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Just argue we are made in gods image correct? Then that means god is also gay. If he gave us free will, why does he give us free will over sexuality? If it such a sin why would he let us choose it? (Not saying it's a choice, an argument for when they say it's a choice)

Judge not lest ye be judged.

... Just to add im an athiest so I think the whole thing is bullshit anyway but there you go.

 

The "if it's such a sin why would he let us choose it" it a bad argument; any christian worth their crucifix will tell you free will is what makes faith matter. It's the resistance against temptation that allows for the ability to choose faith and god, not the presence of temptation that proves it's okay. This, of course, totally precludes the fact that god loves queers, because we are awesome and wonderful, and their argument uses religion to excuse bigotry. and he DID make us in his image, which is a TOTALLY valid argument. (if you're into that sort of thing. i'm not religious at all.)

so i guess don't do anything that could put you in danger, especially since you do have to stay at the school for a while, but you don't have to take that stuff laying down. just remember there's a ton of people who matter that love you, and these turds don't matter.

 

I don't think anyone's ever convinced a homophobe that homosexuality was okay solely by quoting the Bible. Not because you can't make a case for the morality of homosexuality from the Bible, you can, but because opposition to homosexuality isn't, for most people, based on the Bible to begin with, the Bible just justifies their pre-existing position. What convinces homophobes that homosexuality is okay is meeting LGBT people and realizing that we're human. The number one predictor of someone being a straight ally is them personally knowing an LGBT person.

Once this happens, there is a crisis of faith. The person is conflicted, they believe the Bible, and they believe the Bible is anti-gay, but they know that can't be right, since they recognize that homosexuality isn't a sin. That's when you can start making the biblical argument in favor of homosexuality.

 

Wow, this guy, in addition to being a terrible person for having said openly that queer people should die, doesn't even know his own holy text that well. He should have just flipped to Leviticus 18:22.

Yes. This is the major thing. I am reminded of the time a gay teen came out to his very homophobic mother by writing a response to "I'm Christian Unless You're Gay." At first, the mother was angry at the teacher and she didn't want him to write the response at all. She ended up pissing off her son so much that he effectively ran away from home for the evening until he finished writing the thing. Then after she read it, she was devastated at the suffering she caused her son, and she underwent a radical transformation.

I think the #1 test of humanity is whether or not you really "hate" a person who comes from a group that you claim to "hate" in the abstract. Some people choose to turn in their humanity card in these moments. Many of us fortunately don't. Like that kid's mother.

And hopefully, like your classmates. I am really really sorry they said such hurtful things. And I wouldn't fault you for a second if you didn't want to come out to anyone. But if you found the will to do it, it might cause a few radical transformations. (*hug*)

 

Well, that's not exactly what that verse means.

I'm sorry that happened to you. Christians very rarely actually exemplify Christ and his teachings.

 

Well not exactly everything in the bible is believable to christians.

Honestly, while I'm an athiest I don't discern the ideology of a deity, only in todays society. I mean the bible says you are to stone to death any woman who is getting married and not a virgin, I'm also pretty sure it says something about the ability to possess 2 wives. The book is just being used as a way to keep up the bigotry and discrimination.