a contact sport.

    And I'm gay, and partnered.
    And everybody knows this.
    My friends, my family, the local bands I go see a lot, the pro athletes.
    They know.
    And they don't fucking care.

    It's no big deal. Everybody seems to get that "some people are gay, and hey, Lex is one of those people". Big deal. And I realize there are places where being gay isn't going to work. Where you'd be a square peg in a round hole. But the best thing in that case isn't to try to conform to the round hole. It's to get the hell out of there, and find yourself a square one.

    I don't know your whole story. If I'm gleaning the right things from your posts, it's that you're still living with your parents, you may have a "barely-make-ends-meet" sort of job, and your family is homophobic. Sucks, but it happens. But that just means you'll need to start planning for the future. Not (just) on the job front, but on the personal front. It sounds like there's a lot of anti-gay programming that we're going to need to educate you out of. Your parents (and presumably your friends) can wait. It's most important that YOU believe that being gay is OK - not just for other people, but for you. And that you CAN live that kick-ass life as a gay man. Because you can.

    No time like the present, I guess. :slight_smile: If you'd like to discuss this openly, right here in the forums, I can ask you some questions and give you some pointers. If you'd rather do it privately, you can send me a Private Message by clicking on my name to the left there. But I think we can get you to a better spot. :slight_smile:

    Lex
     
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    Lex is right. The good part is... you aren't really in denial any more. Because to be in denial you have to deny, and I hear you saying I don't want to be this way now, more than "Nuh uh, I'm not gay." And that's a big change.

    I think I mentioned the stages of loss (in this case, the loss of your identity as a straight person), which are denial-anger-bargaining-grief-acceptance. The "I don't want this, it really sucks, my life will be miserable if I'm gay" thing is a manifestation of anger more than denial, and means you're starting to process the feelings.

    As Lex said, I think the bigger issue is your internalized homophobia, and your perception of how those around you will feel about it. As you work through the anger, the fear and homophobia you have will start to wane and you'll start to feel better about yourself. You don't need to tell your parents or anyone else unless and until you're ready to, and that means feeling good about yourself. So take that off the table for now if it's bothering you. It all takes time, and there's no rush.

    I think, a few months from now, you'll be really surprised at how much better you feel about yourself. :slight_smile:
     
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    I think you're just making things complicated. I mean I'm gay and already accepted it but I'm still being aroused to girls. Does that mean I'm really bisexual? Of course not. Don't make yourself confused by simple little things, there is no pure gay and pure straight in this world. We have imperfections inside us whether gay or straight. I mean you could even make your own sexual orientation if you don't fall to the LGBT terms. The important thing is just accept who you are and don't ever tell yourself "Maybe I'm bisexual or gay or confused or something" and don't ever make the LGBT terms as a single meaning. I mean if you think being gay is exclusive only to guys and bisexual is equal attraction to both sexes. Just create your own that makes you comfortable. Like you're gay but not exclusive or you're bisexual but prefer guys more just like that.
     
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    well, thanks to everyone for their input even though i'm still trying to understand a bit more about this. i had a dream last night where i was driving around and i happened to be at this porn studio where they had some website of straight porn. i don't remember if i got turned on or not but all i know is that i find myself awaking up annoyed because i was thinking to myself "if i'm gay, why the hell am i having dreams of straight porn, naked women and etc?" is this also a sign that i'm still in denial or whatever?
     
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    :kiss:it may be different reasons
    1 may be that you need sexual attention
    2 you are slowly becoming a more deeper version of being bi
    3 after you saw the first girl you became mentually horny

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    you may be bisexual